SF Mayor wants additional $27M police/prosecutor bonus, despite SFPD overspending

[jakeisphat]

 

 

Mayor Breed's push is joined by her hand-picked district attorney, who announced this week that she was dropping a homicide case against an SFPD officer. She is currently under investigation for failing to disclose being paid $153,000 as a "consultant" by a non-profit that worked to oust her predecessor. 

 

 

 

[Richmond]

They deserve every penny

[Zoe_]

Blame the criminals. Crime in SF is repeaking

[Communion]

25 minutes ago, Richmond said:

They deserve every penny

 

10 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

Blame the criminals. Crime in SF is repeaking

How many poor people would either of you personally murder to ensure America remains a carceral police state?

[Communion]

Also, the irony:

 

"SAN FRAN DA CHESA IS LETTING CRIMINALS GO FREE AND RUN WILD!!"

*1 year later*

"SAN FRAN DA JENKINS DID THE RIGHT THING LETTING A COP WHO COMMITTED MURDER GO!!"

 

 

Anyone who supports cops isn't concerned with crime. They just want poor people killed and terrorized.

[Zoe_]

4 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

How many poor people would either of you personally murder to ensure America remains a carceral police state?

I wouldn't murder anyone. I just feel it's time for people to get their s**t together. No one is perfect and everyone struggles, but robbing and murdering will not solve poverty. There are hard working people who are robbed and even murdered by those who simply do not want to work. There is an employee shortage throughout America. 

 

NO MORE EXCUSES FOR MENACE BEHAVIOR!!!

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Zoe_ said:

There are hard working people who are robbed and even murdered by those who simply do not want to work.

You mean like the person killed by a cop who the far-right San Fran DA withdrew homicide charges against?

Edited March 11, 2023 by Communion

[Richmond]

6 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

I wouldn't murder anyone. I just feel it's time for people to get their s**t together. No one is perfect and everyone struggles, but robbing and murdering will not solve poverty. There are hard working people who are robbed and even murdered by those who simply do not want to work. There is an employee shortage throughout America. 

 

NO MORE EXCUSES FOR MENACE BEHAVIOR!!!

Right  that user is an extreme socialist who lives in a dystopian world, though, so don’t bother with the back and forth. People love to whine about the police until they need to call 911. It’s a job none of you can even fathom taking on. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Richmond

[Zoe_]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

You mean like the person killed by a cop who the far-right San Fran DA withdrew homicide charges against?

Murderous cops deserve prison too. I'm not pro cop. I'm simply anti-criminal.

Doyou have any other solutions to solving the massive increase in crime?

[Communion]

8 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

Murderous cops deserve prison too.

And yet the people who you support when believing their claims that crime requires more policing are saying cops don't deserve jail. Are you gullible or just indifferent? 

 

8 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

Do you have any other solutions to solving the massive increase in crime?

It's long documented that poverty is the root cause for the vast majority of crime. Whether you want to accept that fact and concede to the concessions that are needed to expand our social safety net to lower crime rates is up to you, but you can't both fear-monger over crime *and* be adverse to the most successful tactic to lowering crime rates over several decades - poverty elimination. 

 

If poverty causes most crime, how will crime be solved by moving funds from essential services to policing?

Edited March 11, 2023 by Communion

[modeblock]

the way they will spend millions protecting a huge luxury goods corporation, but wouldn't throw a nickel into actually protecting the most vulnerable in communities they "serve" hideous, and those users defending them are extremely ******* ignorant to reality 

[Zoe_]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

And yet the people who you support when believing their claims that crime requires more policing are saying cops don't deserve jail. Are you gullible or just indifferent? 

 

It's long documented that poverty is the root cause for the vast majority of crime. Whether you want to accept that fact and concede to the concessions that are needed to expand our social safety net to lower crime rates is up to you, but you can't both fear-monger over crime *and* be adverse to the most successful tactic to lowering crime rates over several decades - poverty elimination. 

 

If poverty causes most crime, how will crime be solved by moving funds to essential services to policing?

I asked for solution in which you did not provide.

 

Crime today is increasing because of mentality. Not Poverty. Yes, studies have showed that poverty can lead to crime. But let's talk about poverty. Poverty basically represents a lack of employment opportunities. In the United States, if someone that is able to work does not, that is a CHOICE. We are in a society where people want more than what they work for. That is why most thieves we see on camera aren't stealing diapers, food, other needy items. They're stealing high Fashion items, wigs, jewelry, and other items they do not need.  We've had an increase in sexual assault cases. How does poverty lead to rape??? Untreated mental illnesses, drugs, emotion unintelligence, and entitlement are the current causes of crime. 

 

The police system is far from perfect and there are criminal-cops. I know that. But, there are also cops that want to make a difference. There should be LESS laws that protect cops. That  I will support. 

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

Poverty basically represents a lack of employment opportunities.

I need you to post both your personal yearly salary info and job title because this displays a fundamental lack of understanding of how poverty objectively works, that either you are deeply ignorant or personally affluent and trolling.

 

The vast majority of poor people work. We can even focus on homelessness - a topic close to all reactionary suburbanites in San Fran - and this remains. Half of all homeless people maintain regular employment:

So to suggest that poverty is caused by "lack of opportunity" and not systemic hoarding of wages and purposeful gouging of prices for essential goods to maximize profit is disingenuous. Just as it's disingenuous to suggest people who steal aren't stealing out of necessity if they're not stealing just diapers and formula (and even then, we get told that most people who do *that* are actually still evil and bad too for fueling a black market). You can't pay your rent in diapers. You can pay your rent in money and cash you get from selling of stolen luxury goods.

 

57 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

Untreated mental illnesses, drugs

Addiction is a mental illesss, so you're being now illogical, but also - it's further illogical to suggest that the lack of access to healthcare has something nothing to do with poverty within America. Do you have insurance? Who provides your insurance? How much % of your monthly income do you spend on insurance? This costs money, right? What do you believe people do when they have no money and cannot afford to access healthcare?

 

59 minutes ago, Zoe_ said:

We've had an increase in sexual assault cases.

Fun fact - police are disproportionately likely to have committed either an act of domestic violence or sexual assault than the average American citizen. In fact, 40% of cops nationwide have domestic violence records.

I don't think anyone needs lecturing from the San Francisco Police Department on sexual assault: