discussion UFOs/UAPs Base Thread | U.S. Mass Mysterious 'Drone' Sightings

[HungryByTheBuffet]

We may have lost interest but the U.S (etc) governments are still at it everyday, copy pasting news from the last month cause I am gonna keep this thread going till this reaches an actual conclusion or truly dies down...

 

This past month in Disclosure:

 

Mar 1st:

Mona Nemer, the Canadian government's top scientific advisor, says her office will release a public UFO report by early fall:

"I think our report is going to be quite fascinating on the historic front, so stay tuned"

 

Mar 1st:

Speaking to Project Unity in a YouTube interview, Rep. Ogles speculated on the technological capabilities displayed by certain UAP incidents, and questioned what impact this may have on the global economy/energy sector.

"They seem to have some sort of propulsion technology that's unknown to man as we understand it. What does that do to the energy sector?"

Apr 16 – AARO publishes declassified records related to a proposed UAP program designated as "KONA BLUE"

According to an explanatory document published by AARO, KONA BLUE was identified as:

"a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) sensitive compartment established to protect the retrieval and exploitation of 'non-human biologics.' AARO researched the information provided by the interviewees and learned KONA BLUE was a Prospective Special Access Program (PSAP) that had been proposed to DHS leadership but was never approved or formally established."

The original proposal (and other associated documents) were also published.

 

Apr 17 – Steven Spielberg is allegedly working on an original UFO-related movie

According to Variety, Steven Speilberg's next film will be a UFO-oriented movie with an original screenplay written by David Koepp.

 

Apr 17 – the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) launches its UAP integration and outreach committee with a new website

According to the new website and launch release, this initiative assembles subject matter experts and publishes thought leadership articles to help improve aerospace safety by enhancing scientific knowledge of, and mitigating barriers to the study of, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

 

Apr 17 – "We saw recently a very disturbing trend at Langley AFB, where because of a large number of UASs that were in that airspace, Langley had to close down." - Rep. Wittman

During a hearing before the US House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Rob Wittman revealed:

"We saw recently a very disturbing trend at Langley AFB, where because of a large number of UASs that were in that airspace, Langley had to close down [to defend the safety & operations of the base]."

 

Apr 17 – AARO holds a classified briefing with Members of Congress on the UAP topic

Following the AARO briefing, several Reps. (namely Burchett, Luna, and Ogles) were generally unimpressed – describing the session as a 'nothingburger'.

Rep. Garcia seemed pleased with some of the answers to his questions, although he reiterated the need for further investigation:

"I had one major question, which was answered to my satisfaction. But, I still think — I'll just reiterate my position — that we need more public hearings at the Oversight [Committee] level. We need to bring in more witnesses and have them testify. It's not like anything's resolved. [...] I'm glad there's bipartisan support and there's bipartisan lawmakers looking at this issue. And, I just want to remind people that it's a serious issue. It's not a joke."

Rep. Burlison left the session with his skepticism bolstered (i.e., that the UAP issue can be explained prosaically):

"My worldview has been very skeptical that this is extraterrestrial and that remains. There's nothing that I learned today that — in fact, probably had more validated today but, my worldview's probably more validated today." 

All sourced via AskaPol.

 

Apr 18 – FOIA documents reveal the extent of communications between David Grusch and AARO

In a FOIA release triggered by the BlackVault, more context has been provided on the extent of communications between AARO (i.e. Dr. Kirkpatrick) and UAP whistleblower David Grusch.

According to coverage from the Liberation Times:

"The documents affirmed that David Grusch, a former senior intelligence officer and whistleblower on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), deliberated on presenting testimony and evidence concerning purported U.S. government activities in the retrieval and reverse engineering of non-human materials to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), the DoD's UAP office. 

Concerns about AARO, as a third party, being exposed to information provided securely and legally by Grusch to the Intelligence Community's Inspector General and Congress, while there is an ongoing DoD IG Whistleblower Reprisal Investigation, led to his decision not to provide evidence and testimony."

While some have interpreted the documents as proof that Grusch was evading AARO's desire to hear him out, others cite it as evidence that AARO was unable to adequately address Grusch's concerns for secure transmission of UAP-related information.

 

Apr 19 – Rep. Ogles reiterates the need for a Select Committee to investigate the UAP issue

In a follow-up conversation with AskaPol, Rep. Ogles counters Rep. Burlison's skepticism by underscoring the fact that investigating alleged programs that may be nestled within Special Access Programs (SAPs) can be particularly difficult.

