poll Xtina vs. Avril… Bigger career?

[Robburro]

3 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Weekly charts

 

Chart (2022)	Peak position
Argentina Latino (Monitor Latino)[50]	19
Chile Pop (Monitor Latino)[51]	10
Costa Rica Latino (Monitor Latino)[52]	18
Dominican Republic Pop (Monitor Latino)[53]	7
Ecuador Pop (Monitor Latino)[54]	16
El Salvador (Monitor Latino)[38]	6
El Salvador Pop (Monitor Latino)[55]	5
Germany (Official German Charts)[56]	80
Guatemala (Monitor Latino)[31]	3
Guatemala Pop (Monitor Latino)[32]	1
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[57]	38
Hungary (Single Top 40)[42]	17
Latin America (Monitor Latino)[29]	6
Latin America (Latino) (Monitor Latino)[30]	6
Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[58]	22
Mexico Espanol Airplay (Billboard)[59]	8
Mexico Pop (Monitor Latino)[60]	13
Nicaragua Pop (Monitor Latino)[61]	14
Panama (Monitor Latino)[36]	6
Panama (PRODUCE)[37]	7
Panama Pop (Monitor Latino)[62]	4
Panama Urbano (Monitor Latino)[63]	6
Peru (Monitor Latino)[39]	9
Peru Pop (Monitor Latino)[64]	4
Peru Urbano (Monitor Latino)[65]	5
Puerto Rico (Monitor Latino)[33]	6
Puerto Rico Pop (Monitor Latino)[34]	1
Puerto Rico Urbano (Monitor Latino)[35]	7
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[43]	72
Suriname (Nationale Top 40)[66]	21
Venezuela Pop (Monitor Latino)[67]	9
Venezuela Urbano (Monitor Latino)[68]	12
US Hot Latin Songs (Billboard)[24]	24
US Latin Airplay (Billboard)[25]	12
US Latin Pop Airplay (Billboard)[26]	3
US Latin Rhythm Airplay (Billboard)[27]	7

Year-end charts

 

Chart (2022)	Position
US Latin Rhythm Airplay (Billboard)[78]	45
US Latin Pop Airplay (Billboard)[77]	24
Puerto Rico Pop (Monitor Latino)[76]	20
Puerto Rico (Monitor Latino)[75]	78
Paraguay Pop (Monitor Latino)[74]	77
Panama (Monitor Latino)[73]	34
Guatemala (Monitor Latino)[40]	20
El Salvador Pop (Monitor Latino)[72]	83
Dominican Republic (Monitor Latino)[41]	24
Chile Pop (Monitor Latino)[71]	38
Bolivia (Monitor Latino)[70]	58
Argentina (Monitor Latino)[69]	67

cute I guess, maybe it can compare to Love When You Hate Me or I'm a Mess numbers

[Majka Jeżowska]

1 minute ago, Robburro said:

cute I guess, maybe it can compare to Love When You Hate Me or I'm a Mess numbers

Not really

 

Love When You Hate Me

Chart (2022)	Peak position
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[17]	76
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[18]	40
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[19]	41
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[20]	9
UK Singles Downloads (OCC)[21]	40
UK Singles Sales (OCC)[22]	40
US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[23]	18
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[24]	15
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[25]	25

 

 

Bite Me

 

Chart (2021–2022)	Peak position
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[55]	63
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[56]	46
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[57]	46
Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[58]	25
Global 200 (Billboard)[59]	133
Hungary (Single Top 40)[60]	25
Ireland (IRMA)[61]	87
Japan Download Songs (Billboard Japan)[62]	56
Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan)[63]	18
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[64]	19
UK Singles (OCC)[65]	61
US Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles (Billboard)[66]	20
US Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[67]	22
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[68]	13

 

I'm a Mess

Chart (2022–2023)	Peak position
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[14]	44
Canada Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[15]	34
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[16]	45
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[17]	27
Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[18]	38
Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan)[19]	12
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[20]	39
UK Singles Downloads (OCC)[21]	25
UK Singles Sales (OCC)[22]	28
US Adult Contemporary (Billboard)[23]	22
US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[10]	12
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[24]	28
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[25]	24

[ProudLBS]

Just now, Intuition said:

Definitely not in the States. Christina has always been a bigger celebrity.

it might come as a shock to you, but the US is not the only country in the world.

 

1 minute ago, Intuition said:

Avril would not be able to negotiate even half the salary that X had while on The Voice.

why would I want my fave glued to a chair? like 

 

1 minute ago, Intuition said:

Avril also didn't have a lot of appeal for older generations and is generally seen as having last prestige. 

and yet she still sold more and is more remembered, ain't it funny?

