Marianne Williamson announces she's challenging Biden for U.S. presidential primary

[Distantconstellation]

2 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Besides a few cnn and maybe fox interviews she will never be heard from again 💀

U are wrong. 

[Bad News]

[Sazare]

Legend behavior.

[HEAVYONIT]

Not this ***** again 

[ClashAndBurn]

8 minutes ago, Distantconstellation said:

I agree she doesn't have a chance. But someone like her still needs to primary him to push him to the left. 

What purpose will it do? The DNC won't even have to try hard invisibilize her. They simply won't be holding debates at all, and Biden will be nominated by default. Neither party holds legitimate primaries when an incumbent president runs for re-election: they've learned from Jimmy Carter and HW Bush's devastating losses after one term due to becoming damaged goods as a result of damaging primaries where the incumbents' abysmal records selling out the American people are more heavily scrutinized.

[Orsay]

We will be voting for her at the primaries

[Martyr Of Fame]

Frances Fisher has been openly campaigning for her so Biden better watch out

[ZIVERT]

This sentient glass of chardonnay returns for more  

[WildAmerican]

1 minute ago, Martyr Of Fame said:

Frances Fisher has been openly campaigning for her so Biden better watch out

is she the leader of the white woman's cabal to get that rando an oscar nomination nn

[James_Dean]

Yay new gifs!

[ClashAndBurn]

29 minutes ago, Communion said:

Running against Biden is the moral thing to do so I am glad she's got the courage to do it. 

I don't really see how it's moral to fundraise from the grassroots poor for a hopelessly doomed campaign that won't get even a percentage of the media exposure that Biden, Trump and DeSantis will get. It's genuinely a fake, pointless campaign that will do absolutely nothing to shift Biden to the left or more importantly stop him from shifting to the right given the health industry profiteer he's bringing on as his new Chief of Staff.  

[Mtjjproducer]

51 minutes ago, Distantconstellation said:

I agree she doesn't have a chance. But someone like her still needs to primary him to push him to the left. 

Not going to happen. He already beat her once in 2020 and beat Bernie who is more left and that hasn’t changed his positions much if at all. You’re living in a fantasy. She has likely 6 month in this race at most and that’s being generous 

 

she is wasting her time and likely doing this for press and sales for her books. She has zero political office expierence and isn’t popular like a trump was so a race that has any chance. 

[Bubble Tea]

I can't believe y'all have an 80 year old president like that is OLD. Surely someone like Marianne should be considered.

[Sanctuary]

You love to see Biden challenged from the left, so I support her!

 

I will probably vote for her in the TX primary (if she makes it that far )

[.CMA.]

I once served her while she was on the campaign trail a few years ago.  She was having a small event talking to students from UNLV about issues.  She was super nice.  Tipped well :]

 

That's all lol.

[ClashAndBurn]

6 minutes ago, Tropical said:

I can't believe y'all have an 80 year old president like that is OLD. Surely someone like Marianne should be considered.

Nobody other than Biden will be seriously considered, because nobody on the Democratic side of the aisle has a chance at winning the presidency other than Biden. Their bench is made up of candidates who are deeply unpopular, extremely unelectable, or both (especially the most likely successors to Biden: Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg). The Dems' future AFTER Biden looks extremely bleak.  

[Bloo]

It’s good when (alleged) Democratic processes have options for people to vote. Running against an incumbent takes courage, so good for her. I’d gladly vote for her over Biden just to make a statement even if her chances are nonexistent. We need more challenges to the status quo in general.

[Communion]

44 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

I don't really see how it's moral to fundraise 

I don't think anyone is under the impression she will have a Bernie-style donation pool. I personally would only donate if the DNC pulled some gross tricks about leveraging such criteria when it came to the debates.

 

The reality is that what Democrats want is for no one to run. They do not want friction

 

They do not want the friction of having to address debates, of having to address representation of the left, of having to address intra-party conflicts and ideology chasms within the party itself. 

 

Anything that makes the Democratic Party uncomfortable benefits the left. And so I support that being done. I can understand the fear / annoyance that figures would do primary challenges but ultimately just shepherd disaffected voices back into the Democratic  party post-primary, but such is easy to avoid if one remains steadfast in their belief that they can't be told, by anyone, to vote for a party they are not ideologically aligned. 

