N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Communion said: Because one of your fellow right-wingers argued progressives' views on Israel was such: Are you blind or just ignorant? The above user is utilizing right-wing talking points to suggest one of two things: Progressivism in America is antisemitic because it criticizes Israel, or Progressivism in America is antisemitic because it's controlled by black people and pro-blackness is antisemitic Please enlighten us which of these two insane ideas you're going to try and defend. Nah I'm actually super progressive in terms of my views and policy stances. Critiquing here just general mind-think. But what is insane to me is I didn't even mention or talk about Israel yet somehow you instantly went to that as a way to deflect from the fact that Jews in America are being targeted daily without much coverage. Again, unsure where Israel came in here besides your own prejudices. And American Jewish and Black people have worked together toward progressing civil rights for over a century (for example, the NAACP and the Legal Defense Fund). Not even sure how me saying that sadly antisemitism doesn't fall into the categories that online progressives will acknowledge is somehow me being anti-Black??? Like what kind of wild jump. As someone who is a student at a super liberal institution with equally as progressive friends, it's common to see attacks on other minority groups (rightfully) highlighted on social media and discussions. But when it comes to attacks on Jewish people in America, it is not amplified (or frankly, is just ignored). And that happens in part because of people like you who and @Distantconstellation – when faced with a post about Jewish people being attacked – deflect and immediately say "Well what about Israel!!" while simultaneously saying without any prompting add that being anti-Israel ≠ antisemitism. No one here was talking about Israel, so if you yourself cannot contribute to a conversation about attacks on American Jews without bringing in Israel, then I'm not sure what else to even say. Bizarre, but very convenient Edited February 25, 2023 by N.M.K.
Communion Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: Nah I'm actually super progressive in terms of my views and policy stances. And yet you platform right-wing views and conspiracies that you can't actually provide evidence for besides "that's my opinion!!!" when trying to denigrate progressivism as a movement. That you have to now run back and pretend you weren't pushing right-wing talking points shows it was right to call you out. It went from "progressivism is antisemitic" to "well the media isn't talking or covering attacks on Jews". What media? Progressive media? Corporate media? How is corporate media's failures indicative of American progressivism? You can't even get your story straight on who you're now accusing of antisemitism after being called out for the insane claim that progressives-at-large are antisemitic. Imagine deflecting to "general progressive mind-think" when being shown videos of literal neo-nazis and even now trying to still push dog whistles: 18 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: As someone who is a student at a super liberal institution with equally as progressive friends, it's common to see attacks on other minority groups highlighted on social media What groups? Say it with your whole chest. Again, *your* post was made first. The only mentions of Israel have been people *replying* to you to let you know that we know you're not being genuine and you're using dog whistles. Edited February 25, 2023 by Communion
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Communion said: And yet you platform right-wing views and conspiracies that you can't actually provide evidence for besides "that's my opinion!!!" when trying to denigrate progressivism as a movement. That you have to now run back and pretend you weren't pushing right-wing talking points shows it was right to call you out. It went from "progressivism is antisemitic" to "well the media isn't talking or covering attacks on Jews". What media? Progressive media? Corporate media? How is corporate media's failures indicative of American progressivism? You can't even get your story straight on who you're now accusing of antisemitism after being called out for the insane claim that progressives-at-large are antisemitic. Imagine deflecting to "general progressive mind-think" when being shown videos of literal neo-nazis and even now trying to still push dog whistles: What groups? Say it with your whole chest. Lmao the amount of logical jumps you're making to continue deflecting from the substance of my argument in striking. First, I never said "progressivism is antisemitic," so I'm not sure what those quotes are doing there. As I have said and maintain, speaking on the pervasive antisemitism and its manifestation through daily attacks on American Jews is not something that is highlighted in progressive groups, institutions or circles. And as someone who has seen and continues to witness those direct impacts, it's incredibly disheartening to see friends and progressive groups that do important work on other issues not speak up about attacks on American Jews. But as has been the case throughout history, antisemitism is something that is prevalent in people across the political spectrum. But to my original point, my comment about how these attacks are likely going to be ignored/ not amplified from most self-proclaimed "progressive" spaces is even evident here by the lack of engagement on a thread highlighting attacks on Jewish people in broad daylight (with most of the engagement bringing in Israel when that isn't even what the thread or OP is about). And I'll gladly give clarity to the other part of my comment that you again are trying to somehow construe into something that it isn't. For example, when hatred and targeting of Asian Americans, fueled by the GOP and its peddling of racist tropes around COVID, rose at an incredibly alarming rate, progressive groups and progressive politicians and individuals (rightfully) spoke up to bring attention to this reality and express their solidarity. Now, as Jews make up the overwhelming majority of religious hate crimes in the U.S.(despite making up ~2% of the American population), I don't think it's wrong for me to highlight that it is disheartening to not see people outside of the Jewish community – and especially progressives – to not speak up about what's going on. And when I do bring it up, it instantly becomes "but Israel!" That is unacceptable to me, and in my opinion, is a manifestation of that antisemitism I just spoke about. But go ahead and try and twist my words in some way that allows you to ignore the substance of my comment.
