poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, The Music Industry said:

I legit don't think there's a single fandom as much in denial as Britney Spears stans. It's like they're COMPLETELY stuck in 2002. 

I mean Britney hasn't been successful in her own right or done anything "iconic" for a very long time now so it's not a surprise. I don't think there's any other fanbase on this site who's living as much in the past as they do 

[Alfred]

Sorry. Britney all the way. 
 

She changed pop culture. Sure Taylor might be more critically acclaimed, had better success with her music selling, etc. 

 

But the name Britney Spears trumps Taylor Swift by a long shot. 

[Johnny Cash]

11 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

Love how you conveniently ignored Britney co-writing 11/14 of the songs in In The Zone, and her being the executive producer of Blackout. Just love it

Executive producer doesn't mean **** for the creative process in the music industry  it's not like she actually produced the songs

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Johnny Cash said:

Executive producer doesn't mean **** for the creative process in the music industry  it's not like she actually produced the songs

Exactly. And "co-writing" songs doesn't mean anything, it can literally mean changing one or two words. And it's not like Britney's lyrics are impressive in any way 

[June]

Taylor. Peak vs peak is close but overall career is clearly Taylor

[WildHeart]

6 hours ago, Josh said:

No she just needs to write about her current ex to get any relevance to her music 

 

6 hours ago, Josh said:

Agree none of the Swifties have ever talked about her music without speculating what song is about Joe or Harry. Her feud with that actress; Camilla Belle was possibly her biggest career moment prior to the Kanye incident 

 

6 hours ago, Josh said:

and people are paying attention to Taylor's music without speculating about her exes? Name one person who genuinely listens to a Taylor song without wanting to know if it's about an ex or not

Folklore, an album that is not about any of her ex or feuds is bigger than any Britney album this side of 2001 

[Rabbit]

Taylor has the bigger career for sure. Britney’s highs feel more iconic though

[Blackout2006]

7 minutes ago, Johnny Cash said:

it's not like she actually produced the songs

 

4 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Exactly. And "co-writing" songs doesn't mean anything, it can literally mean changing one or two words. And it's not like Britney's lyrics are impressive in any way 

??? I'm going to take the opinion of those writers who worked with Britney that literally affirmed my point, over y'all hypothetical narratives  Britney figure out the melody on piano and wrote 'Everytime' with 'Someday (I Will Understand)' by herself. She has had many unreleased songs that she worked on herself with few producers or writers. Every producer that has worked with her as stated that she is heavily involved in the creative process.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Blackout2006

[SharonStone]

12 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

You said it yourself. Keep it as that until we reached her 8th or 9th album to see her position

"HEAVILY assisted by Elton John" is the actual definition of fanfiction, because almost every article that discussed the announcement of this song highlighted Britney as a feature in it, and the fact that none of Elton's solo singles performed well until HMC already squanders this delulu narrative. Just stop for a moment, and tell yourself that "HMC would've been the hit it was without Britney" 

No, you're missing my point. BM had many years of availability on Spotify, as an album cut and its viral push boosted it to 300 million streams. HMC did not have a similar setting and still got 235 million streams. That's literally not bad at all

 

While Bloody Mary has nothing to do with this thread, it didn't spend a single day on TTH. Hold Me Closer was on there for almost 5 months.

[Blackout2006]

1 minute ago, SharonStone said:

While Bloody Mary has nothing to do with this thread, it didn't spend a single day on TTH. Hold Me Closer was on there for almost 5 months.

Okay? BM literally made up for it with its virality on social media. The advantages of both these songs equalize the comparison.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Blackout2006

[FightDragonsWithMe]

I don't know why Britney Stans insist on living in 1998-2004, the entire move has world on from your fave. Do the same. 

[R. Ramirez]

23 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

Love how you conveniently ignored Britney co-writing 11/14 of the songs in In The Zone, and her being the executive producer of Blackout. Just love it

 

Do you know what executive producer means at least, sis?

 

Britney has NEVER produced any song in her life LET ALONE an entire album.

 

Executive producer =/= producer. It's just an honorary and non-technical position.

 

Britney has NEVER touched the writing process of her biggest hits (14 top 10s), which makes sense given Britney's lack of musical talent AND KNOWLEDGE.

[R. Ramirez]

9 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

 

??? I'm going to take the opinion of those writers who worked with Britney that literally affirmed my point, over y'all hypothetical narratives  Britney figure out the melody on piano and wrote 'Everytime' with 'Someday (I Will Understand)' by herself. She has had many unreleased songs that she worked on herself with few producers or writers. Every producer that has worked with her as stated that she is heavily involved in the creative process.

Did she write ...Baby One More Time?

Did she write Oops!... I Dit It Again?

Did she write Toxic?

Did she write Gimme More?

Did she write Womanizer?

 

NO. Because she's TALENTLESS.