"That's the issue with SAPs, they are so compartmentalized that if you ask about a particular SAP, not only do you have to find the right one but you have to ask the right question. So you could literally find a bed of rocks that has the jewel that you're looking for, but if you don't turn over the right rock...the jewel's right there in front of you. And so that would be my pushback. And I think we need more digging, more investigation. [...] I think there should be a Select Committee."

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Things to look out for in the near future:

April

• According to Senator Gillibrand – a public hearing in line with AARO's latest report can be expected soon, saying –"I'll probably have another hearing aligned with that public report."

Beyond/currently unknown

• Following the UAP hearing on the 26th of July, Members of Congress have called for a select committee with subpoena authority, to "go about the task of collecting information from the Pentagon and elsewhere" on unidentified flying objects. There have been conflicting messages from various Members of Congress on whether this is likely to happen anytime soon.
  Note – a select subcommittee was formally requested on March 13th.

• Reps. Moskowitz, Luna, and Burchett have repeatedly stated their intent to hold field hearings to overcome stonewalling from the Pentagon and military establishment"I think we [Congress] should try to get into one of these places [housing UAP evidence]...and if they won't let us in I think we should have a field hearing right outside the building...and the military will have to explain why that is." – Rep. Moskowitz (D)It is currently unknown when exactly we might expect that to occur, however as of Jan 12 – Rep. Luna confirmed:"I feel confident that we have enough evidence to move forward with our first field hearing. u/mattgaetz u/JaredEMoskowitz u/timburchett . We will be announcing details soon."

• Several journalists have indicated that first-hand witnesses of the alleged UAP legacy programs are in the process of providing testimony/evidence to the relevant authorities (e.g. the IC IG) and/or are on the verge of making public statements in the near future (Example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4)

• David Grusch has received additional clearances through DOPSR to discuss some of his (alleged) first-hand knowledge of Legacy programs. He has mentioned he may be covering more of this information in an upcoming Op-Ed

• Some commentators have speculated that the architects of the UAPDA (e.g. Sens. Schumer/Rounds et al) are working diligently behind the scenes to continue furthering serious legislative UAP transparency efforts

Mainstream media:

On the tonight show starting at 13:13

 

A guardian article reporting the segment

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/22/john-oliver-ufos-uaps

Deadline

https://deadline.com/2024/04/last-week-tonight-john-oliver-jokes-hugh-jackman-ufo-tesla-cybertruck-1235891286/

SETI denying

https://www.space.com/seti-chief-bill-diamond-ufos-alien-visitation

 

 

If updates become more common again and are newsworthy, I'll make sure to keep updating, otherwise there might be silence for another few months again.

Even though it's kinda boring getting no real answers after all this time, the fact this is still being talked about a year later, it's pretty telling that this is eventually going somewhere.

 

[Magic_boXX]

This is on the front page of Dailymail

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13518373/UFO-mystery-result-advanced-stealth-civilization-living-Earth-say-Harvard-scientists-reveal-secret-bases-located.html

Quote

UFO mystery may be result of advanced 'stealth civilization' living on Earth among us, say Harvard scientists - as they reveal where their secret bases could be located

• READ MORE: Navy sub tech spots UFO 'faster than speed of sound underwater'

By MATTHEW PHELAN SENIOR SCIENCE REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 19:06 EDT, 11 June 2024 | UPDATED: 20:28 EDT, 11 June 2024

 

 

Skeptics have long questioned why UFOs, if they are alien craft, would visit Earth so often.

But two Harvard scientists suspect the beings may have been here all along.

In a new research paper, they estimate there is a one in 10 chance the true solution to the UFO mystery could be 'cryptoterrestrial' — meaning they belong to an advanced species hiding on Earth.

'While this notion may sound unlikely on first hearing, many observers are persuaded that it is at least conceivable,' the team wrote in their new study, 'not least because whole swathes of our planet remain virtually unexplored and uncharted.'

With 80 percent of our oceans unmapped, and still revealing ancient mysteries like Yonaguni Jima, the 'Japanese Atlantis,' not to mention unexplored caves and the dark side of the moon, they argue there's plenty of space for a 'stealth' civilization.

 

 

[Magic_boXX]

More and more are being revealed 

 

Quote

 

EXCLUSIVEPentagon official reveals tantalizing seven-minute encounter with glowing blue UFO - which emitted enough energy to 'power a small city'

• READ MORE: Experts have identified 'hairy UFO' that crashed in North Carolina

 

A US Department of Defense contractor's tantalizing encounter with a giant, glowing UFO has sparked 10 years of research and two patents inspired by his encounter.

