Green Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 She needs to release the deluxe a month after Morgan release so she can snatch more weeks at #1
Sscorpionn Posted February 25, 2023 Author Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, SissyThatTwink said: um what about the Yeat album that flooded spotify today? HDD predicts 60-70k and debut at #2 or #3 behind Karol G. SOS should be doing around 80k units this week
Klein Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 The way this massive success is so deserved. What a fantastic album.
momal Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case).
Moonlight Nation Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, momal said: I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case). We're in 2023. Pure sales have become increasingly irrelevant beyond the k-pop world where there's still a real investment in physical releases (notably through elaborate box sets and kits) given the culture surrounding fan support. Otherwise, pure sales these days mostly mean multiple unnecessary variants to inflate numbers, or support from older demographics who don't use streaming. If you have a streaming service allowing you to access any music for free, why bother buying the same product unless you're a huge fan who wants to own a physical copy of it? SZA and Bad Bunny getting 10+ weeks at #1 solely on the strength of people actively consuming their albums on streaming is much more impressive in my view. Very few artists have achieved this, and given how both have so much going against them (SZA being a black woman doing R&B and Bad Bunny being a Latino man with music entirely in Spanish), it's a testament to how much the general public is resonating with their work, whereas these days huge pure sales are mostly indicative of the size of an artist's hardcore fanbase. I'm not discrediting "Midnights" ' achievements at all. Taylor did amazing and it's beautiful to see her reaching yet another career peak at her 10th album, not to mention her streaming presence was phenomenal as well. But your view putting more weight on pure sales is a deeply outdated one.
Arcadius Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 What's the longest reigning #1 album by a black female artist? Obviously not counting The Bodyguard Soundtrack.
Axelios Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Moonlight Nation said: We're in 2023. Pure sales have become increasingly irrelevant beyond the k-pop world where there's still a real investment in physical releases (notably through elaborate box sets and kits) given the culture surrounding fan support. Otherwise, pure sales these days mostly mean multiple unnecessary variants to inflate numbers, or support from older demographics who don't use streaming. If you have a streaming service allowing you to access any music for free, why bother buying the same product unless you're a huge fan who wants to own a physical copy of it? SZA and Bad Bunny getting 10+ weeks at #1 solely on the strength of people actively consuming their albums on streaming is much more impressive in my view. Very few artists have achieved this, and given how both have so much going against them (SZA being a black woman doing R&B and Bad Bunny being a Latino man with music entirely in Spanish), it's a testament to how much the general public is resonating with their work, whereas these days huge pure sales are mostly indicative of the size of an artist's hardcore fanbase. I'm not discrediting "Midnights" ' achievements at all. Taylor did amazing and it's beautiful to see her reaching yet another career peak at her 10th album, not to mention her streaming presence was phenomenal as well. But your view putting more weight on pure sales is a deeply outdated one. The comparison was more between 1989 and SOS. Pure sales are naturally more frontloaded than streaming as you only have to buy an album once to listen to it as many times as you want. So it's easier for an album to be stable with streaming compared to salez and to have better chart runs. Also many people still listen to music on physical media and it shows a level on engagement with an artist that is higher than just streaming it for "free" streams. It also brings much more revenue.
Sscorpionn Posted February 26, 2023 Author Posted February 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, momal said: I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case). Her 5 year old album was literally in the top 10 best selling vinyls last year. SOS will definitely be doing good numbers when the vinyls are released. But we are in the streaming era anyway so get on with the times! Streaming has made music more accessible and charts are now way more reflective of music consumption than they’ve ever been.
Nazareth Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 Attention Grammys, this the success you like to see. You know what to do next year!