[R. Ramirez]

24 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

You said it yourself. Keep it as that until we reached her 8th or 9th album to see her position

"HEAVILY assisted by Elton John" is the actual definition of fanfiction, because almost every article that discussed the announcement of this song highlighted Britney as a feature in it, and the fact that none of Elton's solo singles performed well until HMC already squanders this delulu narrative. Just stop for a moment, and tell yourself that "HMC would've been the hit it was without Britney" 

No, you're missing my point. BM had many years of availability on Spotify, as an album cut and its viral push boosted it to 300 million streams. HMC did not have a similar setting and still got 235 million streams. That's literally not bad at all

 

Did you read what I wrote at least? Bloody Mary's streams before it became a SINGLE were minimal (below 60M). You could remove them and BM would have still more. 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, R. Ramirez said:

Did she write ...Baby One More Time?

Did she write Oops!... I Dit It Again?

Did she write Toxic?

Did she write Gimme More?

Did she write Womanizer?

 

NO. Because she's TALENTLESS.

Yeah, I have a hard time believing this idea that "producers talked about stuff she's done" when there's literally NO PROOF that she actually ever did anything, just empty words from producers who are biased in her favor since they're making money out of her. Also, even if Britney WAS implicated in some of those songs (which i don't believe for one second), the songs themselves are so lyrically and musically simple that i would hardly see it as a "talent". Writing very basic crap is really not that hard 

[R. Ramirez]

8 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Yeah, I have a hard time believing this idea that "producers talked about stuff she's done" when there's literally NO PROOF that she actually ever did anything, just empty words from producers who are biased in her favor since they're making money out of her. Also, even if Britney WAS implicated in some of those songs (which i don't believe for one second), the songs themselves are so lyrically and musically simple that i would hardly see it as a "talent". Writing very basic crap is really not that hard 

 

 

Her being a producer is a MYTH, just like Blackout being on the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, another L-I-E Britney stans continue to tell themselves. It's just available on their LIBRARY, which means you can check it out. Considering FLOP albums like Nelly's Brass Knuckles are part of it too, trust me it's not an honor. 

 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by R. Ramirez

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

 

Her being a producer is a MYTH, just like Blackout being on the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, another L-I-E Britney stans continue to tell themselves. It's just available on their LIBRARY, which means you can check it out. Considering FLOP albums like Nelly's Brass Knuckles are part of it too, trust me it's not an honor. 

 

 

Why am i not surprised? 

[WildHeart]

3 hours ago, brazil said:

Nobody in the GP remember Taylor's first albums, including the singles. So what's your point 

Speak Now and Fearless are outstreaming Britney's catalogue daily as we speak

[Solaria]

43 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

I legit don't think there's a single fandom as much in denial as Britney Spears stans. It's like they're COMPLETELY stuck in 2002. 

The funny thing is no one except one user has denied that Taylor is bigger than Britney overall.

 

But most Swifties in this trend don’t wanna give Britney any props and do everything they can to diminish her success. 
 

 

[Mr. Stratus]

5 hours ago, Blackout2006 said:

No MPG has, is, or will ever have a trajectory or decline as tragic as this. You can take your rubbish elsewhere

Britney stans being baited to attack Gaga again in a thread about Taylor. Next it’ll be in a Justin timberlake thread. You guys get played like a fiddle

 

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Taylor now definitely. And she’ll continue to be successful 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Mr. Stratus

[Blackout2006]

56 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

Britney has NEVER touched the writing process of her biggest hits (14 top 10s), which makes sense given Britney's lack of musical talent AND KNOWLEDGE.

Many influential singers' BB toppers aren't written by them such as Celine, Madonna, or Whitney, but that does not take anything away from their artistry. Its basic knowledge was heavily restricted by her label in her prime commercial years

Edited April 16, 2023 by Blackout2006

[Blackout2006]

55 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

Did she write ...Baby One More Time?

Did she write Oops!... I Dit It Again?

Did she write Toxic?

Did she write Gimme More?

Did she write Womanizer?

 

NO. Because she's TALENTLESS.

Completely ignoring my entire post? DEFLECTION

Edited April 16, 2023 by Blackout2006

[Blackout2006]

52 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

Did you read what I wrote at least? Bloody Mary's streams before it became a SINGLE were minimal (below 60M). You could remove them and BM would have still more. 

That still give her the push, didn't it? If we subtract those 60 million streams, it would be 240 million streams, which puts it in the same range as HMC. A gap of 5 million streams? Wowwwww

[Blackout2006]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Britney stans being baited to attack Gaga again in a thread about Taylor. Next it’ll be in a Justin timberlake thread. You guys get played like a fiddle

No, I technically didn't say anything against Gaga but that user came at me for no reason whatsoever

[elincomprendid]

45 minutes ago, Love Again said:

The funny thing is no one except one user has denied that Taylor is bigger than Britney overall.

 

But most Swifties in this trend don’t wanna give Britney any props and do everything they can to diminish her success. 
 

 

No you all just keep denying Taylor's impact in music industry and act as if she was only about numbers lol but swifties are the one diminishing others' success so true!!