celeb news Sam Smith to perform in Isreal

[Jjang]

20 minutes ago, Richmond said:

Maybe if ISRAEL’s neighbouring countries weren’t living in a MENTAL Stone Age, life (in general) would be great for people within these countries. But then again, what would an ATRL user who has zero knowledge on the Middle East (or many things seemingly enough with your posts) know about what’s going on over there?

“if they are homophobic countries then that means they must live in an open air prison or under illegal military occupation that controls and abuses every aspect of their lives” - great logic! 

 

and this whole “Palestinians routinely throw gays from the roof” theory  I’m a gay, Christian Palestinian and that has yet to happen to me. In fact, Mohammed El Kurd is gay and he has yet to be thrown from his roof either! 

 

Is it generally gay accepting? No. But this whole narrative that Palestinians are on a daily quest to find gays to throw out the roof is so next level orientalist and racist 

 

Not to mention that homophobia (as well as hate crimes in Jewish communities against gays) in Israel has been on a severe and constant rise for years now. Even Israelis themselves call Tel Aviv a delusional bubble that does not represent the rest of the country whatsoever. 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Jjang

[SmittenCake]

9 minutes ago, Richmond said:

Maybe if ISRAEL’s neighbouring countries weren’t living in a MENTAL Stone Age, life (in general) would be great for people within these countries. But then again, what would an ATRL user who has zero knowledge on the Middle East (or many things seemingly enough with your posts) know about what’s going on over there?

1.) I love how you keep trying to correct my spelling when you literally just spelled neighboring wrong. Also, keep up with the personal attacks. 

 

2.) These countries and states were long progressive before The West decided to infiltrate and westernize. I may not be skilled at this topic, but I'm very much confident in what I'm talking about. The West destroying The Middle East and having them revert to strict forms of conservativism or "mental stone age" is no different from when political party's in the USA destroy communities and thus the result of generations of crime, poverty & regressive thinking. 

 

 

[SmittenCake]

21 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

And that support is still only getting bigger despite Biden's shameless claims to be "deeply concerned and troubled" by Israel's illegal settlement expansion.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

“if they are homophobic countries then that means they must live in an open air prison or under illegal military occupation that controls and abuses every aspect of their lives” - great logic! 

 

and this whole “Palestinians routinely throw gays from the roof” theory  I’m a gay, Christian Palestinian and that has yet to happen to me. In fact, Mohammed El Kurd is gay and he has yet to be thrown from his roof either! 

 

Is it generally gay accepting? No. But this whole narrative that Palestinians are on a daily quest to find gays to throw out the roof is so next level orientalist and racist 

 

Not to mention that homophobia (as well as hate crimes in Jewish communities against gays) in Israel has been on a severe and constant rise for years now. Even Israelis themselves call Tel Aviv a delusional bubble that does not represent the rest of the country whatsoever. 

[Intuition]

1 minute ago, SmittenCake said:

1.) I love how you keep trying to correct my spelling when you literally just spelled neighboring wrong. Also, keep up with the personal attacks. 

 

2.) These countries and states were long progressive before The West decided to infiltrate and westernize. I may not be skilled at this topic, but I'm very much confident in what I'm talking about. The West destroying The Middle East and having them revert to strict forms of conservativism or "mental stone age" is no different from when political party's in the USA destroy communities and thus the result of generations of crime, poverty & regressive thinking. 

 

 

Which ones? 

[Phaunzie]

This is ok, they are getting money for it. I didn't know that LGBT rights needs to be a prerequisite when it comes to blatant and brutal human rights violations, and ethnic cleansing.

 

I just saying, why does that need to be considered in order for you to care for an oppressed people?

[#Beautiful]

[magazine]

it's a sam smith performance, it's already offensive in itself  Do we really need to discuss this?

[Richmond]

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

“if they are homophobic countries then that means they must live in an open air prison or under illegal military occupation that controls and abuses every aspect of their lives” - great logic! 

 

and this whole “Palestinians routinely throw gays from the roof” theory  I’m a gay, Christian Palestinian and that has yet to happen to me. In fact, Mohammed El Kurd is gay and he has yet to be thrown from his roof either! 

 

Is it generally gay accepting? No. But this whole narrative that Palestinians are on a daily quest to find gays to throw out the roof is so next level orientalist and racist 

 

Not to mention that homophobia (as well as hate crimes in Jewish communities against gays) in Israel has been on a severe and constant rise for years now. Even Israelis themselves call Tel Aviv a delusional bubble that does not represent the rest of the country whatsoever. 

1. I clearly wasn’t specifically talking about gay rights in the Middle East, but human rights in general. Please ENLIGHTEN me how Palestine or its neighbouring countries are advocates for equal human rights - gay or not.