Three witnesses, including that Pentagon engineer, report that they captured electronic evidence of a 'barbell' UFO, half the length of a football field, that glowed an eerie 'indigo' blue.

The craft, they said, flew silently over an old logging road in southwestern Ontario, Canada, on August 28, 2013, near where the trio had camped for a hunting trip. 

DailyMail.com spoke with the case's first investigators, who shared electronic data from the contractor's attempt to film the object — showing 'white noise' pulses in the video that recur in one-second loops identical to strobing light from the UFO itself.

 

 

 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

The 2nd hearing is happening at last this November, hopefully we get new whistleblowers or proof and stuff

 

[monologueNacafe]

Were you banned

[HungryByTheBuffet]

17 hours ago, monologueNacafe said:

Were you banned

Ofc not, I may take breaks

[Kern]

18 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

The 2nd hearing is happening at last this November, hopefully we get new whistleblowers or proof and stuff

 

Maybe finally we will find the truth about UFO…

[HungryByTheBuffet]

The 2nd U.S Congressional hearing happened earlier today

 

On 10/30/2024 at 11:49 PM, Kern said:

Maybe finally we will find the truth about UFO…

Not much new was shared at all tbh from what I've seen, more of a reaffirmation of things that have been claimed already.

Hopefully they investigate deeper, but I feel like they should have done more by now...

 

They did speak a lot about "Immaculate Constellation" an alleged secret program and these records were entered into Congressional Record w/e that means?

 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Allegedly, the next hearing will be at Senate

Also, a lot of people trump is choosing for important roles in the gov and have been very vocal about this the past year. Including the CIA director he picked who's been very outspoken about ufos since 2021, strange times but this gov might move the needle along.

 

If musk is the one to to announce it... a dystopia, and I bet he'd really want to and trump would let him...

[Magic_boXX]

Wow I just heard about it and this as well

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14084477/Pentagon-UFO-crash-commercial-airliner-New-York-bombshell-report-released.html

[Starshine]

thanks for the updates 

 

@HungryByTheBuffet I think Trump would rather take the credit instead of his lapdog Elon. I imagine the US would want to be the one to make the disclosure announcement instead of a power like China, but the thing is... UAPs are massive national security risk and neither of these countries want to admit to that. They're powerless in the grand scheme of things if UAPs can just disable their most powerful weapons, nukes. 

 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

6 hours ago, Starshine said:

thanks for the updates 

 

@HungryByTheBuffet I think Trump would rather take the credit instead of his lapdog Elon. I imagine the US would want to be the one to make the disclosure announcement instead of a power like China, but the thing is... UAPs are massive national security risk and neither of these countries want to admit to that. They're powerless in the grand scheme of things if UAPs can just disable their most powerful weapons, nukes. 

 

You're totally right but I feel like they can keep everything about the nukes classified and reveal/show the rest? Everyone will be distracted by it and everything that's been said about the nukes could stay a rumor, if that's their biggest issue... but idk, at this point I'm lowkey down for another country like China to announce an official disclosure... we need someone to just release.the.files and it seems like the pentagon is still fighting it, I'm over their fiascos, take it to the UN maybe to investigate or demand them to

I get that that maybe what they have could be truly distressing (idk if you've seen the allegedly leaked jellyfish ufo videos 1 2...) I'm only mentioning them because they were mentioned in the files in congress of the program thing, but it is what it is..

[monologueNacafe]

At this point, they can just come and abduct me

[Starshine]

8 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

You're totally right but I feel like they can keep everything about the nukes classified and reveal/show the rest? Everyone will be distracted by it and everything that's been said about the nukes could stay a rumor, if that's their biggest issue... but idk, at this point I'm lowkey down for another country like China to announce an official disclosure... we need someone to just release.the.files and it seems like the pentagon is still fighting it, I'm over their fiascos, take it to the UN maybe to investigate or demand them to

I get that that maybe what they have could be truly distressing (idk if you've seen the allegedly leaked jellyfish ufo videos 1 2...) I'm only mentioning them because they were mentioned in the files in congress of the program thing, but it is what it is..

