poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[Cloröx]

People who voted Britney are completely disrespecting her knowing that the obvious is Taylor 

[Power love]

[Cap87]

Britney

 

Taylor boring, bland, stale and tired

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Cap87 said:

Britney

 

Taylor boring, bland, stale and tired

[dreampop]

On 4/16/2023 at 6:32 AM, Blackout2006 said:

Donna Summer does not have some of the most impressive stats

Taylor nor Britney have had 12 consecutive top 10 singles like Miss Donna 

 

OT: Taylor 

[Into The Void]

9 hours ago, Cloröx said:

People who voted Britney are completely disrespecting her knowing that the obvious is Taylor 

People like to play play play play play

 

It's not that serious

[Monkey_Juice]

Toxic > Taylor Swift 

[The Music Industry]

54 minutes ago, Monkey_Juice said:

Toxic > Taylor Swift 

Me when I don't answer a question logically and factually and instead resort to my personal feelings and emotions 

 

[toxicgenie]

Britney. Taylor has the biggest fanbase tho, so she will always be successful in streaming. 

[Sazare]

Britney, definitely. taylor is too local.

[Trent W]

It’s Taylor, Taylor has passed everyone in hard numbers.

 

But Britney would’ve been bigger without all her personal issues.

 

Britney still has more impact to this day, and she will probably be more remembered in the long run.

[Sazare]

On 4/16/2023 at 7:01 AM, wastedpotential said:

This is not true in the slightest. In 2022/2023, the biggest 'clicks and views' moments Taylor has had were when she gave the commencement address at NYU, when she was rumoured to headline the Super Bowl, when she released Midnights, when she broke Ticketmaster, when she kicked off the Eras Tour, and then when she broke up with her boyfriend. It's disingenuous to claim that all of these notable events were ignored in favour of people spending that entire time discussing her seemingly healthy 6 year old relationship, which again, the majority of people did not even know she was in 

Don’t forget when taylor was the biggest emitter of private jet carbon emissions; that was bigger than all those events outside of swiftie twitter

[Axelios]

19 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Britney. Taylor has the biggest fanbase tho, so she will always be successful in streaming. 

Streaming is the least fanbase driven metric of success.

[Intuition]

41 minutes ago, Trent W said:

It’s Taylor, Taylor has passed everyone in hard numbers.

 

But Britney would’ve been bigger without all her personal issues.

 

Britney still has more impact to this day, and she will probably be more remembered in the long run.

Her career was already declining before anyone knew of her personal issues and how would she be more remembered in the future when she's not even close to as memorable as Taylor today?

[toxicgenie]

38 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Streaming is the least fanbase driven metric of success.

Fanbases now can single handedly make someone debut in the top 3 with streaming. For example: see Mealnie Martinez. Who the GP doesn't know but her dedicated fanbase streams her 24/7 + buys music and so she charted higher than Miley etc. Now Taylor's fanbase is 1,000x bigger.

Edited April 18, 2023 by toxicgenie

[Axelios]

Just now, toxicgenie said:

Fanbases now can single handedly make someone debut in the top 3 with streaming. For example: see Mealnie Martinez. Who the GP doesn't know but her dedicate fanbase streams her 24/7 + buys music and her her chart higher than Miley etc. Now Taylor's fanbase is 1,000x bigger.

Songs can easily have higher debuts because the charts are less radio driven than before but that's besides the point. You can look at Kpop acts, they have sizable fanbases in the west which allow them to have high sales but their streaming numbers are very mediocre.

[Badgalbriel]

4 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Fanbases now can single handedly make someone debut in the top 3 with streaming. For example: see Mealnie Martinez. Who the GP doesn't know but her dedicated fanbase streams her 24/7 + buys music and so she charted higher than Miley etc. Now Taylor's fanbase is 1,000x bigger.