 

2. It probably hasn’t happened to you because you’re not out to anyone. Are you even living in Palestine currently to speak on this?

 

3. No one said Palestine is on a “daily quest” to execute gays - the original question simply asked if Palestine is pro-LGBT, which it is not. 
 

4. Israel holds the biggest LGBT parade in the WORLD on a yearly basis with over 1-2+ MILLION attendees. That says enough. 
 

2 minutes ago, SmittenCake said:

1.) I love how you keep trying to correct my spelling when you literally just spelled neighboring wrong. Also, keep up with the personal attacks. 

 

2.) These countries and states were long progressive before The West decided to infiltrate and westernize. I may not be skilled at this topic, but I'm very much confident in what I'm talking about. The West destroying The Middle East and having them revert to strict forms of conservativism or "mental stone age" is no different from when political party's in the USA destroy communities and thus the result of generations of crime, poverty & regressive thinking. 

 

 

1. I keep correcting your spelling because you made an entire thread and multiple posts attacking a country which you can’t even correctly spell the name of, yet are trying to convince others here you are educated enough to speak on the subject.  Me saying that seems to be a trend with your overall ATRL posts is also not a “personal attack”, but simply an observation. But who can tell the difference anymore, given half your posts are troll posts?! Speaking of lack of education, “neighbouring” spelled with a “U” is the used spelling in British English (UK/NZ/AUS/CAN).

 

2. You’re saying the West is to blame for the Middle East encompassing Neanderthalic ways of thinking? Are you stating they’re too dumb to think for themselves? How about UAE and the other rich Middle Eastern countries which the “West” has not “infiltrated”? What’s their excuse? Thanks, boo!!

[Richmond]

9 minutes ago, Intuition said:

Which ones? 

  they’re truly living in a fairytale.
 

This is why you can’t have these conversations on this forum with Westerners who read one article on Twitter and think they’re fully educated on an almost century-long war. Delirious 

[Yog]

4 minutes ago, magazine said:

it's a sam smith performance, it's already offensive in itself  Do we really need to discuss this?

I don’t know about that but I’m pretty sure most would go see Sam over your fave any day of the week tho 

[Both Sides Now]

53 minutes ago, Jjang said:

white gays and their supporters only care about themselves and what ultimately serves them. There’s no surprise here. 

As a white gay myself, this sums it up  

 

The way murder of children is justified because Israel has a pocket of gay-friendly activities exposes the unadulterated selfishness of white gay men. The poppers fumes from Tel Aviv gay pride must affect their critical reasoning skills. 
 

OT: Disappointing from Sam. They have spoken about the discrimination they’ve felt on the streets. Where’s the empathy for Palestinians facing discrimination on their streets?

[State of Grace.]

11 minutes ago, Richmond said:

  they’re truly living in a fairytale.
 

This is why you can’t have these conversations on this forum with Westerners who read one article on Twitter and think they’re fully educated on an almost century-long war. Delirious 

You keep throwing this "argument" in every thread about Israel when SmittenCake, Jjang and me are literally not "Westerners". Some members here are literally Palestinians living there. 

 

Just say that you're a Zionist who gives no f*cks about human rights and Palestinian queer people and move on, instead of all the "you're all western gays who get educated from infographics!!!" mental gymnastics.

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Mr. Mendes]

1 hour ago, Yog said:

Sam isn’t the only one performing, Robbie Willaim & Calum Scott are performing as well, where’s this energy for them

 

The selective outrage is 

And they're wrong for it too. Openly showing any sort of association to or support for Israel in their quest to Pinkwash the atrocities they're committing on a daily basis is gross and unjustifiable. 

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said:

As a white gay myself, this sums it up  

 

The way murder of children is justified because Israel has a pocket of gay-friendly activities exposes the unadulterated selfishness of white gay men. The poppers fumes from Tel Aviv gay pride must affect their critical reasoning skills. 
 

OT: Disappointing from Sam. They have spoken about the discrimination they’ve felt on the streets. Where’s the empathy for Palestinians facing discrimination on their streets?

and this year has been the deadliest year ever for Palestinians and we’re only in March… no regards for human life whatsoever. 

 

Shireen Abu Akleh’s family still not getting their justice for the war crime that was her muder, a 12 year old shot in her own home, dozens of Palestinians burned alive by Jewish settlers in Huwara that were never held accountable for their crimes etc because in apartheid Israel Jews can murder Palestinians and get a cookie for it. 

[Richmond]

1 minute ago, State of Grace. said:

You keep throwing this "argument" in every thread about Isreal when SmittenCake, Jjang and me are literally not "Westerners". Some members here are literally Palestinians living there. 

 

Just say that you're a Zionist who gives no f*cks about human rights and Palestinian queer people and move on, instead of all the "you're all western gays who get educated from infographics!!!" mental gymnastics.