I feel like they're shook panicking with the amount of whistleblowers coming forward. It's putting pressure on them in a way that they're just not ready to disclose yet and is just accelerating at a speed no one anticipated. In the past couple years, we went from treating UFOs as fiction in pop culture and giving witnesses tinfoil hats to discussing them in bipartisan congressional hearings like this timeline cannot get any weirder.  I think it's a double-edged sword for the US... if there's full on disclosure, they're acknowledging they possess UAP technology (reverse engineered and crypto/extraterrestrial), giving truth to the whistleblower's claims, and showing their hands to foreign enemies. Our technology that is intended to be anonymous won't be secret anymore. Nuclear weapons have their limitations to how destructive they can be, but UAPs don't, and that's terrifying if other powers have been successful at recreating it. It renders the trillions of tax dollars useless on prehistoric military tech if they're just disabled just like that.  There's clearly fragmentation within our military if there's a rogue sector of the government that doesn't communicate with anyone including the president and is dictating the course of humanity with aliens without our knowledge.  That will just dismantle public trust on all levels, if this corruption has been going on since the early 1900s. If they don't disclose, China or Russia will and take credit for this discovery, further lessening the US' power on a geopolitical scale and on the world stage. Slowly dripping info to soften the blow and pretending this is brand-new information while actively denying the whistleblowers seems to be their move. 

 

I've seen people trying to dissect the jellyfish UFO footage, and it has yet to be debunked. I've also read things about plasma beings, and weirdly, China has discovered plasma bubbles over the pyramids. I think there's just a lot for anyone to absorb, even if they came out with everything they know... people won't believe it and feed conspiracies into more conspiracies muddying the truth. That catastrophe is inevitable anyway, they should just do it. 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

1 hour ago, Starshine said:

I feel like they're shook panicking with the amount of whistleblowers coming forward. It's putting pressure on them in a way that they're just not ready to disclose yet and is just accelerating at a speed no one anticipated. In the past couple years, we went from treating UFOs as fiction in pop culture and giving witnesses tinfoil hats to discussing them in bipartisan congressional hearings like this timeline cannot get any weirder.  I think it's a double-edged sword for the US... if there's full on disclosure, they're acknowledging they possess UAP technology (reverse engineered and crypto/extraterrestrial), giving truth to the whistleblower's claims, and showing their hands to foreign enemies. Our technology that is intended to be anonymous won't be secret anymore. Nuclear weapons have their limitations to how destructive they can be, but UAPs don't, and that's terrifying if other powers have been successful at recreating it. It renders the trillions of tax dollars useless on prehistoric military tech if they're just disabled just like that.  There's clearly fragmentation within our military if there's a rogue sector of the government that doesn't communicate with anyone including the president and is dictating the course of humanity with aliens without our knowledge.  That will just dismantle public trust on all levels, if this corruption has been going on since the early 1900s. If they don't disclose, China or Russia will and take credit for this discovery, further lessening the US' power on a geopolitical scale and on the world stage. Slowly dripping info to soften the blow and pretending this is brand-new information while actively denying the whistleblowers seems to be their move. 

 

I've seen people trying to dissect the jellyfish UFO footage, and it has yet to be debunked. I've also read things about plasma beings, and weirdly, China has discovered plasma bubbles over the pyramids. I think there's just a lot for anyone to absorb, even if they came out with everything they know... people won't believe it and feed conspiracies into more conspiracies muddying the truth. That catastrophe is inevitable anyway, they should just do it. 

You're totally on point about what AARO and the Pentagon are doing. It really feels like there might be some internal faction pushing this forward from within, however. Especially with the recent incursions on U.S. soil—like the Langley incidents, if you're familiar with those. And, of course, all the objects they had to shoot down... who knows what went down there? It definitely seems like something shifted after those events.

I think China might have successfully reverse-engineered some of these crafts, which has been hinted at in some of the hearings. The U.S. seems nervous because they don't have a clear defense against it, they don't even know for sure if it's China or non-human intelligence (NHI). But the sightings are increasing, and they're becoming more aggressive.

 

The idea of something like floating, jellyfish-like AI entities that looks like it eats humans is quite far out there, I could understand why they'd hesitate to share even the basics of what they know. At the same time, this secrecy is holding them back. Different teams working on this stuff apparently aren't cooperating or sharing enough information, which is slowing progress. Meanwhile, it seems like China might've gotten ahead in understanding what's really going on which is a bad look for america lowkey

They're in this awkward spot where they don't want to admit they're behind, but they also don't want to outright deny it's happening. That probably means it'll take years for any truly better details to reach the public unless something shakes them up.

