Armani? Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said: i cant believe she actually thought he would give her a hit It's possible, Chloe is just unlucky Could have been her "It Wont Stop" by Sevyn Streeter or a more minor success like "Come Through" by H.E.R. The song ain't it firstly
Johnny Jacobs Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Armani? said: It's possible, Chloe is just unlucky Could have been her "It Wont Stop" by Sevyn Streeter or a more minor success like "Come Through" by H.E.R. The song ain't it firstly I'd be the first to admit the song is good. It was not. She needs to work with other producers/different sounds.
mxoonlight Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 Glad this era is almost over. The bullshit needs to end and we need to move on to CH3
James_Joint Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, Pheromosa said: Her and Normani are in the same boat for me. Never going to happen, and I do not care No but it really is a bit crazy how similar their careers have been. Heavy push/promo on social media, debut single that peaks around number 30, VMA performance of said single, and then crickets.
Bloodflowers. Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 She needs to drop her Pon de Replay first before she makes her Birthday Cake
popularmoonlight Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, James_Joint said: No but it really is a bit crazy how similar their careers have been. Heavy push/promo on social media, debut single that peaks around number 30, VMA performance of said single, and then crickets. What I get from this is that their record labels do not know how to market black girls that are not really R&B, or don't want to.
theoghon Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 Initial MESS... ...but might catch on with time, knowing Chris Brown's fanbase
Dialamba Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Pheromosa said: Her and Normani are in the same boat for me. Never going to happen, and I do not care The gag is that normani has big hits and she had everything while it’s clear Chloe wouldn’t last.
Armani? Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dialamba said: The gag is that normani has big hits and she had everything while it’s clear Chloe wouldn’t last. She had 2 big hits but they didnt solidify her brand. They're just there
Theshigo Washidu Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, professor2000 said: I mean…wasn’t the other song her radio single anyway (Pray It Away)? I don’t think they thought this would be a hit. She’s rolling out songs, just to give people a sample of the album atp…b/c it’s coming in a week or so. No? Hm but really, what truly is the rationale behind that tho? A Chris feature can't be cheap, her other singles aside from Have Mercy have all flopped. She can't surely be in a position to be throwing songs out there with diminishing returns each time. If they wanted a big hit to launch the album off of, maybe pushing the Chris single on the album release day would've worked.
Rotunda Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 2 hours ago, popularmoonlight said: What I get from this is that their record labels do not know how to market black girls that are not really R&B, or don't want to. I think there are two things at play here 1. R&B is persona driven now instead of performance driven All of the really popping R&B girls are storytellers first and singers/performers last. They may nor may not have a good voice, but they have relatable lyrics and a certain ethos. Their experiences and persona is considered “real” in a way that Chloe and Normani’s aren’t. So when they push R&B songs hoping to be taken seriously in the urban space, it doesn’t work cause those girls just don’t have that vibe. Similarly, when you start trying to serve visuals, choreo, and vocals, it falls on deaf ears because the average R&B listener is not prioritizing that anymore. 2. The real crossover artists are rappers these days If you look at people who are simultaneously able to occupy the pop lane and the urban lane these days, it’s female rappers. If you look at who’s expected to serve visuals, and choreo these days, it’s rappers. Doja, Megan, Nicki, Latto, and now Ice Spice are the girls who are able to switch lanes or get airplay across demographics. Most of the R&B girls aren’t jumping on pop collabs and scoring hits. SZA may be the exception here, but everything she releases is largely in her own voice, even when the genre switches.
professor2000 Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, St. Francis said: Hm but really, what truly is the rationale behind that tho? A Chris feature can't be cheap, her other singles aside from Have Mercy have all flopped. She can't surely be in a position to be throwing songs out there with diminishing returns each time. If they wanted a big hit to launch the album off of, maybe pushing the Chris single on the album release day would've worked. That’s my point…I don’t think they care about a big hit. She’s just getting content out + attempting to build interest in the album itself. She also previewed a new song in a commercial couple of weeks ago. Tbh, she might’ve done better by just releasing the album and letting the single pick itself from jump. CxH were never the type to have “hits” anyways. I know it’s not the wisest financially in the short run, but in the long run at least there’s content out there + she can build an audience. I mean…look at Normani. There’s nothing to stan, b/c there is no music….literally.
Relampago. Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 It wouldn’t have been worth it even if it debuted at #1
popularmoonlight Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Rotunda said: I think there are two things at play here 1. R&B is persona driven now instead of performance driven All of the really popping R&B girls are storytellers first and singers/performers last. They may nor may not have a good voice, but they have relatable lyrics and a certain ethos. Their experiences and persona is considered “real” in a way that Chloe and Normani’s aren’t. So when they push R&B songs hoping to be taken seriously in the urban space, it doesn’t work cause those girls just don’t have that vibe. Similarly, when you start trying to serve visuals, choreo, and vocals, it falls on deaf ears because the average R&B listener is not prioritizing that anymore. 2. The real crossover artists are rappers these days If you look at people who are simultaneously able to occupy the pop lane and the urban lane these days, it’s female rappers. If you look at who’s expected to serve visuals, and choreo these days, it’s rappers. Doja, Megan, Nicki, Latto, and now Ice Spice are the girls who are able to switch lanes or get airplay across demographics. Most of the R&B girls aren’t jumping on pop collabs and scoring hits. SZA may be the exception here, but everything she releases is largely in her own voice, even when the genre switches. You're totally right. Still knowing that, you gotta consider their labels don't know how to overcome what you just said. Which I think could be possible because there is still an audience for them.
SwiftLover Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 Sold her soul & abandoned her sister for this? puppets and ventriloquist!! Sit yo ass down, honey!
kimberly Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Dreajae said: I don't think the last song charted. "For the Night" ft. Latto charted at No. 25 on Bubbling Under. So I guess No. 10 is an improvement? OT: No, not worth alienating your fanbase over a Bubbling Under hit.
kishi Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 Chris Brown is talented, yes. But VERY overrated and I don't enjoy him as an artist. I haven't heard the song and don't want to.
mxoonlight Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 21 hours ago, Rotunda said: I think there are two things at play here 1. R&B is persona driven now instead of performance driven All of the really popping R&B girls are storytellers first and singers/performers last. They may nor may not have a good voice, but they have relatable lyrics and a certain ethos. Their experiences and persona is considered “real” in a way that Chloe and Normani’s aren’t. So when they push R&B songs hoping to be taken seriously in the urban space, it doesn’t work cause those girls just don’t have that vibe. Similarly, when you start trying to serve visuals, choreo, and vocals, it falls on deaf ears because the average R&B listener is not prioritizing that anymore. 2. The real crossover artists are rappers these days If you look at people who are simultaneously able to occupy the pop lane and the urban lane these days, it’s female rappers. If you look at who’s expected to serve visuals, and choreo these days, it’s rappers. Doja, Megan, Nicki, Latto, and now Ice Spice are the girls who are able to switch lanes or get airplay across demographics. Most of the R&B girls aren’t jumping on pop collabs and scoring hits. SZA may be the exception here, but everything she releases is largely in her own voice, even when the genre switches. Nailed it
mxoonlight Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 20 hours ago, SwiftLover said: Sold her soul & abandoned her sister for this? puppets and ventriloquist!! Sit yo ass down, honey!
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