discussion UFOs/UAPs Base Thread | U.S. Mass Mysterious 'Drone' Sightings

September 18, 2023

Any new tea?

September 19, 2023

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James Webb telescope sees potential signs of alien life in the atmosphere of a distant 'Goldilocks' water world

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By Harry Baker
published 4 days ago

NASA's James Webb Space Telescope has detected potential traces of dimethyl sulfide, a chemical only known to be created by phytoplankton on Earth, in the atmosphere of an exoplanet believed to have its own liquid ocean.

An artist's interpretation of the potentially ocean-covered exoplanet K2-18 b, which is around 120 light-years from Earth. (Image credit: NASA, CSA, ESA, J. Olmsted (STScI))

Earlier this week, Live Science reported that NASA's James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) could likely detect signs of extraterrestrial life on an Earth-like planet up to 50 light-years away. Now, a new study reveals that the state-of-the-art spacecraft may have already spotted one such hint of life — "alien farts" — in the atmosphere of a potentially ocean-covered "Goldilocks" world more than twice as far away.

The exoplanet in question, K2-18 b, is a sub-Neptune planet (between the size of Earth and Neptune) that orbits in the habitable zone around a red dwarf star roughly 120 light-years from the sun. K2-18 b, which is around 8.6 times more massive than our planet and around 2.6 times as wide, was first discovered by NASA's Kepler telescope in 2015. And in 2018, NASA's Hubble telescope discovered water in the exoplanet's atmosphere.

https://www.livescience.com/space/exoplanets/james-webb-telescope-sees-potential-signs-of-alien-life-in-the-atmosphere-of-a-distant-goldilocks-water-world

September 19, 2023

On 9/17/2023 at 2:07 AM, shyboi said:

I can tell that you are joking but this is serious for me sis

Sorry luv, I #BelieveKesha always :heart2:

On 9/17/2023 at 3:42 AM, Magic_boXX said:

Well some religion believe that Aliens are actually demons. And more people are starting to believe that some of these beings are not coming from the sky but our oceans. Because we only know about 5% of our ocean floors. Im about to go on a little rabbit hole. Which I find very interesting, which might tie into this flat earth theory(which I don't believe).

So during the whole trying to find Nimrod(Who is the giant that tried to build the Tower of Babel)expedition, when they came to Antartica they've discovered something

https://theserapeum.com/antarctica-the-outer-space-beyond-the-ice-wall-surrounding-our-world/

That site goes very deep.

Long story short they space is an ocean that is held back by the firmament and basically nothing can come in nor out. I think Albert Einstein Theorized that space is an ocean.

23 hours ago, Magic_boXX said:

haha when I saw it was was confusing but the firmament is basically a biblical terminology for a DOME.

Ngl I'm very confused but this is a fun one let me google this following by the keyword "Reddit" and enter a lil rabbit hole... :lakitu:

so is the theory sandbox universe? and the massive space we see in our galaxy and beyond is basically rendered and fake?

idk about it all, I def can't believe in a flat earth since we live in a world in which people are free to (and do) make small cameras fly out our solar system just to see the earth... if earth was flat after all I would def believe we are basically a petri dish :deadbanana: I mean the universe probably is one anyway but yeah

23 hours ago, Frappucino said:

Trump said Bidet is trying to plunge us into a world war... are they trying to go to war with the aliens?

screaming @Bidet :skull: I think a war with the aliens would be a legitimate enough reason for a new franchise ditching the "world war" title, where is the creative direction at the white house?

5 hours ago, stupidjock said:

Any new tea?

There's been like a 90% spike in deniers/violent skeptics online, disinformation campaign in full force me thinks... but here's what I've seen

NASA tried saying they've "debunked" the famous USS Nimitz UFO incident because they decided to research it using 90% less data about the incident than is available, scientists were quick to doubt x (i know it dailymail but that's what we get when all media is terrified about doubting DoD/NASA) - this all happened after they were forced to reveal the new director of their new UFO program after backlash - a man who's directly involved with the DoD
Some scientist experts from very known universities in the U.S are allegedly busy researching the Mexico-peru aliens
Peru is apparently mad & upset Mexico took their aliens & credit - they've launched an official criminal investigation

Recap of previous and upcoming OFFICAL stuff:

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September 12th – Mexican lawmakers heard testimony that "we are not alone" in the universe and saw alleged remains of non-human beings that remain unconfirmed

A hearing on UAP/NHI is held in Mexican congress. While the event did reveal previously unseen footage of UAP, the event most notably included the unveiling of alleged non-human/alien bodies. These bodies have been mired in controversy since their original unveiling some years ago. A peer-reviewed study of the body composition is not yet available.