Honestly, I hope Congress or the White House forces their hand, even if it gets messy—maybe that's what it'll take to push this forward.

If someone like Trump were to announce it, who knows if everyone will believe...messy

 

 

Apparently, there's a Senate hearing this month, but it sounds like it'll focus on AARO.

https://www.askapol.com/p/sen-gillibrand-previews-senate-uap-hearing

Not sure if it'll be broadcast, though.

[Starshine]

33 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

You're totally on point about what AARO and the Pentagon are doing. It really feels like there might be some internal faction pushing this forward from within, however. Especially with the recent incursions on U.S. soil—like the Langley incidents, if you're familiar with those. And, of course, all the objects they had to shoot down... who knows what went down there? It definitely seems like something shifted after those events.

I think China might have successfully reverse-engineered some of these crafts, which has been hinted at in some of the hearings. The U.S. seems nervous because they don't have a clear defense against it, they don't even know for sure if it's China or non-human intelligence (NHI). But the sightings are increasing, and they're becoming more aggressive.

 

The idea of something like floating, jellyfish-like AI entities that looks like it eats humans is quite far out there, I could understand why they'd hesitate to share even the basics of what they know. At the same time, this secrecy is holding them back. Different teams working on this stuff apparently aren't cooperating or sharing enough information, which is slowing progress. Meanwhile, it seems like China might've gotten ahead in understanding what's really going on which is a bad look for america lowkey

They're in this awkward spot where they don't want to admit they're behind, but they also don't want to outright deny it's happening. That probably means it'll take years for any truly better details to reach the public unless something shakes them up.

Honestly, I hope Congress or the White House forces their hand, even if it gets messy—maybe that's what it'll take to push this forward.

If someone like Trump were to announce it, who knows if everyone will believe...messy

 

 

Apparently, there's a Senate hearing this month, but it sounds like it'll focus on AARO.

https://www.askapol.com/p/sen-gillibrand-previews-senate-uap-hearing

Not sure if it'll be broadcast, though.

The fact the jellyfish now has been listed as "organic" or whatever and not some bird poop on the camera a couple months ago.  I read a little about the drone objects near military site, it seems like things also escalated fast after news about the Chinese balloon back in early 2023 related or not and the many instances of these objects playing in the US' face. I think you're right that they seem nervous about this because we can't defend ourselves. The US would just be admitting to weakness. 

[Cesar]

The aliens can't be that bad since they seem to deactivate nukes. Probably just stopping us from killing the entire planet, and disturbing the balance of the universe / galaxy with these huge nukes the gov't had. If they had bad intentions of taking over, they would've already done it i feel like

[HungryByTheBuffet]

12 hours ago, Cesar said:

The aliens can't be that bad since they seem to deactivate nukes. Probably just stopping us from killing the entire planet, and disturbing the balance of the universe / galaxy with these huge nukes the gov't had. If they had bad intentions of taking over, they would've already done it i feel like

I can agree but since they seem to be neutral and not revealing themselves, they seem to be considered a threat by the gov/army, especially if all they have is evidence of them doing questionable things to humans, and the only way they have been able to produce evidence they exist is by fighting them. It might be a best case scenario that at best they are experimenting on us/using us a zoo and don't care much beyond that, compared to all the other theories. At the end of the day I'm not so sure that they have any intentions that lay with ours. They might really just be here for themselves, which would make sense overall. They do not seem to want to be seen most of the time, have their own agendas (seemingly in oceans?) who knows

 

The bleakness it paints might be the reason for the secrecy, all the unknown beyond the materials, not to mention, if they don't want us to see/bother them what happens once a lot of the world does?

idk but, ignoring them isn't going to advance our science... especially since they aren't an immediate threat seemingly and are just here

[Cesar]

2 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

I can agree but since they seem to be neutral and not revealing themselves, they seem to be considered a threat by the gov/army, especially if all they have is evidence of them doing questionable things to humans, and the only way they have been able to produce evidence they exist is by fighting them. It might be a best case scenario that at best they are experimenting on us/using us a zoo and don't care much beyond that, compared to all the other theories. At the end of the day I'm not so sure that they have any intentions that lay with ours. They might really just be here for themselves, which would make sense overall. They do not seem to want to be seen most of the time, have their own agendas (seemingly in oceans?) who knows

 

The bleakness it paints might be the reason for the secrecy, all the unknown beyond the materials, not to mention, if they don't want us to see/bother them what happens once a lot of the world does?

