Yog Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said: Isn't Israel just as homophobic as most of the middle east countries or it's the exception? Cuz if it's why would you risk yourself going there because is being held at Tel Aviv, which is an basically the gay capitol and essentially in pride month, im sure Sam will be safe but frankly i would love if Sam cancelled but they don’t think they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusualBoy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yog said: because is being held at Tel Aviv, which is an basically the gay capitol and essentially in pride month, im sure Sam will be safe but frankly i would love if Sam cancelled but they don’t think they can Oh I see well in that, hopefully everything will turn out right for them but yeah they best thing would be cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Whip Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Performing in an apartheid state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repelex Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 So? More power to his bank account Or is he supposed to fake an outrage over a state or majority of people who want him stoned to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Yog said: Both of you are not israeli/palestinian, and obliviously using this thread to come for Sam , when I’m willing to bet y’all couldn’t care less of the actual conflict I dont need to be either to care about the conflict. Embarrassing for you that you are still defending that garbage human being though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selegend Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Edit: nevermind. Just got it after reading other posts here. Edited March 14, 2023 by Selegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: I dont need to be either to care about the conflict. Embarrassing for you that you are still defending that garbage human being though I’m not defending anything, I just think if the conflict has no relation of your entire being then you have no say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Good for Sam, Israel is the only pro-LGBT society in the Middle East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunCoric Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: I dont need to be either to care about the conflict. Embarrassing for you that you are still defending that garbage human being though right? the fact that some people will stan their idols whatever they do is so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This is bad… theyre doing an active occupation and genocide of children even, and the people there are actively stealing natives land and supporting a terrible regime. they also use LGBT support to weaponize support for what they are doing. Sam Smith should learn from this criticism and cancel their performance. They are better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Good for Sam, Israel is the only pro-LGBT society in the Middle East Yes kill children but as long as youre so called pro LGBT its fine right… the propaganda really getting to yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, FunCoric said: right? the fact that some people will stan their idols whatever they do is so sad I literally just said they need to cancel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: Yes kill children but as long as youre so called pro LGBT its fine right… the propaganda really getting to yall You do make a point. The US government has murdered countless children and innocent humans across the Middle East for decades, and is currently doing so as we speak with drone strikes. There should be a campaign to shame and cancel any artist who chooses to tour in the United States, until every major artist signs a commitment to never perform on US soil until their government stops killing innocent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvadaKedavra Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) I dont get why people get riled up about artists performing in the middle east. They deserve to be happy too. The stans from there rarely have concerts The Gay community there shouldnt suffer for their goverment wrongdoings. The States and Europe dont have the best human rights records, So artists shouldnt perform there too? Edited March 14, 2023 by AvadaKedavra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenMachine Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Was Russia going to hold a pride celebration? I don't think so. Let Sam get the money this time, they need it Also, isn't Sam British? The UK are the ones who basically created Israel as it is today so it doesn't surprise me to see a British person supporting Israel despite of what that country has done in the last years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, BrokenMachine said: Was Russia going to hold a pride celebration? I don't think so. Let Sam get the money this time, they need it Also, isn't Sam British? The UK are the ones who basically created Israel as it is today so it doesn't surprise me to see a British person supporting Israel despite of what that country has done in the last years The only international artists performing are British, so there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 As if i needed more reasons to dislike Sam Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izebize Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Selegend said: Sam is performing at a PRIDE event in a conservative country. Isnt this nice tbh? Its a PRIDE event there, this is will have bigger impact than boycott. No? Look up the term "pinkwashing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selegend Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, izebize said: Look up the term "pinkwashing" Yeah!! I’ve just read other posts here, googled it and got it. Now i get what Israel is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Jjang said: there was tons of outrage for Gaga what are you talking about its just that people weren’t educated about what’s actually been happening in Palestine until May of 2021 when the uprising began. She even visited one month after Israel’s biggest genocide on Gaza had happened and had the AUDACITY to tweet from her hotel that “the media lies about Israel” to earn last minute ticket sales cause her show was massively flopping there. white gays and their supporters only care about themselves and what ultimately serves them. There’s no surprise here. The way you are literally barefaced lying Nothing new from you, but definitely a whole new low to use genocide to lie about a pop girl you dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Than A Melody Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Is this organized by the Israeli estate or by a private contractor? That makes a difference for me. If you're performing for the government of the terrible country, then yeah, you're disgusting. If you're performing for the fans then I don't really see the issue with performing anywhere. Israel, Russia, China, Turkey, etc. It gets trickier when it's principalities like Dubai where the government basically controls everything, but I don't think that's the case for Israel, correct me if I'm wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.M.K. Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, izebize said: Look up the term "pinkwashing" 39 minutes ago, Selegend said: Yeah!! I’ve just read other posts here, googled it and got it. Now i get what Israel is doing. This is insulting to the thousands of LGBTQ activists in Israel who have fought – and continue to fight – for full equality for queer people. That is not to say that the Israeli government is not carrying out abhorrent actions, but minimizing the livelihood of queer Israelis and those who seek asylum in Israel because they are being persecuted elsewhere for their sexual orientation does not help anyone. Things can be more nuanced than just "queer people have rights in Israel only because of the evil conspiracy to 'pinkish' the state" Edited March 14, 2023 by N.M.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, UnusualBoy said: Isn't Israel just as homophobic as most of the middle east countries or it's the exception? Cuz if it's why would you risk yourself going there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liver Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 who tf cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Yog said: I’m not defending anything, I just think if the conflict has no relation of your entire being then you have no say So only because we don’t live there we cannot spread awareness of the atrocities being committed and how there’s people (usually white queers) that still don’t care? Do you realize the extent of your stupidity just to defend certified garbage human being Sam Smith? you’re literally proving the point imagine saying what you said with your whole chest to defend Sam smith of all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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