discussion Why Is There Such Hostility Towards Vegan Activism?

[Bussea]

Because there’s hostility from vegan activists 

[Ab1818]

I have a “friend” who tells me how bad it is that I’m vegan… for absolutely no reason. Don’t talk to this person much anymore, but this person would act like the “stereotype vegan”  in meat eater form lol. don’t care what anyone eats, I just find it funny how vegans have this stereotype when there are a lot of meat eaters who are very aggressive to vegans for no reason. To each their own, just don’t be a jerk.  

[GipJo]

Just because animals can move and mourn, you feel sorry for them, well what about plants? They're living beings as well, why no sympathy for them? Unless we reach the time where all our food will have to be artificially synthesized, then I don't think consuming meat is any worse than consuming anything vegans. The best you can do is not consume wild animals. The hypocrisy of vegan activism is evident. Don't talk about climate change because there are more serious problems that cause climate change, those can actually be,solved without ruining normal people's daily life. This vagan activism is just another form of ''normal people should be carbon neutral in daily life'', it's the elites that want us to take the consequences of climate change but they don't want to change their living styles. No, it's the government and the 1% who should do the jobs, not 99% of us. WAKE UP AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE INSTEAD. 

[GipJo]

Just because animals can move and mourn, you feel sorry for them, well what about plants? They're living beings as well, why no sympathy for them? Unless we reach the time where all our food will have to be artificially synthesized, then I don't think consuming meat is any worse than consuming anything vegans. The best you can do is not consume wild animals. The hypocrisy of vegan activism is evident. Don't talk about climate change because there are more serious problems that cause climate change, those can actually be,solved without ruining normal people's daily life. This vagan activism is just another form of ''normal people should be carbon neutral in daily life'', it's the elites that want us to take the consequences of climate change but they don't want to change their living styles. No, it's the government and the 1% who should do the jobs, not 99% of us. WAKE UP AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE INSTEAD. 

[Trent W]

I think most vegans are just very bad to spread the message.

 

It doesn’t help that most of them make being vegan their whole personality and their life completely revolves around it.

 

I hope the message finds a better way to be promoted, being 100% vegan is impossible for most people, for financial or health issues.

So the better solution is to regulate and being conscious of the way we eat and damage the planet. 

[Karla Cabello]

bc most people dont wanna see what they are doing its evil, but it is, they just dont wanna be reminded of it so they lash out at the people who are trying to do better. sheep mentality

[loveisdead9582]

There are always some individuals on both sides that take things WAYYY too far. I have not had a conversation about veganism with a vegan without it turning hostile. Vegetarians… we can meet in the middle (pun intended).
 

Working in the hospitality industry, vegans have typically (this is a sweeping generalization and does not apply to everyone) been the most difficult to please. Even if we do have items that are 100% vegan friendly we still get an attitude for serving items that are not vegan friendly. 

 

It’s not cut and dry - I totally understand that we need to cut down on mass producing medically enhanced livestock for multiple reasons. Sustainably farm raised (certain brands) and wild caught are the best ways to ensure that the animals at least lived a happy life. That said, I get more attitude or outright hostility from vegans than any other dietary group. 

[Into The Void]

22 minutes ago, playboi said:

 

this is your take from the video ? I see 6 ppl from a diverse background and only one of them acting like a rude "stereotypical" vegan which proves us that they are in fact not all like that basic logic 

Based on this video I could never be vegan cause I would probably eat things that aren't even vegan and not know it 

[bluth]

convincing themselves that vegans are all big meanies is a way of coping with cognitive dissonance 

[ProudLBS]

1 hour ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

Because they all act like Erin. Insufferable lot.

 

 

the way I thought of her right away

 

 

[Communion]

28 minutes ago, GipJo said:

Just because animals can move and mourn, you feel sorry for them, well what about plants?

[JoeAg]

well you telling me a few months ago that I'm a rape apologist for criticizing the milk pouring method of protest triggered me and made me think of when i was actually raped so  there's definitely ways to be less aggressive when debating yknow! you could've approached me criticizing it without jumping to that

 

otherwise, I've had plenty of vegan friends in my life and we've all been respectful of each other's eating and lifestyle habits. and if we've wanted to get into serious discourse about ethical lifestyle choices then we do so with calmness and dignity. so i just think that if someone wants to get involved in healthy discourse, confidence without aggression is key. this goes for any sort of debate on any topic imo tbh

[Summerboy95]

Because meat eaters know they are in the wrong side of history but are too lazy to leave their confort zone. The sad part is that they'll probably talk about how Russia/China/USA/etc are  sending x group of people to concentration camps or making something "inhumane", but they'll ignore the fact that millions of animals are being killed everyday and treated waaaay worse than that people in concentration camps.

 

They'll also ignore the fact that the animal industry is the main reason of deforestation, pandemics, inadequate food distribution systems, mass extinctions and also one of the most polluting industries.