Ryan Graves, who was in attendance, regarded the event as a significant step backwards in the UAP issue.

September 14th – NASA shares the UAP Independent Study Report and hosts an accompanying public press conference

NASA hosts a UAP press conference to discuss the findings of its UAP Independent Study Report. The independent study team’s overall recommendation for NASA from its report is that the agency can play a prominent role in the government’s effort to understand UAP by furthering the study and data collection of UAP.

NASA appointed Mark McInerney as its new director of UAP research. McInerney previously served as NASA’s liaison to the Department of Defense covering limited UAP activities for the agency.

“The top takeaway from the study is that there is a lot more to learn. The NASA study did not find any evidence that UAP have an extraterrestrial origin, but we don’t know what these UAP are.” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson.

September 14th – Rep. Anna Paulina Luna confirms there will be more public UAP hearings in the near future, while a Select Committee remains out of reach

“Just got word that we will not be getting the UAP select committee. However, we will be getting another hearing. @ timburchett is working on dates. Also, we are still working on SCIF for Grusch." reads a message Rep. Luna tweeted on Sep 14.

September 15th – IC IG Thomas Monheim responds to Members of Congress regarding their questions on David Grusch's whistleblower claims

IC IG Thomas Monheim provided this letter in response to the request submitted in August by Members of Congress.

The letter specifically states the IC IG has not conducted any "audit, inspection, evaluation, or review" of alleged UAP programs. Notably – this specific phrasing correlates precisely to the IC IG's official taxonomy and divisional structure, with one glaring omission: investigation.

Rep. Burchett was not pleased with what he viewed to be a complete non-answer to his questions, and saw it as more evidence of a 'cover-up'. If the IC IG were in the midst of an active investigation into these alleged UAP programs however, he would be justified in keeping details to a minimum until the investigation is concluded.

September 16th – Oversight Chair Comer on UAP Select Committee: "If it was voted on today, I would vote for it"

Seemingly at odds with statements made by Reps. Burchett and Luna earlier this week, Oversight Chair Comer tells Matt Laslo the following:

he understands there's a large demand for a UAP Select Committee to independently dig into the veracity of UAP whistleblower claims

he'd vote for a UAP Select Committee if such a vote happened today

he believes it should be under the House Committee on Science, Space and Tech

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Things to look out for in the near future:

September

Following the UAP hearing on the 26th of July, Members of Congress continue to call for a select committee with subpoena authority, to “go about the task of collecting information from the Pentagon and elsewhere” on unidentified flying objects.

Steven Spielberg's production company will launch a 4 part docu-series covering UAP/UFO Encounters on Netflix on September 27th (Link)

November

The SOL Foundation is holding its first annual conference at Stanford University on November 17-19, 2023. Covering everything from the scientific study of UAP data to philosophical questions raised by it to related global security issues, the meeting brings together Avi Loeb, Charles McCullough, Cristopher Mellon, Garry Nolan, Jacques Vallée, and other leading academic and government voices on UAP.

Beyond/currently unknown

While the US Senate passed the NDAA for FY24 – which included the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 as an amendment – the coming months will still require Senators and Members of Congress to reconcile the two chambers’ versions of the NDAA and produce a final compromise bill. Most commentators don't expect this to happen before December 2023.

According to Senator Gillibrand – an updated UAP report from AARO can be expected by January 2024. This update was originally expected in August 2023, but faced delays.

Reps. Moskowitz, Luna, and Burchett have repeatedly stated their intent to hold field hearings to overcome stonewalling from the Pentagon and military establishment – "I think we [Congress] should try to get into one of these places [housing UAP evidence]...and if they won't let us in I think we should have a field hearing right outside the building...and the military will have to explain why that is." – Rep. Moskowitz (D). It is currently unknown when we might expect that to occur.

Several journalists have indicated that first-hand witnesses of the alleged UAP legacy programs are in the process of providing testimony/evidence to the relevant authorities (e.g. the IC IG) and/or are on the verge of making public statements in the near future (Example 1, example 2, example 3)

An interesting email a redditor says he got back from Senator Mike Crapo after sending a letter concerning UFO-alien transparency, basically saying the usual things but very straightforward forward "we can't tell you about non-human intelligence bc national security" I wonder if there's really any truth to it... like that they know for a fact disclosing the truth will lead to a direct response of some sort from the NHI, or it's just the usual national security excuse...

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Thank you for contacting me regarding the inclusion of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Disclosure Act included in the Fiscal Year (FY) 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). I share your support for government transparency and welcome the opportunity to respond.

The UAP Disclosure Act, which was introduced as an amendment to the FY 2024 NDAA, would increase transparency with records and materials around UAP and other related scientific research by the U.S. Government. This amendment was included in the Senate-passed version of the FY 2024 NDAA. The Senate and the House of Representatives are now in conference to negotiate a final version of the NDAA.