 

Anything that takes up air in the room and forces Democrats into uncomfortable spaces is good to me. We should all remember no one wanted Bernie to run against Hillary in 2016 and so it should be examined why the powers that be want the same again for 2024.

Edited February 24, 2023 by Communion

[Mtjjproducer]

14 minutes ago, Tropical said:

I can't believe y'all have an 80 year old president like that is OLD. Surely someone like Marianne should be considered.

Her ass is 70 she’s OLD too lol

[ClashAndBurn]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

I don't think anyone is under the impression she will have a Bernie-style donation pool. I personally would only donate if the DNC pulled some gross tricks about leveraging such criteria when it came to the debates.

 

The reality is that what Democrats want is for no one to run. They do not want friction

 

They do not want the friction of having to address debates, of having to address representation of the left, of having to address intra-party conflicts and ideology chasms within the party itself. 

 

Anything that makes the Democratic Party uncomfortable benefits the left. And so I support that being done. I can understand the fear / annoyance that figures would do primary challenges but ultimately just shepherd disaffected voices back into the Democratic primary, but such is simply avoid as a worry if one remains steadfast in their belief that they can't be told, by anyone, to vote for a party that is not ideologically aligned. 

 

Anything that takes up air in the room and forces Democrats into uncomfortable spaces is good to me.

I just don't think there will be any debates at all, and the Democrat-aligned media won't cover her, interview her, and it will be like she's not even running at all. Will pollsters even bother conducting polling?

 

Given she won't even be given a voice or a stage, I don't see the Democratic Party getting made uncomfortable by her. They'd be much more worried about a Joe Manchin presidential run challenging him from the right imo.

 

That point about shepherding disaffected voices back to voting for Democrats is an interesting one, because that was the impression I'd gotten from her... rather disastrous appearance on RBN which ended in Compton Jay and another contributor entering the call early for their segment and making her feel ambushed leading to her leaving ahead of schedule and frustrating the **** out of Sabrina (and Nick who was seething that he couldn't get a soundbite of her supporting Ukraine to poison her image)  

[Archetype]

6 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Her ass is 70 she’s OLD too lol

Those crystals must be doing something because she looks at least 15 years younger 

 

@OP If no one better primaries against Biden, I will vote for her just to annoy the DNC. 

[Bears01]

Takes guts to challenge an incumbent. I just wish someone with an actual chance would step up to the plate, because america does NOT want Kamala or Pete 

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

I just don't think there will be any debates at all, and the Democrat-aligned media won't cover her, interview her, and it will be like she's not even running at all. Will pollsters even bother conducting polling?

 

Given she won't even be given a voice or a stage, I don't see the Democratic Party getting made uncomfortable by her. They'd be much more worried about a Joe Manchin presidential run challenging him from the right imo.

 

That point about shepherding disaffected voices back to voting for Democrats is an interesting one, because that was the impression I'd gotten from her... rather disastrous appearance on RBN which ended in Compton Jay and another contributor entering the call early for their segment and making her feel ambushed leading to her leaving ahead of schedule and frustrating the **** out of Sabrina (and Nick who was seething that he couldn't get a soundbite of her supporting Ukraine to poison her image)  

I think better then to have a body there to force the question of just why such is allowed to happen. 

 

Again, I'm not arguing that she should be personally inspiring or convincing for any particular individual. I'm not advocating her candidacy. I'm simply speaking on the logistics of a primary in the context of someone who holds no personal commitments to voting for a right-wing Dem party. Any avenues to expose those right-wing contradictions at the heart of the Democratic establishment is good - that was Bernie's only goal in 2016 to begin with.

 

I also think a lot has changed since 2020 that would be a shame to not take advantage of; Biden essentially became the nominee in 2020 pre-pandemic and pre-TikTok. Youth voter disillusionment has been an issue for Dems and I'm more than fine if Marianne serves as the catalyst for which millions young people threaten not to vote for Biden against Trump in 2024 via viral TikToks because that's a discomfort I think the Dem party elite should have to feel. 

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and i said girlfriend you are so RIGHT!

[Communion]

1 hour ago, DONTYELLATME said:

Drop the anti medicine and  magic crystals  stuff and maybe we can take you seriously 

She's not anti-science and is actually way smarter than Biden on healthcare policy.