 

But hey, the cow is smiling in my carton of milk!! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Summerboy95]

1 hour ago, GipJo said:

Just because animals can move and mourn, you feel sorry for them, well what about plants? They're living beings as well, why no sympathy for them? Unless we reach the time where all our food will have to be artificially synthesized, then I don't think consuming meat is any worse than consuming anything vegans. The best you can do is not consume wild animals. The hypocrisy of vegan activism is evident. Don't talk about climate change because there are more serious problems that cause climate change, those can actually be,solved without ruining normal people's daily life. This vagan activism is just another form of ''normal people should be carbon neutral in daily life'', it's the elites that want us to take the consequences of climate change but they don't want to change their living styles. No, it's the government and the 1% who should do the jobs, not 99% of us. WAKE UP AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE INSTEAD. 

Keep telling yourself that  if it makes you feel better about eating corpses filled with suffering 

 

[ninasayers]

1 hour ago, GipJo said:

Just because animals can move and mourn, you feel sorry for them, well what about plants? They're living beings as well, why no sympathy for them? Unless we reach the time where all our food will have to be artificially synthesized, then I don't think consuming meat is any worse than consuming anything vegans. The best you can do is not consume wild animals. The hypocrisy of vegan activism is evident. Don't talk about climate change because there are more serious problems that cause climate change, those can actually be,solved without ruining normal people's daily life. This vagan activism is just another form of ''normal people should be carbon neutral in daily life'', it's the elites that want us to take the consequences of climate change but they don't want to change their living styles. No, it's the government and the 1% who should do the jobs, not 99% of us. WAKE UP AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE INSTEAD. 

I don't mean to be rude but this is one of the worst takes on the matter I've ever read.

[45seconds]

The fact that being vegan has its own comedy archetype should tell you kinda everything about people who are vegan. 
 

It’s literally a personality type at this point. It doesn’t help that the antics they pull to try to get people to notice them are ineffective and a mild annoyance at best. The condescending attitude also doesn’t help to change minds either . 

 

[Reginald]

People are realizing most living organisms have some level of consciousness/self-awareness, and are afraid of the implications if we ever discover we aren't the top of the food chain.

 

We should hope the eventual non-human intelligences we encounter don't have a taste for Human McNuggets 

Wouldn't that be ironic? Vegan aliens who champion for human rights instead of harvesting us for dinner. 

 

I'm not vegan,  mind you, but have thought about this many times since I was a kid and first fully understood what meat was. 

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Reginald

[Velvet Night]

I am somewhere between a vegan and vegetarian, closer to vegan. I have strict rules for myself but I know I make exceptions others don't for example honey.

 

i think a lot of meat eater are hostile towards vegans because they hold a mirror up to those who eat animal corpses. People don’t like being confronted with the consequences of their actions, so they get defensive. 
 

However, I also get annoyed by vegan communities sometimes because it seems like veganism is their entire identity and they can be so judgemental of anyone with opposing views.

It's not all vegans of course, but this kind of attitude towards other people is very off putting . 

[GeminiCat]

Vegan activists need to do a better job of getting their messaging and activism across without the condescension and holier than thou approach. Yes I know there are plenty that aren't arrogant asshats but there is a very loud, vocal segment that are which turns off most people. 

[vale9001]

maybe they know without killing animals for warm up or without using horses to travel we wouldn't survived -evolved or we wouldn't build any civilitation.

So they are like thanks hunters for giving us Lady Gaga. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by vale9001

[brazil]

Maybe go after the meat. If people are not giving up meat, what made yall think dairy is gonna be it. 

 

Resorting to reasoning rather than this kinda of tactics would probably be more effective. 

[jonapova]

Veganism comes across as a burden, even to those practising it. It seems exhausting and your ‘reward’ is to have the trauma of constantly shopping for vegetables and preparing the same tasting meal in 1000 different ways. 
I have never seen a vegan who isn’t angry or looks unkempt, or one who doesn’t have an extensive crystal collection. I do not understand where they find the time to protest or preach on the internet non stop whilst supposedly working a job. 

[Gui Blackout]

8 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

I try to be tolerant of other views

I remember you calling people who drank milk "rape supporters" 

 

So yeah that pretty much answers your question 

[Raptus]

They always so agressive The will scream "MURDERER" at you insted of having normal conversation

[wehavetostan]

7 hours ago, JoeAg said:

well you telling me a few months ago that I'm a rape apologist for criticizing the milk pouring method of protest triggered me and made me think of when i was actually raped so  there's definitely ways to be less aggressive when debating yknow! you could've approached me criticizing it without jumping to that

The user who made this thread asked “Why is there such hostility towards those who only want animals to live in peace?” but goes around saying stuff like this… wow. Discussions about veganism with meat-eaters will never go anywhere if this is how vegans speak