Relatedly, on July 26, the House Oversight Committee held a hearing on UAP and extra-terrestrial life. This hearing included testimony from former intelligence official David Grusch and other space agency personnel. During the testimony, Mr. Grusch made shocking claims that the U.S. government was currently in possession of extra-terrestrial bodies.

It is troubling to see continuing allegations of mismanagement of information by government intelligence organizations related to UAPs and non-human intelligences, and further questions need to be addressed with full government transparency. Intelligence agencies must respect the legal protections afforded to all whistleblowers. If an individual files a whistleblower complaint with the respective Office of an Inspector General, they are then provided with special whistleblower protections per federal law. These protections must be upheld.

At this time, most potential information regarding extra-terrestrial life has been determined to be outside of the general public interest and is therefore classified. However, Members of Congress continue to ask for more answers on behalf of constituents and additional hearings on this subject may continue in the near future. Should potential threats or related legislation be considered by the full Senate, I will keep your thoughts in mind. It is imperative our government is transparent with information that must be known for our citizens, and I have faith security agencies will release information when public safety is no longer in jeopardy.

Again, thank you for contacting me. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughtful observations with me as it is essential for me to know of the concerns of all Idahoans. Please feel free to contact me in the future on matters of interest to you. You can also find more information about what is going on in the U.S. Senate as well as news releases, photos and other items at my Senate website, https://www.crapo.senate.gov .

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53 minutes ago, Magic_boXX said:

https://www.livescience.com/space/exoplanets/james-webb-telescope-sees-potential-signs-of-alien-life-in-the-atmosphere-of-a-distant-goldilocks-water-world

I keep seeing articles like this in local AND global news... like last month they did it a lot too... interesting timing for sure...

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66786611

The way the material that only exists in life that they found read like DMT to me for a sec....

Korea, we just want the ******* truth!

September 19, 2023

7 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Sorry luv, I #BelieveKesha always

Ngl I'm very confused but this is a fun one let me google this following by the keyword "Reddit" and enter a lil rabbit hole...

so is the theory sandbox universe? and the massive space we see in our galaxy and beyond is basically rendered and fake?

idk about it all, I def can't believe in a flat earth since we live in a world in which people are free to (and do) make small cameras fly out our solar system just to see the earth... if earth was flat after all I would def believe we are basically a petri dish I mean the universe probably is one anyway but yeah

screaming @Bidet I think a war with the aliens would be a legitimate enough reason for a new franchise ditching the "world war" title, where is the creative direction at the white house?

There's been like a 90% spike in deniers/violent skeptics online, disinformation campaign in full force me thinks... but here's what I've seen

NASA tried saying they've "debunked" the famous USS Nimitz UFO incident because they decided to research it using 90% less data about the incident than is available, scientists were quick to doubt x (i know it dailymail but that's what we get when all media is terrified about doubting DoD/NASA) - this all happened after they were forced to reveal the new director of their new UFO program after backlash - a man who's directly involved with the DoD

Some scientist experts from very known universities in the U.S are allegedly busy researching the Mexico-peru aliens

Peru is apparently mad & upset Mexico took their aliens & credit - they've launched an official criminal investigation

Recap of previous and upcoming OFFICAL stuff:

An interesting email a redditor says he got back from Senator Mike Crapo after sending a letter concerning UFO-alien transparency, basically saying the usual things but very straightforward forward "we can't tell you about non-human intelligence bc national security" I wonder if there's really any truth to it... like that they know for a fact disclosing the truth will lead to a direct response of some sort from the NHI, or it's just the usual national security excuse...

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I keep seeing articles like this in local AND global news... like last month they did it a lot too... interesting timing for sure...

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66786611

The way the material that only exists in life that they found read like DMT to me for a sec....

Korea, we just want the ******* truth!

Loving the copy-paste and then a link to excatly this

September 19, 2023

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if yes, there are aliens, but they're also taking the piss out of us with all this bs. Like.... Peru is mad Mexico is claiming THAT? :emofish: The math ain't mathing, its starting to look like astrology at this point!

September 19, 2023

9 minutes ago, Frappucino said:

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if yes, there are aliens, but they're also taking the piss out of us with all this bs. Like.... Peru is mad Mexico is claiming THAT? The math ain't mathing, its starting to look like astrology at this point!