 

1 minute ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Even a stupid recognizable outfit? Xtina>>>>Avril

60m views (and there are several videos of this type on tiktok with +3m likes)

TikTok views, I'm HOLLERING  as if Avril doesn't perform better on that platform

 

as if Avril doesn't have PLENTY of recognizable outfits

 

 

 

 

even the highlights  

 

[Majka Jeżowska]

2 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

it might come as a shock to you, but the US is not the only country in the world.

 

why would I want my fave glued to a chair? like 

 

and yet she still sold more and is more remembered, ain't it funny?

 

TikTok views, I'm HOLLERING  as if Avril doesn't perform better on that platform

 

as if Avril doesn't have PLENTY of recognizable outfits

 

 

 

 

even the highlights  

 

LMAOOOO 

[Intuition]

2 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

it might come as a shock to you, but the US is not the only country in the world.

 

why would I want my fave glued to a chair? like 

 

and yet she still sold more and is more remembered, ain't it funny?

 

 

 

 

It just happens to be the #1 Music Market in the world. 

And I mean she's been an opening act for the Jonas Brothers and Backstreet Boys.

I'd say that's a wee bit more embarrassing than being a judge on a talent competition.

[Rev8]

Not even 1 page and they threw in the Moves Like Jaggers/Say Something card

 

 

 

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, lestat111 said:

The one who has more number 1s and grammys. Also, this thread is like heaven for Britney Spears fans, they can hate in here all they want, cuz not much is happening with instagram circle dancer.

A fighter is to talk? When yall are in Every Britney thread hating?

 

 

 

 

 

OT: 1 Avril fan proves time and time again that Avril is the bigger and more remembered in 2023

3 Fighters are fighting her/him mess!

[Power love]

50 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

Xtina is forgotten

 

Sure. So forgotten her songs continue to be sampled. Btw there is more than just theses two! 

[Power love]

37 minutes ago, Robburro said:

Let Go outsold every Xtina album sis

Let go has also outsold every Pink & Beyonce solo album as well. It doesn’t mean anything .  She never seen them sales again.

 

33 minutes ago, Robburro said:

so can you tell us the last time Xtina entered any chart, please? 

In 2022 when she released her a acclaimed ,Grammy winning album Aguilera.

 

Pa Mis Muchachas & Santo both entered the Latin charts & both certified platinum babe 

 

Any other dumb questions?

Edited April 16, 2023 by Power love

[Majka Jeżowska]

13 minutes ago, Intuition said:

It just happens to be the #1 Music Market in the world. 

And I mean she's been an opening act for the Jonas Brothers and Backstreet Boys.

I'd say that's a wee bit more embarrassing than being a judge on a talent competition.

Exactly

 

The Voice (20m cash per season/the seasons where Christina judged the contestants had the highest viewership), including bonuses: Moves Like Jagger (diamond) and Just a Fool (platinum) vs opening act 

 

 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Majka Jeżowska

[Power love]

11 minutes ago, Rev8 said:

Not even 1 page and they threw in the Moves Like Jaggers/Say Something card

I know you’re not talking. The audacity.! 
 

The strange notion Xtina can’t use her features (WHERE SHES LEAD) yet other delusional fan bases can use theirs. 
 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Power love

[Rev8]

5 minutes ago, Power love said:

I know you’re not talking. The audacity.! 
 

The strange notion Xtina can’t use her features (WHERE SHES LEAD) yet other delusional fan bases can use theirs. 
 

 

I know you are not Replying of all users here too

 

 

The strange notion where u can only use features to fight arguments - in the last 10 years

It was cute in 2015, but now? Lol

[Power love]

7 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Exactly

 

The Voice (20m cash per season/the seasons where Christina judged the contestants had the highest viewership), including bonuses: Moves Like Jagger (diamond) and Just a Fool (platinum) vs opening act 

 

 

 

Christina also had a Vegas residency. She continues getting legacy awards. She got her star on the Hollywood Hall of Fame a decade ago whole Avril is just getting it. 
 

Xtina Golden Globe nominee. lol 

[Xtripped]

Both are 00s icons with big impact but Xtina lows> Avril lows. I mean she's opening for Machine Gun Kelly.

[Power love]

1 minute ago, Rev8 said:

The strange notion where u can only use features to fight arguments

Hey Everyone, this is what you call bad reading comprehension. 
 