idk but, ignoring them isn't going to advance our science... especially since they aren't an immediate threat seemingly and are just here

If it's true that aliens started appearing once the US dropped the atomic bombs in japan. I can't imagine that they'd be too fond of the US government & others, witnessing all the chaos they released into the world. I'd like to think they have no problem with us humans, rather they dislike the system thats holding humanity back 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

On 11/17/2024 at 11:48 PM, Cesar said:

If it's true that aliens started appearing once the US dropped the atomic bombs in japan. I can't imagine that they'd be too fond of the US government & others, witnessing all the chaos they released into the world. I'd like to think they have no problem with us humans, rather they dislike the system thats holding humanity back 

I feel like they were definitely here before, the foo fighters for example was a bit before that, but even then/after I think it's less they started appearing just more so that our tech got advanced enough to see them better, track them etc. And also they allegedly like to toy with humans in their most advanced crafts, so they were probably a bit curious about our progress as well and testing our limits/just having fun since we think we're something.

 

The thing is it all seems a bit too simple to me sometimes, if they truly disliked the system we live in and wanted a better future for us why aren't we already living in it? Why are they always running from us, hiding, instead of communicating with us?

 

Sure, disabling nukes is amazing for humanity, at the same time it can be a display of power, or how powerless we are. Like taking the tiny stick away from the ant for laughs, they don't owe us anything sure, but I don't see them doing anything to show us they are similar to us in any way or that they find a relationship between us could be beneficial or cosmically fulfilling to the both of us, it just seems a bit cold.

 

I'd like to believe it's not true but I think the secrecy is there to serve them more than us and it doesn't seem that friendly on the paper. But I know there can be endless ways to interpret what has been claimed/we know that can make them seem either good/bad. So at the end of the day, my safest bet is they're just probably doing their own things here, we can't comprehend, different agendas... hope I'm wrong and they're prepping us to be their future besties sitting right by them at the galactic federation sessions but it's not the vibe I'm getting for some reason... I'm getting the vibe we're more of a toy

but I change a lot about this

 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

 I don't have time rn to look deeper into what was said but the senate hearing happened today a few hours ago, it can be watched here

It seems to have gotten mixed reactions since it's mostly AARO testifying, who are literally the pentagon acting like it's investigating itself.

AARO is mega shady, kinda bordering on villainies for the past 2 years as in relates to things like whistleblowers, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, breaking law, massive conflict of interests etc, in case anyone missed, but enough about that

 

 

 

[Bloodflowers.]

Whats the tea on aliens disabling nukes?

[Cesar]

4 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

I feel like they were definitely here before, the foo fighters for example was a bit before that, but even then/after I think it's less they started appearing just more so that our tech got advanced enough to see them better, track them etc. And also they allegedly like to toy with humans in their most advanced crafts, so they were probably a bit curious about our progress as well and testing our limits/just having fun since we think we're something.

 

The thing is it all seems a bit too simple to me sometimes, if they truly disliked the system we live in and wanted a better future for us why aren't we already living in it? Why are they always running from us, hiding, instead of communicating with us?

 

Sure, disabling nukes is amazing for humanity, at the same time it can be a display of power, or how powerless we are. Like taking the tiny stick away from the ant for laughs, they don't owe us anything sure, but I don't see them doing anything to show us they are similar to us in any way or that they find a relationship between us could be beneficial or cosmically fulfilling to the both of us, it just seems a bit cold.

 

I'd like to believe it's not true but I think the secrecy is there to serve them more than us and it doesn't seem that friendly on the paper. But I know there can be endless ways to interpret what has been claimed/we know that can make them seem either good/bad. So at the end of the day, my safest bet is they're just probably doing their own things here, we can't comprehend, different agendas... hope I'm wrong and they're prepping us to be their future besties sitting right by them at the galactic federation sessions but it's not the vibe I'm getting for some reason... I'm getting the vibe we're more of a toy

but I change a lot about this

 

What if they contact us subconsciously, adding thoughts into our consciousness, they are higher dimensional beings (?) after all. 

[FLAallday]

18 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said:

Whats the tea on aliens disabling nukes?

Yeah link?  I need more of this tea

[HealerKirby]

14 hours ago, FLAallday said:

Yeah link?  I need more of this tea

I found this artice that has links to other related documentaries too: https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-do-ufo-sightings-keep-happening-near-nuclear-sites/