The way I'm so bipolar about this, like today I woke up feeling like it's probably just U.S military secret tech they're hiding from enemies and the public and are purposely entertaining the aliens ideas to push the public further away from the truth... like maybe they've came up with crafts that can turn fully invisible or some crazy thing like that and they're just like we musT keep this fun twist hidden to pop out during WW3 or smth :emofish:

but yeah the peru-mexico thing is from here X (dailymail so take this as your recommended daily intake of grained sodium)

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Culture Minister Leslie Urteaga said they are looking into how the bodies, which she described as pre-Hispanic objects, left Peru and says a criminal complaint has been filed.

But who knows, at the end of the day U.S gov gots some explaining to do when this all comes to a head, I can't remember something as unhinged as this addressed by so many bodies of the gov, being a bipartisan issue for Congress, most important senators in the gov getting involved, "non-human intelligence disclosure" entering into the NDAA law, AARO being a thing, NASA getting involved...the CIA whistleblowers ofc, etc etc... if this is all to **** with their own population someone lowkey needs to pay?... mexico and peru are just chasing the hype me thinks so I can't blame them too much if it's all fake... U.S on the other hand, the way this would the biggest psyop to ever occur and for what?

time... the ultimate truth teller :bird:

(it's probably aliens tho)

The debrief (broke the story of Grusch) published this interesting article today which def would make the most sense to me if it is aliens, though I find it the most boring if it ends up being just that, I want it to be more than just boring aliens a.i crafts
https://thedebrief.org/stealth-extraterrestrial-ai-probes-reconsidering-the-uap-mystery/

September 20, 2023

Part of me thinks that aliens have kinda already invaded the planet and that's the "war" that they're trying to hype up. It's like Avatar the Last Airbender, that episode when they found out that the Earth kingdom didn't know there was a war going on. :tornado:

If the aliens have truly already taken over tho I want my own Stitch. :celestial3:

September 20, 2023

As above so below

in our oceans there is “alien” life

September 20, 2023

The more and more I think about it, what if Aliens are coming from the sea? The way they always somewhat crash could be them not use to navigating through the sky because of the different pressure. Their eyes look similar to the creatures that are deep in the sea, their skin are gray like they've never been exposed to the sun. Just a thought. But then again they are different spicies of aliens, like the grey,reptilians ect

They explain them here as well

https://www.etspecies.com/various-ets

Just soo much to think of

Btw I also just listened to this podcast about Do UFO Sightings Signal A Pending Spiritual War?

https://mysteriousradio.com/podcast/mysterious-radio-paranormal-ufo-lore-interviews/episode/do-ufo-sightings-signal-a-pending-spiritual-war

It was really good one making me really think

September 22, 2023

Any new tea?

September 22, 2023

On 9/20/2023 at 3:43 AM, Frappucino said:

Part of me thinks that aliens have kinda already invaded the planet and that's the "war" that they're trying to hype up. It's like Avatar the Last Airbender, that episode when they found out that the Earth kingdom didn't know there was a war going on.

If the aliens have truly already taken over tho I want my own Stitch.

Kinda like that Marvel show Secret Invasion (I know nothing about it but I'm guessing that's what it's about lmaoo)

I will say it's interesting when you realize that NASA and CIA have been heavily involved with Hollywood sci-fi productions for some reason, like there's that thing about NASA writing a 20 pages letter to Steven Spielberg asking him not to release Encounters of the Third Kind, and the CIA has a whole department dealing with the ways UFOs, E.Ts, DoD, Pentagon, etc, are portrayed and shown in movies... unrelated I know but just came to mind

I pray you get your stitch in this lifetime! I think my parallel equivalent is flying to space, wish we could @ the E.Ts and let them know it better be happeninG

On 9/20/2023 at 3:49 AM, Cheers said:

As above so below

in our oceans there is “alien” life

On 9/20/2023 at 4:49 AM, Magic_boXX said:

The more and more I think about it, what if Aliens are coming from the sea? The way they always somewhat crash could be them not use to navigating through the sky because of the different pressure. Their eyes look similar to the creatures that are deep in the sea, their skin are gray like they've never been exposed to the sun. Just a thought. But then again they are different spicies of aliens, like the grey,reptilians ect

They explain them here as well

https://www.etspecies.com/various-ets

Just soo much to think of

Btw I also just listened to this podcast about Do UFO Sightings Signal A Pending Spiritual War?

https://mysteriousradio.com/podcast/mysterious-radio-paranormal-ufo-lore-interviews/episode/do-ufo-sightings-signal-a-pending-spiritual-war

It was really good one making me really think

Have you guys ever thought what if they come from water but also from outer space like from a planet that's entirely oceans? maybe it's their natural habitat but they still came from outer space?

for some reason, I've shifted to thinking that if they do originate from our world and dimension etc, they're from DEEP DEEP down in the inner layers of earth... like a shadow underground biome-sphere type thing if you guys ever read those theories...

