QueenBeyoncé Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, Red Hot Moon said: So are Waka Waka and Whenever Wherever. And yet Beyoncé outsold by a lot a lot
Frozen99 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 my grandma was ECSTATIC when a local called her "shakira" in egypt i think shakira is more global but bey is one of the few who could challenge her.
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: Not when Halo exist… check the stats and come back to me Tht part
AvadaKedavra Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Im from a latino country and Beyonce was not that big in my country. I dont have any memories of me as a kid walking the streets or malls and people playing her records. I only remember people playing Madonna-Britney-Xtina-Avril (She was everywhere) and of course Shakira obviously To be fair Latinoamerica had her own powerful pop-rock music scene and R&B-Country were almost non-factors Iconic singers in the States like Brandy-Monica-Aaliyah-Toni Braxton are unrecognized here. Beyonce music was Pop but it was categorized as R&B and that damaged her chances of gettin more love. American Labels prioritized the promo of White artists here in LA. The "I Am Sasha Fierce" era is when i remember people outside playing Beyonce tracks and when my friends started mentioning her Now i think she's very recognized and people respect her so so much. She even sold out an arena-stadium in my country The first time i listened to Beyonce was with the family proud theme, then i remember crazy in love in some movies and then in 2007 i discovered the beautiful irrepleaceable once i got access to internet and Youtube. I Inmediately turned Stan. She was so classy and pretty. I think Beyonce and Shakira have diferent territories Beyonce is big in Northamerica-Europe and Africa? Shakira is big in Latinoamerica-Europe-Middle East/India Both of them are not that big in East Asia.....Taylor Swift-Avril as yll know own those regions. In Oceania Shakira had a lot of success but someone threw a bag of cement to her and she never went back. Beyonce is big in Oceania right? I think Shakira feels like a bigger name worldwide cause her hits were more massive than the Beyonce ones. Even if shakira is not a big album seller. Whenever-Hips-Waka were too huge. Shakira also had the backup of 3 worlds cups and that can get you so so far. To every corner of the planet People in The States ignore how big is Soccer worldwide Shakira also comes from a very multicultural background. Middle Eastern-White-Latino....and was raised in a caribbean town with african influences. Personally i find both of them incredible and larger-than-life. They have a special charisma. They were both born to be megastars. There's such a naturality in them. U can see the talent. I wish we had more singers today like them. Looks like an impossible feat today. So many basic newcomers today Were blessed to have these two ladies today Can yll stop comparing Shakira to everyone else So many threads lately you all are gonna make ATRL hate her Edited March 12, 2023 by AvadaKedavra
Jooj Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, QueenBeyoncé said: It’s just did not show in record sales, album units, tours gross or streams etc Quote Based off name recognition alone
Jonver Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, ToraeGilt said: Your first statement alone is bold face lie so I’m not even going to entertain this damn hives are trully delusional, so you dont know BL it's Her first and only no.1 in multiple mainland European countries lmao
ToraeGilt Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Even Jlo is bigger than Shakira and I’m not even being funny
Moonturn Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: Not when Halo exist… check the stats and come back to me HDL is literally the best selling single of the 00's. Nothing to come back for.
Moonturn Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: What even are these lies? Just looked it up, it's true. In Germany, for instance, Beyonce has only one single #1 - and it's Beautiful Liar
Lorelei Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, ToraeGilt said: Even Jlo is bigger than Shakira and I’m not even being funny Aside from being openly ignorant and xenophobic now you resort to absolute nonsense for the heck of it
ToraeGilt Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonver said: damn hives are trully delusional, so you dont know BL it's Her first and only no.1 in multiple mainland European countries lmao I would suggest you actively use those brain cellls and make use of google before coming on here to spew lies…
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jooj said: And the answer is still No And I mean Beyoncé can sell out tours without doing nothing off her name alone and gross alot alot why can’t Shakira..I mean after all she’s the most global gal correct? Edited March 12, 2023 by QueenBeyoncé
ToraeGilt Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Moonturn said: HDL is literally the best selling single of the 00's. Nothing to come back for. Who said that? Because halo is out-steaming on EVERY platform. Again check the stats
*-ChriZ-* Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Moonturn said: Just looked it up, it's true. In Germany, for instance, Beyonce has only one single #1 - and it's Beautiful Liar Still not her biggest song there, so ur point is? Cute peak I suppose
Jonver Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ToraeGilt said: I would suggest you actively use those brain cellls and make use of google before coming on here to spew lies… Shakira gave her only #1 in France, Italy, Germany and other European countries. Keep crying. She’s outstreaming your fave with no album in 7 years.
Cain Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: Even Jlo is bigger than Shakira and I’m not even being funny You must be American then cause this doesn’t go for anywhere else in the world
ToraeGilt Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, Jonver said: Shakira gave her only #1 in France, Italy, Germany and other European countries. Keep crying. She’s outstreaming your fave with no album in 7 years. Just now, Cain said: You must be American then cause this doesn’t go for anywhere else in the world I’m not American and I don’t live in America…
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 So Shakira’s next tour outgross REN right? I can’t wait to revisit this thread
Jooj Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, QueenBeyoncé said: And the answer is still No And I mean Beyoncé can sell out tours without doing nothing off her name alone and gross alot alot why can’t Shakira..I mean after all she’s the most global gal correct? Grossing more on tours means you have a bigger fanbase, not that youre more omnipresent within the GP. Whenever Shakira tours im sure this will be her biggest tour yet either way. Sorry you dont agree with me, ms QueenBeyonce
toxicgenie Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: It just doesn’t translate when comes to albums, tour gross or record sales? Got it What happens if you change tour gross to tickets sold world wide? Shakira just feels like she's "the people's artist." Like maybe she doesn't get the most sales because she doesn't make music about wealth but for people for all walks of life.
Freakshowvato Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: Even Jlo is bigger than Shakira and I’m not even being funny How old are you? This is not true. Shakira is much more global than JLo, especially in Latin America and Middle East/Asia. The fact she is part Lebanese made her extraordinarily famous in the Middle East, one of the most famous of the Western world. Also she has much bigger hits. Edited March 12, 2023 by Freakshowvato
Freakshowvato Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Yes based on name alone, beyonce and shakira have equal holding throughout the world. Shakira is less famous in the USA more in non-USA countries, Beyonce is more in USA less in non-USA, but on average both are extraordinarily powerful names globally. Edited March 12, 2023 by Freakshowvato
Cain Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: I’m not American and I don’t live in America… So you’re lying
ToraeGilt Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 I just remembered that Mi gente remix sold more than any Shakira song in Latin America. Check the riaa stats. I’m crying . You’re trying to bring up the fact that Shakira gave bey her first no.1 outside of the US (which is a lie) but Beyoncé has a song that outsold Shakira in her own TERRITORY? You ppl are unserious
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jooj said: Grossing more on tours means you have a bigger fanbase, not that youre more omnipresent within the GP. Whenever Shakira tours im sure this will be her biggest tour yet either way. Sorry you dont agree with me, ms QueenBeyonce But wouldn’t the most global girl have the “biggest fanbase”? Make sense now So in other words NO her tour will NOT match Beyoncé’s global gross Edited March 12, 2023 by QueenBeyoncé
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