official J.K. Rowling Threads No Longer Allowed on ATRL

[#Beautiful]

2 minutes ago, Ryan said:

And they’re banned for it. 

you're the one mod I actively see communicating with us and taking productive action so I just want to let you know that this is greatly appreciated

[Stimulus]

I get that moderators only have so much time, but this is still a little sad because it shows that ATRL users weren't doing enough to report or post rebuttals against transphobic comments. I'll certainly be paying more attention to threads about trans rights after this.

[CBC]

Enough of giving that **** a platform

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

3 hours ago, mellenthin said:

Because the discussion goes absolutely nowhere.

Any discussion on ATRL that actually goes somewhere ?

[Vespertine]

Honestly, seems like it’s for the best. I’m sure some users will be_angry about this, but I’m sick of seeing the same transphobic losers flock to every JKR thread saying “some points have been made” or that everyone isn’t understanding “nuanced opinions.” It’s been gross and the arguments get out of hand in every single JKR thread. 

[Polgg48]

that's too bad for TERF heavy promotion in disguise which she probably laugh behind the screen in front of threads, elon next

[Trex]

ATRL the new CCP

Edited March 30 by Trex

[Virgos Groove]

Just now, Trex said:

ATRL the new CCP

Elaborate on this.

[LoveInStereo]

Thank god. It’s not constructive or productive to focus on her, if anything, you’re giving her a platform. If I didn’t go on here, I wouldn’t be aware of 1 thing she’s said since that 1st essay

[Virgos Groove]

33 minutes ago, Ryan said:

And they’re banned for it. 

I might be misremembering, but didn't they have a (now deleted) post here saying "this site gets more embarassing each day"?

 

Idk, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I always find a member who just barely joined complaining about mods and the supposed decline of ATRL (due to more stringent anti-bigotry policies) a bit... sus.

Edited March 30 by Virgos Groove

[Trex]

4 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Elaborate on this.

This move seems a bit authoritarian, and I doubt this will end transphobia on the site

 

also does this include threads about her books or movies? Or just her comments? 

Edited March 30 by Trex

[getBusy]

8 hours ago, Ryan said:

this is compounded by the fact that many of these comments unfortunately go unreported

I've worked in content moderation in the past in the Tech industry, and part of the problem here is that ATRL does not provide any type of feedback after someone reports a comment. This decentivizes people from reporting again, because the users don't know if there was any action taken, or if they were wrong and the content was policy-compliant. If you've ever reported anything on FB or Twitter, you know what this looks like.

 

It would be GREAT if we could get a follow up message after we report a comment, sharing if any action was taken or not. You don't even need to share details of the action taken, just something like 'Thanks for reporting, we took action according to our policies' or 'There was nothing against our policy in this comment'.

[DirtyPony87]

We should just ban Harry Potter discussions going forward. They’re books for babies. Grow up.

[khalyan]

This is a primarily LGBT forum and to me, banning a topic that causes so much harm to those in our community makes complete sense.  Every JK Rowling thread I have seen since I’ve been a mod here has had some sort of transphobia in it, and even if we’re banning every member who’s offensive in those threads we’re getting new members or old members who finally get brave enough to post their hateful rhetoric.  I just don’t think this specific battle is worth fighting if we can do a blanket ban to help our community. 

 

[khalyan]

34 minutes ago, Trex said:

This move seems a bit authoritarian, and I doubt this will end transphobia on the site

 

also does this include threads about her books or movies? Or just her comments? 

This ban is just about JK

 

So topics such as “JK Rowling retweets ______” would be banned, but other topics such as “Harry Potter new book to release next June” would be allowed

[khalyan]

24 minutes ago, getBusy said:

I've worked in content moderation in the past in the Tech industry, and part of the problem here is that ATRL does not provide any type of feedback after someone reports a comment. This decentivizes people from reporting again, because the users don't know if there was any action taken, or if they were wrong and the content was policy-compliant. If you've ever reported anything on FB or Twitter, you know what this looks like.

 

It would be GREAT if we could get a follow up message after we report a comment, sharing if any action was taken or not. You don't even need to share details of the action taken, just something like 'Thanks for reporting, we took action according to our policies' or 'There was nothing against our policy in this comment'.

We have worked at providing the feedback this forum used to “already reported” and “warning received” however the new forum software really limits this capability for us.

[Lady Claire]

Thank you

 

We don’t have to discuss this hag’s dumb views nor see the awful transphobic takes by some stupid members from this forum. Everytime i got into a thread about that there was always some terrible takes so it’s definitely for the best. Good job mods

[Flare]

I hate to be that person (deflecting slightly from the main point), but I’m surprised a line is being drawn at JK rowling, but equally bad things are being said daily on this site about various artists. Like the fat-shaming (for example) is at an all time high. Then there’s no warnings and threads are allowed to go on for pages.

 

Also, so many Celebria threads are outright harmful misinformation baiting members into nasty arguments or problematic insults. The “source” sometimes is a tweet, using a clip from a gossip podcast, that has 500 followers.

At some point we should clean up those things too if such a strong stance is against JK, who is just an external 3rd party and not even a member on this site who can *actively* post harmful things daily. 

[UnusualBoy]

I'm honestly not surprised that we got to that point but yeah, it's for the best.

[#Beautiful]

53 minutes ago, khalyan said:

This ban is just about JK

 

So topics such as “JK Rowling retweets ______” would be banned, but other topics such as “Harry Potter new book to release next June” would be allowed

maybe im dumb but that sounds like it would only benefit her?

[magazine]

oh wow 

 

HP threads should be banned too

[#Beautiful]

there are other platforms and groups even some centered around the late 2000s have banned harry potter topics altogether although they were a huge part of that culture because if she deserves no platform or spotlight neither does her product. some food for thought 

[fountain]

Some of you genuinely have no idea what authoritarianism is  being told you can’t support and spread hateful rhetoric on a pop culture forum is not authoritarian please grow up and touch grass

[Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣]

thank god. I was sick of seeing them. We knew she was a disgusting nasty ass transphobe and didn’t need a new thread about her every day to know that 

[madonnas]

Im happy we reached this decision.  For people saying “well what about azealia banks?”  Terrible person or not, people don’t usually use her threads as an excuse to air out bigotry and hateful rhetoric disguised as “honest discussion”