But I think most likely if they originate here they're probably just on a different plane of existence in this condensed ball of energy in this condensed energy of this galaxy as we see it? I mean we use terms like dimensions and planes but the jist of it is we (and most life we can see on this earth) develop their senses (usually the classic 5) to navigate our very specific physical materialist reality, but it's just what is, what exists, it doesn't mean there's an objective "final truth" to it beyond the fact it is how it presents to us...

surely there would be ways to create sensors and mechanics to present to us the information we're seeking in forms we understand though, like we've done with basically all tech...

https://www.science.org/content/article/shadow-biosphere-might-be-hiding-strange-life-right-under-our-noses

https://bigthink.com/life/shadow-biosphere/

Haven't checked out the links and podcast yet will soon! but usually, I've seen people imply the grays might be bio-A.i suits created purposely and especially to interact with our own earth, but are not the actual NHI, rather disposable "mission" A.I life forms.

But it could also just be how some people interpreted them...

Ngl there's the obvious link to dolphins who are super smart... the grays do sorta look like a mix between humans and dolphins... and dolphins do have a habit of trying to R word humans... what if thats what ended up creating the grays a long time ago? lmao ok im done with my usual rumblings :skull:

YALL im really sleep deprived and writing on a shitty laptop excuse my more than usual incoherence and shitty grammar

11 hours ago, stupidjock said:

Any new tea?

There seems to be a ton of fighting back right now in a sea of no new positive information or development

Apparently, there are ongoing attempts to shut down and canceL the UAP Disclosure bill

Yesterday there was a closed private hearing between NASA and Congress to discuss their flop "report" - Rep. Tim was not pleased

Mexican Congress has requested UNAM to perform a peer review process on the potential 'alien bodies' presented during the Mexican UFO Hearing.

As unfortunate as it sounds, it's beginning to seem as if only massive political change can lead to transparency about what we truly know or conclude regarding these UFOs, fortunately, people are already on that too

Or, glass half full - it's just taking a step back at the moment before taking 2 more steps forward, that seems to be the usual pace since this all started, if we let it rest for 2 weeks or a month no doubt we'll get yet another bombshell of some sort, I think the biggest upcoming thing will be the next U.S congressional hearing if it doesn't get attempted cancelleT too, if it happens and the first-hand experience whistleblower who worked in the legacy UFO program comes out beforehand and maybe gets to testify it would be groundbreaking for sure

but I think right now that's where we're at! not much going on

Loving the enthusiasm though btw!! lmao

it's good to have a good base in here cause a lot of the casuals who come and go but don't read into the things actually going on and just crap on the subject did not make me want to post any more updates back then lol, I know there's a lot of theories/conspiracies posted here too but that's a given - where there is secrecy there are conspiracies, and this is what this whole thing is about, truth is the best disinfectant.. and time? well you already know... is the ultimate truth teller.

Edited September 22, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet

September 22, 2023

Oh apparently this also happened today, the ocean origins girlies just keep winning @Magic_boXX @Cheers

September 22, 2023

Unrelated rumblings but all the A.I stuff, like so many world leaders gathering, all the rich tech guys, etc, U.N, etc, to discuss A.I risks and limitations (which is impossible to implement because another non-western country will just keep developing) all this scary talk from A.I devs and the people who literally made the thing, and now this recent talk about AGI predicted to be created by 2028, with people saying it's basically a coin flip whether it destroys us, the world is basically reacting to this in similar ways it did to the creation of nuclear weapons :mazen: what if we ****** ourselves and this terminator esque A.I drones can travel throughout space-time fabric and are gathering all the data they can about their creators who are no more...

just a fun thought... here's some articles to go along with it

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-04-09/artificial-intelligence-the-aliens-have-landed-and-we-created-them

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/most-aliens-may-be-artificial-intelligence-not-life-as-we-know-it/

https://www.wionews.com/science/aliens-likely-to-make-first-contact-with-ai-not-humans-claims-harvard-professor-605545

and some videos to get into my current state of mind

:mazen:

September 23, 2023

18 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Kinda like that Marvel show Secret Invasion (I know nothing about it but I'm guessing that's what it's about lmaoo)

I will say it's interesting when you realize that NASA and CIA have been heavily involved with Hollywood sci-fi productions for some reason, like there's that thing about NASA writing a 20 pages letter to Steven Spielberg asking him not to release Encounters of the Third Kind, and the CIA has a whole department dealing with the ways UFOs, E.Ts, DoD, Pentagon, etc, are portrayed and shown in movies... unrelated I know but just came to mind

I pray you get your stitch in this lifetime! I think my parallel equivalent is flying to space, wish we could @ the E.Ts and let them know it better be happeninG

Have you guys ever thought what if they come from water but also from outer space like from a planet that's entirely oceans? maybe it's their natural habitat but they still came from outer space?

for some reason, I've shifted to thinking that if they do originate from our world and dimension etc, they're from DEEP DEEP down in the inner layers of earth... like a shadow underground biome-sphere type thing if you guys ever read those theories...