Melanie went top 3 because of pure sales

[The Music Industry]

5 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Fanbases now can single handedly make someone debut in the top 3 with streaming. For example: see Mealnie Martinez. Who the GP doesn't know but her dedicated fanbase streams her 24/7 + buys music and so she charted higher than Miley etc. Now Taylor's fanbase is 1,000x bigger.

Taylor has more unique listeners than any female artist EVER had on streaming platforms like Spotify. It's totally disingenuous to suggest her success is only fanbase-driven. She is factually the most relevant pop girl in the world right now, and has been for a while. Like...

[dumbsparce]

Taylor has had the bigger career but lacks the iconography of Britney. Idk how impressive a spreadsheet of Taylor's numbers will look when compared to a collage of Britney's biggest moments.

Edited April 18, 2023 by dumbsparce

[YellowRibbon]

The impact of Iconography is highly overrated among pop fans' circles. Most people on this forum will recognize Britney walking with a snake on that stage in many years from now but the question comes down to "Will the new generations find any of this relevant?". What history has shown us is that the general public tends to remember specific songs or sometimes albums from mainstream artists more than all the extra stuff added to a song. 

 

With all of that in mind, saying that Taylor will end up with the biggest musical career between the two,in the long run, feels more accurate, especially looking at the numbers and how long did they manage to navigate the industry before declining. Britney's name feels more ingrained with Pop Culture though, and that's something that no one can take away from her. 

[Trent W]

1 hour ago, Intuition said:

Her career was already declining before anyone knew of her personal issues and how would she be more remembered in the future when she's not even close to as memorable as Taylor today?

Her career was already on decline because it was impossible to replicate that kind of success.

 

Britney’s peak is one of the biggest all time, Taylor had never seen that level of success in one era.

 

1989 is halfway of how big BOMT and Oops albums were.

 

Britney was a cultural phenomenon, the only era that has been able to reach those levels from females was 21.

 

[Popboi.]

Taylor passed her in album units, single units, touring, longevity, acclaim and so on. Some need to take off the stan goggles for a second.

[Popboi.]

1 minute ago, Trent W said:

1989 is halfway of how big BOMT and Oops albums were.

 

That's a lie, 1989 is very comparable to Oops and way more than "half" of BOMT.

[Trent W]

Just now, Popboi. said:

That's a lie, 1989 is very comparable to Oops and way more than "half" of BOMT.

This is way more than just adjusted numbers.

 

The level of celebrity, impact, influence and success all in one era is unmatched.

 

Taylor has never been halfway of a celeb that Britney was in those eras

 

She has never seen that level of impact and also she has never had that influence.

 

And this is not shade to Taylor, she’s had some influence over the new gen.

 

But honestly Taylor has never been a phenomenon or a cultural event in that way.

[Intuition]

24 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Her career was already on decline because it was impossible to replicate that kind of success.

 

Britney’s peak is one of the biggest all time, Taylor had never seen that level of success in one era.

 

1989 is halfway of how big BOMT and Oops albums were.

 

Britney was a cultural phenomenon, the only era that has been able to reach those levels from females was 21.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Trent W said:

This is way more than just adjusted numbers.

 

The level of celebrity, impact, influence and success all in one era is unmatched.

 

Taylor has never been halfway of a celeb that Britney was in those eras

 

She has never seen that level of impact and also she has never had that influence.

 

And this is not shade to Taylor, she’s had some influence over the new gen.

 

But honestly Taylor has never been a phenomenon or a cultural event in that way.

This is delusion and nostalgia talking. 

Taylor had several eras that were bigger than Britney's peak in the US and yes 1989 was not only bigger in the US than BOMT, but also Australia, UK, Japan, Canada, etc.

She was everywhere in the 1989 era and there was nobody who was even close to as big as she was.

Britney was never the top artist, there was always acts who were bigger at the same time. 

Contrary to popular belief, Taylor was also not only an act for kids like Britney was at her peak, which is how she's managed to stay on top for 17 years. 
Britney's "impact" was regulated to the MTV watching 1980s- early 90s born generation.