Communion Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: But go ahead and try and twist my words No one is twisting your words by referencing your post history. When you denigrate and accuse American progressives-at-large of "being antisemitic" and "not caring about antisemitism", of course people are going to point out the bad faith intent of these allegations, especially when your definition of antisemitism includes: - Not supporting Israel's existence as an ethno-state: - Recognizing that there are white Jewish people: - Supporting sanctions on Israel for the globally recognized apartheid n Palestine: - As you literally posted in this thread, "other minority groups bringing attention to racial hatred against them but not Jewish Americans"? You can't speak in dog whistles and conspiracies and then make-up nonsense (ie: no one 'deflected' to Israel; *you* attempted to initiate a claim about American progressives and were called out to provide material examples that everyone knows you can't provide) when you're not able to actually provide specifics. You say this: 30 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: is not something that is highlighted in progressive groups, institutions or circles yet refuse to provide any actual examples to make it clear what you're *actually* saying and what you're *actually* implying (probably because I know and you know what you really want to say). "Progressive groups"? Which? "Progressive institutions"? What progressive institutions exist in America? You keep going back and forth from accusing amorphous, unnamed "online progressives" of being antisemitic to then saying you actually just feel progressives are antisemitic because your friends at college "don't discuss antisemitism as much as they discuss anti-blackness and anti-Asian hate"??? See also your refusal to engage with @ClashAndBurn's actual examples of people who were not de-platformed by institutions for anti-black remarks but who were for antisemitic remarks. Why refuse to address such? Of course addressing anti-blackness and antisemitism are not at odds with one another, but these two issues are only being compared to begin with because you thought a thread about American neo-nazis was the appropriate place for you to literally initiate the comparison when claiming American progressives don't care about antisemitism and cited progressives promoting "other minority groups' issues" as evidence to your "antisemitic progressives" claim. Edited February 25, 2023 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, N.M.K. said: And this is the antisemitism people are talking about lmao. Not once did I even mention Israel?...like Jesus can you at least be more subtle Israel is being mentioned because usually when progressives are accused of antisemitism, it is because they are criticizing Israel, and zionists do so to silence any conversation centered around Israel’s ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I of course didn’t even mention Israel at all, yet you chose not to engage with me. Curious! As for your point about crimes against American Jews not being reported on, I think you’ll find that mainstream media is not even remotely progressive. They are owned by corporate, often conservative, conglomerates that control the narratives they broadcast to be friendly towards establishment interests. They tried to cover up the environmental disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, because it was inconvenient for Joe Biden, but did not succeed because independent media and locals on social media were persistent. My guess is that hate crimes against Jews aren’t being reported on now like they were a few years ago because they can’t be weaponized by the media to make Trump look bad.
Elusive Chanteuse Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/24/2023 at 10:46 AM, N.M.K. said: J But sadly antisemitism doesn't fit into the progressive litmus test of what to care about so will be mostly ignored </3 Judging by the antisemitism I see unchecked on social media I would say so. Its very scary.