 

Seems to be a trend where the “educated” members can’t spell the name of a country correctly yet have no issue calling others dumb

 

Are either three of you currently living in Palestine? Quick!

[Horizon Flame]

1 hour ago, SmittenCake said:

Are the other two queer icons? 

Is Sam?  Robbie Williams has been huge with the gay community for decades. Whether he’s big with the queer one is anyone’s guess. The public seems completely turned off by Sam. 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Horizon Flame

[EarthJang]

Disgusting 

[State of Grace.]

1 minute ago, Richmond said:

Seems to be a trend where the “educated” members can’t spell the name of a country correctly yet have no issue calling others dumb

 

Are either three of you currently living in Palestine? Quick!

I am not living in Palestine and that won't stop me from calling out the genocide happening there and Terrorist Israel's atrocities committed on the basis of ethnic supremacy.

[Rosenda]

15 minutes ago, SmittenCake said:

1.) I love how you keep trying to correct my spelling when you literally just spelled neighboring wrong. Also, keep up with the personal attacks. 

 

2.) These countries and states were long progressive before The West decided to infiltrate and westernize. I may not be skilled at this topic, but I'm very much confident in what I'm talking about. The West destroying The Middle East and having them revert to strict forms of conservativism or "mental stone age" is no different from when political party's in the USA destroy communities and thus the result of generations of crime, poverty & regressive thinking. 

 

 

This whole post 

1. Neighbouring is correct. Thats standard British English

2. No they never were. Islam is the antithesis of progress. The West has NOTHING to do with that.

 

You should stop talking out your ass cause it makes you look dumb af, i cringe so hard whenever i come across one of your posts... my godddd

[Both Sides Now]

6 minutes ago, Jjang said:

and this year has been the deadliest year ever for Palestinians and we’re only in March… no regards for human life whatsoever. 

 

Shireen Abu Akleh’s family still not getting their justice for the war crime that was her muder, a 12 year old shot in her own home, dozens of Palestinians burned alive by Jewish settlers in Huwara that were never held accountable for their crimes etc because in apartheid Israel Jews can murder Palestinians and get a cookie for it. 

The murder of an international journalist or a 12 year old child is too complex an issue for anyone to understand though. They were living/existing in a homophobic state so it was completely justifiable. 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Both Sides Now

[Intuition]

16 minutes ago, Richmond said:

  they’re truly living in a fairytale.
 

This is why you can’t have these conversations on this forum with Westerners who read one article on Twitter and think they’re fully educated on an almost century-long war. Delirious 

I mean I'm not even talking about I/P conflict, I'm genuinely curious.

Because if they mean the Ottoman Empire (which I've seen called progressive) then

[Richmond]

1 minute ago, State of Grace. said:

I am not living in Palestine and that won't stop me from calling out the genocide happening there and Terrorist Israel's atrocities committed on the basis of ethnic supremacy.

Perfect, so my original post stands 

[Jjang]

7 minutes ago, Richmond said:

Seems to be a trend where the “educated” members can’t spell the name of a country correctly yet have no issue calling others dumb

 

Are either three of you currently living in Palestine? Quick!

Yes lol 

[SmittenCake]

13 minutes ago, Richmond said:

1. I keep correcting your spelling because you made an entire thread and multiple posts attacking a country which you can’t even correctly spell the name of, yet are trying to convince others here you are educated enough to speak on the subject.  Me saying that seems to be a trend with your overall ATRL posts is also not a “personal attack”, but simply an observation. But who can tell the difference anymore, given half your posts are troll posts?! Speaking of lack of education, “neighbouring” spelled with a “U” is the used spelling in British English (UK/NZ/AUS/CAN).

 

2. You’re saying the West is to blame for the Middle East encompassing Neanderthalic ways of thinking? Are you stating they’re too dumb to think for themselves? How about UAE and the other rich Middle Eastern countries which the “West” has not “infiltrated”? What’s their excuse? Thanks, boo!!

1.) You should stop correcting me since this is about the 5th time in a different thread where you've tried to correct my spelling...while in the same thread having multiple spelling errors in your own post. I made a thread about Kim Yo-jong condemning US military in the title and you literally thought I spelled out Kim Jong-un. Your attempts at trying to humiliate me in any capacity is went from laughable to downright creepy. Also, you are not from the UK/NZ/AUS/CAN so you have no reason to be using the British English. This is just a cop-out since I clocked you (and I know you're from the states coz you bragged about getting tickets in Chicago or whatever to see Iggy Azalea, Saweetie and Cupcakke tour in your city or whatver)

 

2.) Western meddling and ruthless invasions has resulted in the Middle East taking more conservative "traditional" approach when it comes to their politics and social ways of life. 

[Elusive Chanteuse]

So?