But I think most likely if they originate here they're probably just on a different plane of existence in this condensed ball of energy in this condensed energy of this galaxy as we see it? I mean we use terms like dimensions and planes but the jist of it is we (and most life we can see on this earth) develop their senses (usually the classic 5) to navigate our very specific physical materialist reality, but it's just what is, what exists, it doesn't mean there's an objective "final truth" to it beyond the fact it is how it presents to us...

surely there would be ways to create sensors and mechanics to present to us the information we're seeking in forms we understand though, like we've done with basically all tech...

https://www.science.org/content/article/shadow-biosphere-might-be-hiding-strange-life-right-under-our-noses

https://bigthink.com/life/shadow-biosphere/

Haven't checked out the links and podcast yet will soon! but usually, I've seen people imply the grays might be bio-A.i suits created purposely and especially to interact with our own earth, but are not the actual NHI, rather disposable "mission" A.I life forms.

But it could also just be how some people interpreted them...

Ngl there's the obvious link to dolphins who are super smart... the grays do sorta look like a mix between humans and dolphins... and dolphins do have a habit of trying to R word humans... what if thats what ended up creating the grays a long time ago? lmao ok im done with my usual rumblings

YALL im really sleep deprived and writing on a shitty laptop excuse my more than usual incoherence and shitty grammar

There seems to be a ton of fighting back right now in a sea of no new positive information or development

Apparently, there are ongoing attempts to shut down and canceL the UAP Disclosure bill

Yesterday there was a closed private hearing between NASA and Congress to discuss their flop "report" - Rep. Tim was not pleased

Mexican Congress has requested UNAM to perform a peer review process on the potential 'alien bodies' presented during the Mexican UFO Hearing.

As unfortunate as it sounds, it's beginning to seem as if only massive political change can lead to transparency about what we truly know or conclude regarding these UFOs, fortunately, people are already on that too

Or, glass half full - it's just taking a step back at the moment before taking 2 more steps forward, that seems to be the usual pace since this all started, if we let it rest for 2 weeks or a month no doubt we'll get yet another bombshell of some sort, I think the biggest upcoming thing will be the next U.S congressional hearing if it doesn't get attempted cancelleT too, if it happens and the first-hand experience whistleblower who worked in the legacy UFO program comes out beforehand and maybe gets to testify it would be groundbreaking for sure

but I think right now that's where we're at! not much going on

Loving the enthusiasm though btw!! lmao

it's good to have a good base in here cause a lot of the casuals who come and go but don't read into the things actually going on and just crap on the subject did not make me want to post any more updates back then lol, I know there's a lot of theories/conspiracies posted here too but that's a given - where there is secrecy there are conspiracies, and this is what this whole thing is about, truth is the best disinfectant.. and time? well you already know... is the ultimate truth teller.

Not to quote your whole post (I’m on the phone) but if time is such ultimate truth teller then how long will to be? Because when you think about it… we tend to look to the future instead of history. People are not doing enough research on what have already happened - and before internet or even cameras.. how come the time has not yet come or what if it came already and we just don’t have data on it because of lack of research?? I think aliens- in a extra dimensional sense- has been already experienced

September 23, 2023

5 minutes ago, stupidjock said:

Not to quote your whole post (I’m on the phone) but if time is such ultimate truth teller then how long will to be? Because when you think about it… we tend to look to the future instead of history. People are not doing enough research on what have already happened - and before internet or even cameras.. how come the time has not yet come or what if it came already and we just don’t have data on it because of lack of research?? I think aliens- in a extra dimensional sense- has been already experienced

i agrih but it's kind of a spooky thought because what if a great reset happens every time we find out and that's why our current civ is unaware and everyone keeps all we know a top secret so hard? kinda lends itself to the prison/experiment planet

On a more positive outlook maybe old lost civilizations who've made the same discoveries of NHI actually happily left to space while leaving some scattered "lesser" nontechnological humans in other parts of the world behind that led to the world we live in today... in that case hopefully they are back to fetch us :chick1:

Maybe hybrid politics has recently advanced enough to make them realize it was kinda **** leaving us behind here

But i agree, we only have a blink of a second of proper technological recollection of our history with "proof" on this planet while most literature, scribings, etc, that don't fit in with current recent scientific understandings are immediately regarded as fantasy, religion, cultural beliefs, gods and idols, etc.

Like researching the ancient Egyptian civs is wild crazy, especially since their "tech" (or however we would call their machines) and how they did the things they did are unexplained.