If you’re reading this entire thread. You will read & see many examples outside features on why Christina has the bigger career. 
 

So it isn’t only use features. 
 

[ProudLBS]

6 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Not really

Bite Me - 85,954,175
Love It When You Hate Me - 39,284,264

Bois Lie - 26,902,924
Santo - 23,617,472

I'm a Mess - 19,894,427 (5 months old)

 

1 minute ago, Power love said:

Let go has also outsold every Pink & Beyonce album as well. It doesn’t mean anything .  She never seen them sales again.

as if Under My Skin and The Best Damn Thing aren't at ~10M units WW each and didn't sell more than anything Xtina put out after Stripped 

 

Xtina has not once sold more albums than Avril since Avril debuted.

 

1 minute ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

LMAOOOO 

how many do you want? 

 

1.2M views

 

 

1.2M views

 

 

description: "Female Emo Haircut -- Avril Lavigne"

 

1 minute ago, Intuition said:

It just happens to be the #1 Music Market in the world. 

And? Avril still sold more studio albums, cause unlike Xtina she was global from day one and didn't rely as much on the US market.

 

Avril's debut is eligible for Diamond in 4 different continents, so what if she performs a bit worse in the US 

 

1 minute ago, Power love said:

She got her star on the Hollywood Hall of Fame a decade ago whole Avril is just getting it. 

You pay to get a star on the Walk of Fame  Avril saved it for a special occasion

[Majka Jeżowska]

4 minutes ago, Power love said:

Christina also had a Vegas residency. She continues getting legacy awards. She got her star on the Hollywood Hall of Fame a decade ago whole Avril is just getting it. 
 

Xtina Golden Globe nominee. lol 

Golden Globe nomination

31 Grammy nominations

26 Billboard nominations

 

Well 

[Power love]

2 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

as if Under My Skin and The Best Damn Thing aren't at ~10M units WW each

I see your strategy.

 

That user said LET GO outsold every Xtina album. She also outsold many female artists album that are 10 times bigger than her & will always be. 
 

so ultimately, it doesn’t mean anything. She was just more popular during that era but doesn’t have the bigger career which is what this thread is about.
 

But she never saw let go numbers AGAIN! That’s a fact! 
 

You bringing in other album sales to distract from what I said doesn’t change a thing. 

[Intuition]

I mean you can always tell whose fave has had a lackluster career when they go after the lowest common denominator (Christina Aguilera).

It's especially strange when I don't think X has even acknowledged A's existence (I could be wrong).

It's never those who Avril directly competed with like P!nk or Kelly Clarkson or even who she was compared to in the media more (Britney Spears) or even the girls that debuted after, because let's be honest, everyone has surpassed her (even Ariana and Miley)

Just my additional two cents

[Majka Jeżowska]

3 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Bite Me - 85,954,175
Love It When You Hate Me - 39,284,264

Bois Lie - 26,902,924
Santo - 23,617,472

I'm a Mess - 19,894,427 (5 months old)

 

as if Under My Skin and The Best Damn Thing aren't at ~10M units WW each and didn't sell more than anything Xtina put out after Stripped 

 

Xtina has not once sold more albums than Avril since Avril debuted.

 

how many do you want? 

 

1.2M views

 

 

1.2M views

 

 

description: "Female Emo Haircut -- Avril Lavigne"

 

And? Avril still sold more studio albums, cause unlike Xtina she was global from day one and didn't rely as much on the US market.

 

Avril's debut is eligible for Diamond in 4 different continents, so what if she performs a bit worse in the US 

 

You pay to get a star on the Walk of Fame  Avril saved it for a special occasion

Will you still bring up Spotify*? Aguilera era did better than Love Sux, for example, on YouTube.

*it's not even the biggest streaming platform in the US.

 

It's actually funny if Moves Like Jagger was a flop everyone would be showing the stats of this song here right now, but it was a SMASH HIT and suddenly it's not a Christina song. 

 

Xtina still sold more albums and singles, cause unlike Avril she was global from day one and didn't rely as much on the US market. 