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Communion said: No one is twisting your words by referencing your post history. When you denigrate and accuse American progressives-at-large of "being antisemitic" and "not caring about antisemitism", of course people are going to point out the bad faith intent of these allegations, especially when your definition of antisemitism includes: - Not supporting Israel's existence as an ethno-state: - Recognizing that there are white Jewish people: - Supporting sanctions on Israel for the globally recognized apartheid n Palestine: - As you literally posted in this thread, "other minority groups bringing attention to racial hatred against them but not Jewish Americans"? You can't speak in dog whistles and conspiracies and then make-up nonsense (ie: no one 'deflected' to Israel; *you* attempted to initiate a claim about American progressives and were called out to provide material examples that everyone knows you can't provide) when you're not able to actually provide specifics. You say this: yet refuse to provide any actual examples to make it clear what you're *actually* saying and what you're *actually* implying (probably because I know and you know what you really want to say). "Progressive groups"? Which? "Progressive institutions"? What progressive institutions exist in America? You keep going back and forth from accusing amorphous, unnamed "online progressives" of being antisemitic to then saying you actually just feel progressives are antisemitic because your friends at college "don't discuss antisemitism as much as they discuss anti-blackness and anti-Asian hate"??? See also your refusal to engage with @ClashAndBurn's actual examples of people who were not de-platformed by institutions for anti-black remarks but who were for antisemitic remarks. Why refuse to address such? Of course anti-blackness and antisemitism are not at odds with one another, but these two issues are only being compared to begin with because you literally initiated the comparison when claiming American progressives don't care about antisemitism and cited progressives promoting "other minority groups' issues" as evidence to your "antisemitic progressives" claim. First, people who make anti-Black, racist comments should receive the same scrutiny and consequences as those attacking other minority groups. And I think that should also apply to attacks on Jewish people. Again, not even following this attempt at a "gotcha." And you can go into my post history now but that was and is not the subject of what this post is about. I am speaking here directly about antisemitic attacks on Jewish people – with no reference to Israel – and all that was brought it was "what about Israel" without addressing the substance of my post or the reality I described. It was not until you were pushed on that then you went to my comments and posts in other threads as a way to – again – not acknowledge the fact that Jews are being attacked daily in America and there has not been an adequate response or uproar about that reality from "progressive" groups, politicians, and high profile individuals. You can do your own research on that, but when it comes to Jews speaking of their experience or even posted it here, I'm not surprised to see you invalidate and ignore that. But anyway, I am not the first – or last – to speak of this failure of those in progressive spaces to speak on the ongoing attacks toward Jewish people. Again, a quick google search can help you on that one. Nevertheless, the levels of digging you have to go into my past posts to avoid what we are discussing right here and now speaks volumes on the point I am trying to make. Self-proclaimed progressives will go to extreme lengths to disqualify – or flat out ignore – the experience of Jews being attacked daily in America. And you provide a prime example. But – whatever it is you need to do to ignore the reality of the situation for your own comfort or sanity, you can continue to do so. I hope you can one day spend 1/10 of that time and effort looking into what is happening to Jewish people in America on a daily basis. But coincidentally, it seems your defense of people's dignity doesn't extend to that reality. I wonder why :/
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: Judging by the antisemitism I see unchecked on social media I would say so. Its very scary. No need to go to other social media, you can just check out this thread!
