poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[Norte]

Taylor easily 

[Josh]

8 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Yeah, i've always felt that Britney is very much a nostalgia act that gets overhyped by ATRL for some reason. Yeah she had a big peak, no doubt about that, but nobody in the GP actually remembers her first two albums outside of the big singles, they aged pretty poorly.

Um Toxic is a GP fan favorite and everyone knows "It's Britney *****" 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Josh

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

Um Toxic is a GP fan favorite.

Toxic is a classic for sure but i was talking about Britney's first two albums, which were her commercial peak.

[Proseductice]

10 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Yeah, i've always felt that Britney is very much a nostalgia act that gets overhyped by ATRL for some reason. Yeah she had a big peak, no doubt about that, but nobody in the GP actually remembers her first two albums outside of the big singles, they aged pretty poorly.

It's not that she gets overhyped on this forum for unknown reasons. Even considering she's a nostalgia act, every artist eventually becomes a figure of their time. That said, most fade into oblivion, while others become what y'all call nostalgia acts. Only singers or performers that made a significant impact during their run are remembered as such. She made a mark in history that people remember and talk about consistently, which is what every artist hopes and dreams for in their careers, but only few achieve. 

 

Someone will likely quote this to scream about numbers in streams or sales, so it's not worth any further argument. But if you get it, you get it. 

 

Taylor has been fortunate to have a long and successful career. That can be celebrated without dragging other female artists down with insults like "tabloid fodder". Same goes to those saying Taylor is only relevant because of her relationships. Both statements are untrue and misogynistic, because they've done more memorable things in music.

[Into The Void]

Britney was huge in her prime more so than people realize. Technically yes Taylor has a bigger career anyone can see that. In terms of impact I think Britney takes the cake. But Swifties can never accept any other woman surpassing her in any sort of way.

[Arrows]

People here acting as if Taylor is completely N/A in tabloids and pop culture when her persona and private life is arguably the most discussed among any celebrity in the past decade 

[Rev8]

1 hour ago, Enrique523 said:

...because i wanted to see ATRL's opinion? 

Yes, you definitely haven't seen what this place thinks of Britney

and how much Taylor loses in polls about success

 

[MingYouToo]

Taylor is literally bigger than any pop female not named Madonna

[Rihannito]

3 hours ago, Love Again said:

Wasn’t always the case though, i’ve been browsing ATRL Classic and there were much more fun threads where it wasn’t all about the numbers. The Swifties that joined this site after 2019 have infested it with data analysis threads. The most boring kind of threads

I have said this multiple times over here and they all insisted that most of these swifties joined ATRL ages ago and that i was speaking non sense.

 

Impact is a very important criteria that should be taken into consideration when measuring an artist’s career.

 

 

 

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, Rihannito said:

I have said this multiple times over here and they all insisted that most of these swifties joined ATRL ages ago and that i was speaking non sense.

 

Impact is a very important criteria that should be taken into consideration when measuring an artist’s career.

 

 

 

the post-Lover era Swifties are the most annoying species of stans

[Rihannito]

Britney’s career is still unmatched and her pure album sales are still bigger than Taylor’s. Taylor has the upper hand now with streaming.

 

People also forget to mention that Taylor is America’s sweetheart and is well preceived there whereas Britney was regarded as a ***** for most of her career and still moved those units which is remarkable on its own, Taylor had the media and gp by her side since the Kanye drama, she had some down moments but could easily ovecome them.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Rihannito

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, Rihannito said:

Britney’s career is still unmatched and her pure album sales are still bigger than Taylor’s. Taylor has the upper hand now with streaming.

 

People also forget to mention that Taylor is America’s sweetheart and is well preceived there whereas Britney was regarded as a ***** for most of her career and still moved those units which is remarkable on its own, Taylor had the media and gp by her side since the Kanye drama, she had some down moments but could easily ovecome them.