 

1,2m views vs 60m views 

[Cry]

39 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Not really

 

Love When You Hate Me

Chart (2022)	Peak position
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[17]	76
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[18]	40
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[19]	41
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[20]	9
UK Singles Downloads (OCC)[21]	40
UK Singles Sales (OCC)[22]	40
US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[23]	18
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[24]	15
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[25]	25

 

 

Bite Me

 

Chart (2021–2022)	Peak position
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[55]	63
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[56]	46
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[57]	46
Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[58]	25
Global 200 (Billboard)[59]	133
Hungary (Single Top 40)[60]	25
Ireland (IRMA)[61]	87
Japan Download Songs (Billboard Japan)[62]	56
Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan)[63]	18
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[64]	19
UK Singles (OCC)[65]	61
US Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles (Billboard)[66]	20
US Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[67]	22
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[68]	13

 

I'm a Mess

Chart (2022–2023)	Peak position
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[14]	44
Canada Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[15]	34
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[16]	45
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[17]	27
Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[18]	38
Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan)[19]	12
New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)[20]	39
UK Singles Downloads (OCC)[21]	25
UK Singles Sales (OCC)[22]	28
US Adult Contemporary (Billboard)[23]	22
US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[10]	12
US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[24]	28
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[25]	24

Well, unlike that other Christina Aguilera song chart peaks that was posted before, these 3 managed to chart in key markets such as US, UK and Japan, which actually require sales and streams to chart, while the other one charted in more countries that barely require any sales or streams / are more based on radio points in order to chart.  

[KCFan2014]

36 minutes ago, Intuition said:

It just happens to be the #1 Music Market in the world. 

And I mean she's been an opening act for the Jonas Brothers and Backstreet Boys.

I'd say that's a wee bit more embarrassing than being a judge on a talent competition.

Don't forget MGK

[Majka Jeżowska]

4 minutes ago, Cry said:

Well, unlike that other Christina Aguilera song chart peaks that was posted before, these 3 managed to chart in key markets such as US, UK and Japan, which actually require sales and streams to chart, while the other one charted in more countries that barely require any sales or streams / are more based on radio points in order to chart.  

???

 

Where did it supposedly debut in the US and Japan? I do not see

You mean US sales charts? Pls, Santo and Pa Mis Muchachas debuted there too.

 

Pa Mis Muchachas

Weekly charts

 

Chart (2021–2022)	Peak position
Argentina (Argentina Hot 100)[52]	83
Bolivia (Monitor Latino)[53]	17
Chile (Monitor Latino)[54]	8
Dominican Republic (Monitor Latino)[55]	7
Ecuador (Monitor Latino)[56]	17
El Salvador (Monitor Latino)[57]	6
Germany Download (Official German Charts)[58]	76
Guatemala (Monitor Latino)[59]	9
Hungary (Single Top 40)[60]	24
Mexico (Monitor Latino)[61]	16
Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[62]	11
Mexico Espanol Airplay (Billboard)[63]	8
Panama (Monitor Latino)[64]	9
Panama (PRODUCE)[65]	10
Peru (Monitor Latino)[66]	8
Puerto Rico (Monitor Latino)[67]	9
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[68]	68
Spain Digital Songs (Billboard)[69]	7
Suriname (Nationale Top 40)[70]	4
Venezuela (Monitor Latino)[71]	16
US Hot Latin Songs (Billboard)[72]	37
US Latin Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[73]	3
US Latin Pop Airplay (Billboard)[74]	18

 

Year-end charts

Chart (2022)	Position
Chile Pop (Monitor Latino)[75]	68
Dominican Republic Pop (Monitor Latino)[76]	43
Panama (Monitor Latino)[77]	48
Puerto Rico Pop (Monitor Latino)[78]	86
Venezuela Pop (Monitor Latino)[79]	61

Edited April 16, 2023 by Majka Jeżowska

[KCFan2014]

9 minutes ago, Intuition said:

I mean you can always tell whose fave has had a lackluster career when they go after the lowest common denominator (Christina Aguilera).

It's especially strange when I don't think X has even acknowledged A's existence (I could be wrong).

It's never those who Avril directly competed with like P!nk or Kelly Clarkson or even who she was compared to in the media more (Britney Spears) or even the girls that debuted after, because let's be honest, everyone has surpassed her (even Ariana and Miley)

Just my additional two cents

The only thing her fans use is streams when they aren't even impressive lmao and get her no where. Imagine trying to brag about streams that can't even get you to break the BB Top 100  They have nothing else to talk about and it's embarrassing lmao

[Majka Jeżowska]

10 minutes ago, Intuition said:

It's especially strange when I don't think X has even acknowledged A's existence (I could be wrong).

Of course Xtina doesn't know her. Why would she care about the person who (even though she didn't know her) started attacking her? Avril 'I'm not like other girls' persona was pathetic 

 

 

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

Love these threads when they come, the girls really get riled up in here