Communion Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: I am speaking here directly about antisemitic attacks on Jewish people Except you weren't speaking about antisemitism - you were trying to make the thread about progressives' alleged response to antisemitism, even when the perpetrator are clearly far-right neo-nazis and progressives were shown as t he only groups online discussing this. It is literally progressives outing and doxxing these neo-nazis. The only flaw on my end was in taking your bait, but everyone else can see that you're acting in bad faith. So let me highlight that others see what you're doing: 21 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Israel is being mentioned because usually when progressives are accused of antisemitism, it is because they are criticizing Israel, and zionists do so to silence any conversation centered around Israel’s ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I of course didn’t even mention Israel at all, yet you chose not to engage with me. Curious! As for your point about crimes against American Jews not being reported on, I think you’ll find that mainstream media is not even remotely progressive. They are owned by corporate, often conservative, conglomerates that control the narratives they broadcast to be friendly towards establishment interests. They tried to cover up the environmental disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, because it was inconvenient for Joe Biden, but did not succeed because independent media and locals on social media were persistent. My guess is that hate crimes against Jews aren’t being reported on now like they were a few years ago because they can’t be weaponized by the media to make Trump look bad. Odd you'll engage with me pointing out you ignore ClashAndBurn but still refuse to address their point. Edited February 25, 2023 by Communion
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Israel is being mentioned because usually when progressives are accused of antisemitism, it is because they are criticizing Israel, and zionists do so to silence any conversation centered around Israel’s ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I of course didn’t even mention Israel at all, yet you chose not to engage with me. Curious! As for your point about crimes against American Jews not being reported on, I think you’ll find that mainstream media is not even remotely progressive. They are owned by corporate, often conservative, conglomerates that control the narratives they broadcast to be friendly towards establishment interests. They tried to cover up the environmental disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, because it was inconvenient for Joe Biden, but did not succeed because independent media and locals on social media were persistent. My guess is that hate crimes against Jews aren’t being reported on now like they were a few years ago because they can’t be weaponized by the media to make Trump look bad. Lmao so let me get this straight. You are insinuating that when people criticize Israel, people (incorrectly) say they are being antisemitic, and that this type of comparison shouldn't be made. But then here, when someone speaks about antisemitism and attacks on American Jews, you immediately jump to "but what about Israel!." So which one is it? Anyway, I personally think you can (and should) criticize Israel and that criticizing Israel's government is not necessarily antisemitic. But what I don't understand is how I commented – on a post highlighting neo-nazis targeting Jewish people in broad daylight: Quote Just one of many hate crimes toward Jews in America this week. And white supremacists are planning a "day of hate" tomorrow to target Jews throughout the country. So awful But sadly antisemitism doesn't fit into the progressive litmus test of what to care about so will be mostly ignored </3 And somehow this meant I was talking about Israel? That level of projection is wild. Anyone can go through past posts or supposed comments from other people. But what I do not understand – and what I find inexcusable – is that people post antisemitic attacks on American people and respond how this will likely go largely ignored and it is immediately discredited because of the state of Israel. To me, there is no consistency besides the blatant attempt to minimize the scary reality for Jews in America right now.
Communion Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: But then here, when someone speaks about antisemitism and attacks on American Jews, you immediately jump to "but what about Israel!." So which one is it 17 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I of course didn’t even mention Israel at all, yet you chose not to engage with me. Curious! The math ain't mathing.
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 21 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: What are you talking about? Antisemitism is literally what got Kanye West completely blacklisted and disappeared from public life, meanwhile anti-Black views get you a nightly primetime slot on Fox News. Chick-Fil-A contributes to conversion therapy causes. Hogwarts Legacy became one of the most successful games of all time even though it's based on the IP of a rabid anti-trans activist. Stop lying. Antisemitism is literally the only thing our society actually cancels people for. So it takes someone saying they will go "death con 3" on Jewish people and peddling neo-nazi to get canceled and that is somehow an indication that antisemitism is the only thing people actually get "canceled" for? Really? Let alone the fact that people continue to stream and support Kanye. I can tell you know nothing about this because the amount of antisemitism that goes unchecked every single day at all levels is wild. Under your logic, you can cherry pick things easily to find a case where someone was "cancelled" for hateful behavior while pointing to examples of racist, homophobic, xenophobic, or antisemitic actions that have gone without accountability. Anyway, people with anti-semitic views get nightly primetime slots on Fox News (and Congress, e.g. "Jewish space lasers") too. For example, Tucker Carlson consistently platforming neo-Nazis and his own peddling of the antisemitic "Great Replacement" theory. Not to mention that Hogwarts Legacy is also riddled with antisemitism. And don't even get me started on Chick Fil A. But I agree with you that all of those deserve(d) boycotting and deplatforming, not the success that they continue to enjoy. And there is an endless amount of antisemitic politicians, celebrities, and figures who continue to enjoy success without any consequences. Just as there have been figures who have (rightfully) been held accountable for their own bigoted remarks. Just weird the levels of "what-about-ism" here that is being made instead of just accepting the reality of what American Jews say they are experiencing. Bizarre, but again, unsurprising.
