HEAVYONIT Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 I am SHOOKETH. You better BREAK those records Carolina!!!
Rosenda Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, dumbsparce said: I don't live in the US so I'm gonna be completely unfiltered and possibly ignorant: are Latinos who live in the US the only ones who listen to these Latin artists who have broken into the American market? I find it hard to believe that Bad Bunny had such a massive album aided by one demographic no matter how big it might be. There's no way white, black and asian americans are not at least familiar with his music. Yeah theres no way he could be #1 for 13 weeks solely because of his latin audience. I think there must be loads of casual listeners of reggaeton (because reggaeton is pretty much universally liked, very simple but effective and you dont really need to understand Spanish to enjoy it) and the big American cities like NY, LA, Miami, where latinos are basically a majority now, have a very big influence on the overall American music market. The last part i think is especially true for songs like Shakira/bzrp. Shakira debuted 30 years ago and she hadnt seen much success in the last decade, but suddenly she has a 2xPlatinum hit and very stable on streaming services like... how did this happen lol. Latinos in big cities supported her and then it crossed over to the white, mainstream audience... i think. Oh also reggaeton is the new IT sound, just like trap used to be years ago, to the point i wont be surprised if someone like Ariana Grande or Selena Gomez releases a reggaeton song in English in 2023, like Shakira's hips dont lie lol Edited March 2, 2023 by Rosenda
Headlock Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, inmymendes said: True lol Billboard has a bunch weird rules, but basically Die For You and it’s remixes only count towards the album that’s currently selling more. Example: if Miley & Dua released a Prisoner remix, it would only count towards the Future Nostalgia album on the Billboard 200 I know, but that’s why this example for The Weeknd is causing the reactions it is, since it’s both rising due to a remix, and is also a compilation album.
unclefloprry Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, dumbsparce said: I don't live in the US so I'm gonna be completely unfiltered and possibly ignorant: are Latinos who live in the US the only ones who listen to these Latin artists who have broken into the American market? I find it hard to believe that Bad Bunny had such a massive album aided by one demographic no matter how big it might be. There's no way white, black and asian americans are not at least familiar with his music. No, as they say, the Latin market has grown massively in the last few years all over the world. You can see Maluma filling an O2 in London, Ozuna doing a concert in Israel or J Balvin playing at a festival in Albania. In Bad Bunny's case, he's a marketing machine. His PR was great since 2018: WWE, MLB, F1, talk shows, collabs with Drake and Cardi B, collabs with brands like Adidas, Supreme, the SuperBowl cameo and more so if some people were not familiar with his face bc they don't know Latinos they would do it with that + it helped that Bad Bunny has that cool factor that makes him likeable, bc Columbia tried the same thing with Rosalía and failed miserably Edited March 3, 2023 by unclefloprry
Intuition Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, unclefloprry said: No, as they say, the Latin market has grown massively in the last few years all over the world. You can see Maluma filling an O2 in London, Ozuna doing a concert in Israel or J Balvin playing at a festival in Albania. In Bad Bunny's case, he's a marketing machine. His PR was great since 2018: WWE, MLB, F1, talk shows, collabs with Drake and Cardi B, collabs with brands like Adidas, Supreme, the SuperBowl cameo and more so if some people were not familiar with his face bc they don't know Latinos they would do it with that + it helped that Bad Bunny has that cool factor that makes him likeable, bc Columbia tried the same thing with Rosalía and failed miserably I couldn't name you a single Bad Bunny song and if you asked most non-Spanish speaking Americans, they wouldn't either. He has no crossover appeal but doesn't really need to. He clearly has a niche market and it's not surprising. The Latino population is huge in America. I mean the the most populous is California and it has a Latino plurality and Texas (the second largest state by population) is right behind.
fridayteenage Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 hmm, bb's only t10 on radio so far is on cardi's song. he had one more in the tens with a drake collab.
305 Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 8 hours ago, dumbsparce said: I don't live in the US so I'm gonna be completely unfiltered and possibly ignorant: are Latinos who live in the US the only ones who listen to these Latin artists who have broken into the American market? I find it hard to believe that Bad Bunny had such a massive album aided by one demographic no matter how big it might be. There's no way white, black and asian americans are not at least familiar with his music. It basically is all latino's that are streaming him here, he has lots of replay value too so even though the latino population might be smaller than the general pop he gets just as many streams because of that. There are occasional gringos who listen to him but it's definitely latino dominant.