Meanwhile, all our proper current recorded history shows the metallic orbs have always been observed, in particular starting from WW2 and onwards as aviation technology bloomed and there were proper sensors to see track and record them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

Imagine if something like this happened today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C.,_UFO_incident

we'd have undeniable proof and noise on the internet that would lead to proper conclusions me thinks.

September 23, 2023

On 9/19/2023 at 9:49 PM, Magic_boXX said:

The more and more I think about it, what if Aliens are coming from the sea? The way they always somewhat crash could be them not use to navigating through the sky because of the different pressure. Their eyes look similar to the creatures that are deep in the sea, their skin are gray like they've never been exposed to the sun. Just a thought. But then again they are different spicies of aliens, like the grey,reptilians ect

They explain them here as well

https://www.etspecies.com/various-ets

Just soo much to think of

Btw I also just listened to this podcast about Do UFO Sightings Signal A Pending Spiritual War?

https://mysteriousradio.com/podcast/mysterious-radio-paranormal-ufo-lore-interviews/episode/do-ufo-sightings-signal-a-pending-spiritual-war

It was really good one making me really think

19 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Have you guys ever thought what if they come from water but also from outer space like from a planet that's entirely oceans? maybe it's their natural habitat but they still came from outer space?

for some reason, I've shifted to thinking that if they do originate from our world and dimension etc, they're from DEEP DEEP down in the inner layers of earth... like a shadow underground biome-sphere type thing if you guys ever read those theories...

Ngl there's the obvious link to dolphins who are super smart... the grays do sorta look like a mix between humans and dolphins... and dolphins do have a habit of trying to R word humans... what if thats what ended up creating the grays a long time ago? lmao ok im done with my usual rumblings

14 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Oh apparently this also happened today, the ocean origins girlies just keep winning @Magic_boXX @Cheers

And then this explains "mermaid" sightings as well.

September 23, 2023

21 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Kinda like that Marvel show Secret Invasion (I know nothing about it but I'm guessing that's what it's about lmaoo)

I will say it's interesting when you realize that NASA and CIA have been heavily involved with Hollywood sci-fi productions for some reason, like there's that thing about NASA writing a 20 pages letter to Steven Spielberg asking him not to release Encounters of the Third Kind, and the CIA has a whole department dealing with the ways UFOs, E.Ts, DoD, Pentagon, etc, are portrayed and shown in movies... unrelated I know but just came to mind

I pray you get your stitch in this lifetime! I think my parallel equivalent is flying to space, wish we could @ the E.Ts and let them know it better be happeninG

Have you guys ever thought what if they come from water but also from outer space like from a planet that's entirely oceans? maybe it's their natural habitat but they still came from outer space?

for some reason, I've shifted to thinking that if they do originate from our world and dimension etc, they're from DEEP DEEP down in the inner layers of earth... like a shadow underground biome-sphere type thing if you guys ever read those theories...

But I think most likely if they originate here they're probably just on a different plane of existence in this condensed ball of energy in this condensed energy of this galaxy as we see it? I mean we use terms like dimensions and planes but the jist of it is we (and most life we can see on this earth) develop their senses (usually the classic 5) to navigate our very specific physical materialist reality, but it's just what is, what exists, it doesn't mean there's an objective "final truth" to it beyond the fact it is how it presents to us...

surely there would be ways to create sensors and mechanics to present to us the information we're seeking in forms we understand though, like we've done with basically all tech...

https://www.science.org/content/article/shadow-biosphere-might-be-hiding-strange-life-right-under-our-noses

https://bigthink.com/life/shadow-biosphere/

Haven't checked out the links and podcast yet will soon! but usually, I've seen people imply the grays might be bio-A.i suits created purposely and especially to interact with our own earth, but are not the actual NHI, rather disposable "mission" A.I life forms.

But it could also just be how some people interpreted them...

Ngl there's the obvious link to dolphins who are super smart... the grays do sorta look like a mix between humans and dolphins... and dolphins do have a habit of trying to R word humans... what if thats what ended up creating the grays a long time ago? lmao ok im done with my usual rumblings

YALL im really sleep deprived and writing on a shitty laptop excuse my more than usual incoherence and shitty grammar

There seems to be a ton of fighting back right now in a sea of no new positive information or development

Apparently, there are ongoing attempts to shut down and canceL the UAP Disclosure bill

Yesterday there was a closed private hearing between NASA and Congress to discuss their flop "report" - Rep. Tim was not pleased

Mexican Congress has requested UNAM to perform a peer review process on the potential 'alien bodies' presented during the Mexican UFO Hearing.