Sscorpionn Posted February 26, 2023 Author Posted February 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Moonlight Nation said: We're in 2023. Pure sales have become increasingly irrelevant beyond the k-pop world where there's still a real investment in physical releases (notably through elaborate box sets and kits) given the culture surrounding fan support. Otherwise, pure sales these days mostly mean multiple unnecessary variants to inflate numbers, or support from older demographics who don't use streaming. If you have a streaming service allowing you to access any music for free, why bother buying the same product unless you're a huge fan who wants to own a physical copy of it? SZA and Bad Bunny getting 10+ weeks at #1 solely on the strength of people actively consuming their albums on streaming is much more impressive in my view. Very few artists have achieved this, and given how both have so much going against them (SZA being a black woman doing R&B and Bad Bunny being a Latino man with music entirely in Spanish), it's a testament to how much the general public is resonating with their work, whereas these days huge pure sales are mostly indicative of the size of an artist's hardcore fanbase. I'm not discrediting "Midnights" ' achievements at all. Taylor did amazing and it's beautiful to see her reaching yet another career peak at her 10th album, not to mention her streaming presence was phenomenal as well. But your view putting more weight on pure sales is a deeply outdated one. Whew 3 minutes ago, Axelios said: The comparison was more between 1989 and SOS. Pure sales are naturally more frontloaded than streaming as you only have to buy an album once to listen to it as many times as you want. So it's easier for an album to be stable with streaming compared to salez and to have better chart runs. Also many people still listen to music on physical media and it shows a level on engagement with an artist that is higher than just streaming it for "free" streams. It also brings much more revenue. I’m sorry but not everyone has the disposable income to be buying albums of every artist they listen to. It’s why artists that traditionally appealed to middle class white people were able to dominate the album charts and the likes of SZA and Bad Bunny could’ve never achieved the success they’re currently experiencing even 10 years ago. Yes music by itself is not as lucrative for artists anymore but there’s a lot of ways for musicians to make it up (touring being the primary option).
Axelios Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sscorpionn said: I’m sorry but not everyone has the disposable income to be buying albums of every artist they listen to. It’s why artists that traditionally appealed to middle class white people were able to dominate the album charts and the likes of SZA and Bad Bunny could’ve never achieved the success they’re currently experiencing even 10 years ago. Yes music by itself is not as lucrative for artists anymore but there’s a lot of ways for musicians to make it up (touring being the primary option). Ok, my point is just that pure sales should not be discredited as a form of music consumption. And that good chart runs are easier to achieve with streaming (lower debuts but more stable units) than before.
Sscorpionn Posted February 26, 2023 Author Posted February 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Axelios said: Ok, my point is just that pure sales should not be discredited as a form of music consumption. And that good chart runs are easier to achieve with streaming (lower debuts but more stable units) than before. It isn’t being discredited, it’s still an important measure of consumption but it’s not more important or impressive than streaming that’s my argument.
simmnfierzig Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 16 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: how many more weeks until the racist takes over? 0 3 hours ago, momal said: I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case). Good. Physicals are just a giant pile of wasted resources And why would anyone buy a digital album
Beyonnaise Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 Ahhh this is such a smash, so happy for her
Sscorpionn Posted February 26, 2023 Author Posted February 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Arcadius said: What's the longest reigning #1 album by a black female artist? Obviously not counting The Bodyguard Soundtrack. Whitney has the top 3 longest reigning albums by a black female Whitney Houston - 14 weeks Whitney - 11 weeks Bodyguard - 20 weeks so SZA will be tied for 3rd (or 2nd if you exclude the Bodyguard)
SissyThatTwink Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Sscorpionn said: Whitney has the top 3 longest reigning albums by a black female Whitney Houston - 14 weeks Whitney - 11 weeks Bodyguard - 20 weeks so SZA will be tied for 3rd (or 2nd if you exclude the Bodyguard) mariah carey’s debut album spent 11 weeks at #1 too. SZA will tie with Whitney and mariah for 3rd. side note: WHITNEY WAS UNSTOPPABLE OMGGGGG. her having the Top 3 longest #1 albums for a black woman is insane! She was HUGE
Cain Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, momal said: I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case). This makes it even more impressive imo It was way easier to sell pure a decade ago than it is to get all these units through streaming nowadays
family.guy123 Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 Swifties come ooonnnn lol. Physical sales are negligible
family.guy123 Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Axelios said: The comparison was more between 1989 and SOS. Pure sales are naturally more frontloaded than streaming as you only have to buy an album once to listen to it as many times as you want. So it's easier for an album to be stable with streaming compared to salez and to have better chart runs. Also many people still listen to music on physical media and it shows a level on engagement with an artist that is higher than just streaming it for "free" streams. It also brings much more revenue. It’s not easier. There’s just as much competition as there was back then.
Sscorpionn Posted February 26, 2023 Author Posted February 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, SissyThatTwink said: mariah carey’s debut album spent 11 weeks at #1 too. SZA will tie with Whitney and mariah for 3rd. side note: WHITNEY WAS UNSTOPPABLE OMGGGGG. her having the Top 3 longest #1 albums for a black woman is insane! She was HUGE Yeah she was INSANE. Three Diamond Albums in the US and even her ‘flop’ albums were casually selling over 10m globally
45seconds Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 8 hours ago, momal said: I don't like TS, but she did it with pure sales. SZA is doing it with while selling 400 copies per week which is tragic. And yes, her album is available on Itunes but no one cares enough to buy it so miss me with that excuse that she has no physicals (she wouldn't be doing huge numbers even if it was the case). Wah wah wah.
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