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Israel is being mentioned because usually when progressives are accused of antisemitism, it is because they are criticizing Israel, and zionists do so to silence any conversation centered around Israel’s ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I of course didn’t even mention Israel at all, yet you chose not to engage with me. Curious! As for your point about crimes against American Jews not being reported on, I think you’ll find that mainstream media is not even remotely progressive. They are owned by corporate, often conservative, conglomerates that control the narratives they broadcast to be friendly towards establishment interests. They tried to cover up the environmental disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, because it was inconvenient for Joe Biden, but did not succeed because independent media and locals on social media were persistent. My guess is that hate crimes against Jews aren’t being reported on now like they were a few years ago because they can’t be weaponized by the media to make Trump look bad. @Communion Wait so I am now being ridiculed because I didn't take the time to individually engage with every comment in this thread... Jesus.. the mental gymnastics being done to not have to address what I said is just very interesting hahahahah
ClashAndBurn Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: Lmao so let me get this straight. You are insinuating that when people criticize Israel, people (incorrectly) say they are being antisemitic, and that this type of comparison shouldn't be made. But then here, when someone speaks about antisemitism and attacks on American Jews, you immediately jump to "but what about Israel!." So which one is it? Anyway, I personally think you can (and should) criticize Israel and that criticizing Israel's government is not necessarily antisemitic. But what I don't understand is how I commented – on a post highlighting neo-nazis targeting Jewish people in broad daylight: And somehow this meant I was talking about Israel? That level of projection is wild. Anyone can go through past posts or supposed comments from other people. But what I do not understand – and what I find inexcusable – is that people post antisemitic attacks on American people and respond how this will likely go largely ignored and it is immediately discredited because of the state of Israel. To me, there is no consistency besides the blatant attempt to minimize the scary reality for Jews in America right now. Again, I didn’t mention Israel, yet you only responded to me when I did, even though it was to explain that progressives are often attacked in bad faith and accused of antisemitism to chill any and all criticism of Israel and THAT was why people were responding that way. Yet you decide to engage when you could disingenuously attack me for “deflecting to Israel” when I was merely answering your question. Your mistake was to accuse progressives of being antisemitic over corporate media’s choice to not discuss specific hate crimes against Jews, even though they constantly platform the pro-Israel Jonathan Greenblatt to equate Israel criticism to antisemitism at least once a week.
Communion Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: @Communion Wait so I am now being ridiculed because- You're being ridiculed because your attacks on progressives were rooted in dishonesty and you chose to only engage with people who took your bait on mentioning Israel and have refused to engage on the actual substance of your claim, that you have no actual argument for. You hope that standpoint theory's idea of identity being rooted in experience means you can just make wild claims of "progressives enable antisemitism" and hope no one questions your claim because you're shrouding such claims in your "experiences". Even now, you have to be reminded that *you* claimed PROGRESSIVES had an antisemitism problem. And yet, once forced to address ClashAndBurn's post.. you.. mention Fox & Marjorie Taylor Green? 24 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: Anyway, people with anti-semitic views get nightly primetime slots on Fox News (and Congress, e.g. "Jewish space lasers") too. For example, Tucker Carlson consistently platforming neo-Nazis and his own peddling of the antisemitic "Great Replacement" theory. Not to mention that Hogwarts Legacy is also riddled with antisemitism. And don't even get me started on Chick Fil A. But I agree with you that all of those deserve(d) boycotting and deplatforming, not the success that they continue to enjoy. And there is an endless amount of antisemitic politicians, celebrities, and figures who continue to enjoy success without any consequences. Just as there have been figures who have (rightfully) been held accountable for their own bigoted remarks. Just weird the levels of "what-about-ism" here that is being made instead of just accepting the reality of what American Jews say they are experiencing. Bizarre, but again, unsurprising. "There's endless amounts of antisemitic politicians, celebrities and figures who continue to enjoy success without consequence" yet you struggle to name any who are representative of progressivism or part of the progressive movement doing what you claim. None of what you listed is indicative of progressives allowing antisemitism to flourish. Progressives don't own Fox News (). Progressives don't control any part of Congress. Progressives aren't who are mass buying Hogwarts Legacy. In fact, progressives have largely been mocked by liberal and conservative media for calling out the antisemitism in HP. Literally every example you give when asked to explain the claim that progressives stand-by idly or ignore rampant antisemitism don't make sense logically. Sis, YOU ARE THE WHAT-ABOUT-IST. YOU MADE FAR-RIGHT NEO-NAZISM ABOUT PROGRESSIVES. Edited February 25, 2023 by Communion
Helios Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Im sorry but do these people not have anything better to do? Must be nice not to have to worry about anything but harassing innocent people.