305 Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, unclefloprry said: + it helped that Bad Bunny has that cool factor that makes him likeable, bc Columbia tried the same thing with Rosalía and failed miserably not the same thing at all, Rosalia's music is hardly as marketable as BB's easy to listen to and party ready music.
unclefloprry Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Intuition said: I couldn't name you a single Bad Bunny song and if you asked most non-Spanish speaking Americans, they wouldn't either. He has no crossover appeal but doesn't really need to. He clearly has a niche market and it's not surprising. The Latino population is huge in America. I mean the the most populous is California and it has a Latino plurality and Texas (the second largest state by population) is right behind. But that is something that happens between cultures. Like 99% of Latinos can't name a song by Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo or 90% of Europeans can't name a song by BTS or Blackpink.
Squall Posted March 3, 2023 Author Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, unclefloprry said: But that is something that happens between cultures. Like 99% of Latinos can't name a song by Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo or 90% of Europeans can't name a song by BTS or Blackpink. The way you are still trying to convince yourself Taylor isn’t know in Latin countries
Scott Borchetta Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) honestly this puts into perspective how middling future nostalgia’s debut was Edited March 3, 2023 by Scott Borchetta
Jaye Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 21 hours ago, Rodrighost said: La Bichota the reigning queen of hispanic music (before Shakira exploded). I hope Shakira gets the #1 too later this year. We love to see real latinas winning! 21 hours ago, dumbsparce said: I don't live in the US so I'm gonna be completely unfiltered and possibly ignorant: are Latinos who live in the US the only ones who listen to these Latin artists who have broken into the American market? I find it hard to believe that Bad Bunny had such a massive album aided by one demographic no matter how big it might be. There's no way white, black and asian americans are not at least familiar with his music. 21 hours ago, DoubleRainbow! said: this is what I've been wondering for months since Bad Bunny started smashing so hard. how could he fill those stadiums? was it actually only Latinos? In my own experience living in LA and happening to have a diverse group of friends, a lot of non-hispanic cultures also vibe to their music. Maybe its because of the heavily Latin influence in the area, but my friends (African Americans, Indians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, White) despite not knowing the words they love the rhythm and end up learning the songs. 13 hours ago, Intuition said: I couldn't name you a single Bad Bunny song and if you asked most non-Spanish speaking Americans, they wouldn't either. He has no crossover appeal but doesn't really need to. He clearly has a niche market and it's not surprising. The Latino population is huge in America. I mean the the most populous is California and it has a Latino plurality and Texas (the second largest state by population) is right behind. A lot of non-hispanic minorities listen to his music (I see it all the time). Just say white people and keep it pushing.
Heart.me Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Karol G 1 KAROL G | MA�'ANA SERÁ BONITO UMLE (UMG) 91,478 -- 1 2 SZA | SOS TDE/RCA (SME) 86,206 1% -- 3 GORILLAZ | CRACKER ISLAND WARNER (WMG) 58,289 --
UnusualBoy Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 LW TW ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL TOTAL CHANGE ALBUMS TEA SEA -- 1 KAROL G | MANANA SERÁ BONITO UMLE (UMG) 91,478 -- 10,293 1,244 79,941 1 2 SZA | SOS TDE/RCA (SME) 86,206 1% 419 499 85,288 -- 3 GORILLAZ | CRACKER ISLAND WARNER (WMG) 58,289 -- 43,299 627 14,363 -- 4 YEAT | AFTËRLYFE FIELD TRIP/GEFFEN (UMG) 54,145 -- 262 69 53,814 6 5 THE WEEKND | THE HIGHLIGHTS XO/REPUBLIC (UMG) 48,614 13% 721 1,580 46,313 3 6 TAYLOR SWIFT | MIDNIGHTS REPUBLIC (UMG) 47,658 -13% 10,835 660 36,163 5 7 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG) 43,093 -1% 1,243 611 