Why do you think the GP are easier on Taylor Swift and her breakups than they were with Britney and Justin's break up? 

[Rihannito]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Why do you think the GP are easier on Taylor Swift and her breakups than they were with Britney and Justin's break up? 

 Britney’s break-ups played a big part on her downfall while Taylor’s were used as tools to extend her career and feed her America’/ sweetheart/victim persona.

[Power love]

[SharonStone]

Britney stans in this thread, while posting off topic graphics of Gaga's declining sales: "sales don't matter!!11"

Taylor wins in every single metric. Whatever "impact," Britney had on pop, it was negative.

As for people saying the the c-ship hurt her career, this was the state of her career BEFORE the c-ship:

https://t.co/tHopIdXDCl

[Into The Void]

I'm not entirely sure how people are saying Britney's career ended in 2004 when she released Gimme More in 2006, followed by Circus the album with hit singles Womanizer, Circus and then 3 and continuing success with Til The World Ends and Hold It Against Me.  Makes u wonder

[R. Ramirez]

1 hour ago, Blackout2006 said:

 

No MPG has, is, or will ever have a trajectory or decline as tragic as this. You can take your rubbish elsewhere

 

Gaga's career NEVER, EVER hit the skids like Britney's. Last year she was just named the Top Female Touring Act. Your fav is IRRELEVANT as HELL.

 

A graphic from a blog made by a fan who cannot afford an ad-free interface is not credible. Even with that, it continues to prove my point: 

 

2016 releases:

 

Joanne - 3,384,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 49 weeks on charts, platinum)

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BARRIER

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Glory - 1,072,000 sales worldwide (#3 album, 8 weeks on charts, not even gold...)

 

2013 releases:

 

ARTPOP - 4,733,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 29 weeks on chart, platinum)

===============

BARRIER

===============

Britney Jean - 1,573,000 sales worldwide album (#4 album, 11 weeks on chart, barely gold)

 

Bonus 2022 singles on Spotify:

 

Bloody Mary - 300M

Hold Me Closer - 235M

 

[brazil]

1 hour ago, Enrique523 said:

Yeah, i've always felt that Britney is very much a nostalgia act that gets overhyped by ATRL for some reason. Yeah she had a big peak, no doubt about that, but nobody in the GP actually remembers her first two albums outside of the big singles, they aged pretty poorly.

Nobody in the GP remember Taylor's first albums, including the singles. So what's your point 

[prézli]

45 minutes ago, Rihannito said:

Britney’s career is still unmatched and her pure album sales are still bigger than Taylor’s. Taylor has the upper hand now with streaming.

 

People also forget to mention that Taylor is America’s sweetheart and is well preceived there whereas Britney was regarded as a ***** for most of her career and still moved those units which is remarkable on its own, Taylor had the media and gp by her side since the Kanye drama, she had some down moments but could easily ovecome them.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brazil]

29 minutes ago, Insanity said:

I'm not entirely sure how people are saying Britney's career ended in 2004 when she released Gimme More in 2006, followed by Circus the album with hit singles Womanizer, Circus and then 3 and continuing success with Til The World Ends and Hold It Against Me.  Makes u wonder

Lunacy, especially coming from swifities considering their fav have no actual classic

Edited April 16, 2023 by brazil

[Axelios]

2 minutes ago, brazil said:

Nobody in the GP remember Taylor's first albums, including the singles. So what's your point 

The do in the US. Our Song is a classic country song

[Norte]

3, TTWE and HIAM success? 

[Josh]

5 minutes ago, Axelios said:

The do in the US. Our Song is a classic country song

only in the US though no one outside of America cares about country music

[Axelios]

Just now, Josh said:

only in the US though no one outside of America cares about country music

Fearless is Taylor's second album and it's pretty remembered globally especially Love Story (a classic in Asia) and YBWM. Then you have Enchanted from Speak Now.

[ReH2o]

Lol miss Taylor