N.M.K. Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Anyway...as I was saying, sad that self-proclaimed progressives continue to ignore antisemitism and Jewish experiences whenever possible, and their selective silence has consequences on the lived experiences of American Jews (as seen here, where people will not acknowledge and/or downplay attacks on innocent American Jews). Sad </3
ZIVERT Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 17 hours ago, N.M.K. said: No need to go to other social media, you can just check out this thread! I don’t know why you bother engaging with them. That one user screeches about Israel being an ethno-state intent on wiping out Palestinians here, but without missing a beat will champion China and defend their right to lock up Uyghur “separatist extremists” in literal concentration camps.
Icarus Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 1:31 AM, ZIVERT said: The antisemites rushing in here to gaslight and downplay They do it in every single thread that mentions Jewish people
N.M.K. Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, ZIVERT said: I don’t know why you bother engaging with them. That one user screeches about Israel being an ethno-state intent on wiping out Palestinians here, but without missing a beat will champion China and defend their right to lock up Uyghur “separatist extremists” in literal concentration camps. Yeah I realized too late there was no pointing engaging. Almost thought it was a satire at first but :/ too bad Jewish people don't count when it comes to defending people attacked by Nazis
Communion Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Again, I didn’t mention Israel, yet you only responded to me when I did, even though it was to explain that progressives are often attacked in bad faith and accused of antisemitism to chill any and all criticism of Israel and THAT was why people were responding that way. Yet you decide to engage when you could disingenuously attack me for “deflecting to Israel” when I was merely answering your question. Your mistake was to accuse progressives of being antisemitic over corporate media’s choice to not discuss specific hate crimes against Jews, even though they constantly platform the pro-Israel Jonathan Greenblatt to equate Israel criticism to antisemitism at least once a week. 20 hours ago, Communion said: Even now, you have to be reminded that *you* claimed PROGRESSIVES had an antisemitism problem. And yet, once forced to address ClashAndBurn's post.. you.. mention Fox & Marjorie Taylor Green? "There's endless amounts of antisemitic politicians, celebrities and figures who continue to enjoy success without consequence" yet you struggle to name any who are representative of progressivism or part of the progressive movement doing what you claim. None of what you listed is indicative of progressives allowing antisemitism to flourish. Progressives don't own Fox News (). Progressives don't control any part of Congress. Progressives aren't who are mass buying Hogwarts Legacy. In fact, progressives have largely been mocked by liberal and conservative media for calling out the antisemitism in HP. Literally every example you give when asked to explain the claim that progressives stand-by idly or ignore rampant antisemitism don't make sense logically. 24 hours later and both of these posts still not addressed. I wonder why. Right-wingers get so mad when the very identity politics they hate ("who's to say anyone is white?!?") fails when they try to utilize such for their benefit ("why aren't you listening to my conservative affluent EXPERIENCES?!"). The fact that we actually reached "support for POC is antisemitic" levels of insanity. Some of y'all should have gone full fash and complained about certain demographics ruining your "neighborhoods" too. Europeans are so unserious. Edited February 26, 2023 by Communion
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