41,239 4 8 METRO BOOMIN | HEROES & VILLAINS BOOMINATI/REPUBLIC (UMG) 42,030 -9% 251 305 41,474 7 9 BAD BUNNY | UN VERANO SIN TI RIMAS (THE ORCHARD) 37,909 -7% 571 177 37,161 -- 10 DON TOLIVER | LOVE SICK ATLANTIC (WMG) 37,849 -- 804 188 36,857 8 11 DRAKE & 21 SAVAGE | HER LOSS OVO/REPUBLIC (UMG) 36,492 -4% 118 154 36,221 -- 12 KEY GLOCK | GLOCKOMA 2 PAPER ROUTE/EMPIRE (EMPIRE) 28,593 -- 1,456 96 27,041 2 13 P!NK | TRUSTFALL RCA (SME) 27,806 -63% 17,558 1,338 8,910 10 14 ZACH BRYAN | AMERICAN HEARTBREAK WARNER (WMG) 26,754 -5% 1,265 429 25,060 12 15 LIL BABY | IT'S ONLY ME QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN (UMG) 25,211 -1% 287 74 24,850 11 16 HARRY STYLES | HARRY'S HOUSE COLUMBIA (SME) 24,503 -10% 5,342 296 18,865 14 17 BEYONCE | RENAISSANCE PARKWOOD/COLUMBIA (SME) 21,368 -11% 2,427 354 18,587 -- 18 GODSMACK | LIGHTING UP THE SKY BMG (WMG) 20,711 -- 18,048 200 2,464 9 19 RIHANNA | ANTI WESTBURY ROAD/ROC NATION/DEF JAM (UMG ) 19,064 -33% 1,994 109 16,961 18 20 ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS ISLAND (UMG) 18,481 -3% 1,124 504 16,854 17 21 FUTURE | I NEVER LIKED YOU FREEBANDZ/EPIC (SME) 18,460 -6% 187 47 18,226 -- 22 LOGIC | COLLEGE PARK BMG (WMG) 17,844 -- 4,508 137 13,199 22 23 LIL BABY | MY TURN QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN (UMG) 17,758 0% 35 32 17,691 23 24 DRAKE | CERTIFIED LOVER BOY OVO/REPUBLIC (UMG) 17,689 -1% 19 41 17,629 20 25 EMINEM | CURTAIN CALL SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG) 17,262 -4% 348 297 16,618 28 26 SZA | CTRL TDE/RCA (SME) 17,085 9% 1,331 29 15,725 21 27 BAILEY ZIMMERMAN | LEAVE THE LIGHT ON WARNER NASHVILLE (WMG) 16,963 -6% 566 429 15,969 -- 28 THE WEEKND | AFTER HOURS XO/REPUBLIC (UMG) 16,862 -- 898 145 15,819 24 29 POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING REPUBLIC (UMG) 16,492 -1% 660 143 15,688 19 30 LUKE COMBS | GROWIN' UP RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME) 16,368 -12% 968 361 15,039 25 31 OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR GEFFEN (UMG) 15,558 -5% 1,488 72 13,998 26 32 EMINEM | CURTAIN CALL 2 SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG) 15,512 -5% 833 228 14,451 35 33 MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME BIG LOUD (STEM) 15,436 2% 606 261 14,569 13 34 TOMORROW X TOGETHER | THE NAME CHAPTER: TEMPTATION BIGHIT/IMPERIAL/REPUBLIC (UMG) 15,288 -38% 12,692 26 2,570 34 35 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME) 15,260 0% 669 186 14,406 32 36 HARDY | THE MOCKINGBIRD & THE CROW BIG LOUD (STEM) 15,009 -2% 1,668 559 12,782 16 37 JORDAN DAVIS | BLUEBIRD DAYS MCA NASHVILLE (UMG) 14,821 -26% 802 304 13,715 36 38 FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS WARNER (WMG) 14,737 -3% 3,693 272 10,773 30 39 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE REPUBLIC (UMG) 14,715 -4% 3,017 79 11,619 31 40 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD (UMG) 14,712 -4% 2,199 332 12,180 39 41 KENDRICK LAMAR | GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG) 14,686 -2% 1,394 33 13,259 -- 42 GRACIE ABRAMS | GOOD RIDDANCE INTERSCOPE (UMG) 14,561 -- 5,046 51 9,463 40 43 JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE (UMG) 14,485 -3% 292 32 14,161 43 44 KENDRICK LAMAR | DAMN. TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG) 14,228 -3% 448 46 13,734 38 45 TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER REPUBLIC (UMG) 14,201 -6% 2,007 127 12,067 44 46 NICKI MINAJ | QUEEN RADIO: VOLUME 1 REPUBLIC (UMG) 14,043 -4% 232 133 13,678 48 47 LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME) 13,850 -1% 436 201 13,212 47 48 DRAKE | SCORPION YMCMB/REPUBLIC (UMG) 13,737 -2% 47 51 13,640 46 49 TAYLOR SWIFT | 1989 BIG MACHINE/BMLG (UMG) 13,707 -3% 225 130 13,351 -- 50 SHAKEWELL | SHAMELESS $UICIDE G59 (THE ORCHARD) 13,619 -- 486 35 13,098
Ger Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Karol ending at #1 despite SZA actually increasing 1%, what a huge achievement for her, great for both acts anyways.
Dr. Alexander Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Incredible! I wonder how did we get to the point of Spanish-only records and albums being chart toppers in the States. This never happened, and it wasn't even a possibly ten years ago.
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