As unfortunate as it sounds, it's beginning to seem as if only massive political change can lead to transparency about what we truly know or conclude regarding these UFOs, fortunately, people are already on that too

Or, glass half full - it's just taking a step back at the moment before taking 2 more steps forward, that seems to be the usual pace since this all started, if we let it rest for 2 weeks or a month no doubt we'll get yet another bombshell of some sort, I think the biggest upcoming thing will be the next U.S congressional hearing if it doesn't get attempted cancelleT too, if it happens and the first-hand experience whistleblower who worked in the legacy UFO program comes out beforehand and maybe gets to testify it would be groundbreaking for sure

but I think right now that's where we're at! not much going on

Loving the enthusiasm though btw!! lmao

it's good to have a good base in here cause a lot of the casuals who come and go but don't read into the things actually going on and just crap on the subject did not make me want to post any more updates back then lol, I know there's a lot of theories/conspiracies posted here too but that's a given - where there is secrecy there are conspiracies, and this is what this whole thing is about, truth is the best disinfectant.. and time? well you already know... is the ultimate truth teller.

I've heard about other planets with hostel environments support life because when have places on our own planet that have microbes on them. I wouldn't be surprised at all. But I want full blown intelligent life forms. hahah

16 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Oh apparently this also happened today, the ocean origins girlies just keep winning @Magic_boXX @Cheers

Im telling you!!! I believe they are from our oceans. with stories of Atlantis and other underwater stories, they have to be some sort of civilization underwater.

September 23, 2023

2 hours ago, Cheers said:

And then this explains "mermaid" sightings as well.

September 23, 2023

34 minutes ago, Magic_boXX said:

Did she just say there are black holes in the ocean because the ocean is actually outer space? I know it's tiktok so everything happens fast but im gonna need a line of ketamine to deal with this video fr, lmao

but she has a point, what if water itself is alive and consciously created all the life that came from it? :thing:

September 24, 2023

Wow I never heard that one before! It's interesting the different frequencies change the water crystallization.

September 24, 2023

i recall there was someone who posted on 4chan or something a while ago who allegedly worked on some programs and they exposed a lot of things that seems to align with what the whistleblowers have been saying and the poster said that the NHI had a base underwater which would explains why those objects are going in and out of the ocean

September 24, 2023

43 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

i recall there was someone who posted on 4chan or something a while ago who allegedly worked on some programs and they exposed a lot of things that seems to align with what the whistleblowers have been saying and the poster said that the NHI had a base underwater which would explains why those objects are going in and out of the ocean

That was me like most of the time lol, that whole thing happened just before Grusch came out and everything started getting a ton of momentum

Whether real or fake, it's a super entertaining read so I recommend it to everyone, and so far it all adds up with what's happening which is quite insane

The 4 chan "leaker":

https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN

September 24, 2023

11 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

That was me like most of the time lol, that whole thing happened just before Grusch came out and everything started getting a ton of momentum

Whether real or fake, it's a super entertaining read so I recommend it to everyone, and so far it all adds up with what's happening which is quite insane

The 4 chan "leaker":

https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN

yea i read the whole thing before the hearings and even what they said during it aligns with the 4chan post even with the color of the objects and stuff it's crazy

September 24, 2023

Some small "updates" if anyone's bored

Highlights of yesterday's newly released UFO video by Customs and Border Patrol operations (these were all leaked ages ago, but only now released officially, they were thought to be fake like the nimitz video etc, just to keep in mind as no gov body seems to be releasing videos UNLESS they were already leaked beforehand)

Mexico still trying to convince the world, take it as you will

Senator Mike Rounds who is often perceived as one of the biggest current enemies for disclosure as he he majorly funded by the DoD and has a long history and involvement with them, he's been doing a lot of work behind the scenes trying to put a stop to all this, such as attempting to reform the UFO whistleblower protection law after hearing more whistleblowers are planning to come forward, had this to say the other day:

https://www.askapol.com/p/exclusive-sen-mike-rounds-on-uaps#details

Quote

“My concern from the Department of Defense is, I just don't simply want our ongoing programs disrupted or limited because of additional scrutiny on what we are doing and what our adversaries are doing in some very unique programs,” Sen. Rounds exclusively tells Ask a Pol.

He also mentions not hearing anything about the attempts to shut down the UFO Disclosure Act of Senator Schumer yet, among a couple other things...

Unrelated oldy but goody video from the last UFO hearing regarding an event that has now been forwarded to AARO

Edited September 24, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet

September 24, 2023

14 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

yea i read the whole thing before the hearings and even what they said during it aligns with the 4chan post even with the color of the objects and stuff it's crazy

Keep in mind things like the metallic spheres around the world were already confirmed beforehand, but the way it all adds up is quite strange to say the least...def not as easily dismissed as it was when it was first posted

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