Ash12345 Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Consider the following scenario. It's 5am and you're a 22 year old man, sleeping in his room on the upper floor of your 2 storey house, when you're awakened by noises downstairs. It sounds like there's people walking around. You quietly get out of your room and peek down the stairs. You notice a group of young men you've never seen before looking around, two of which are holding handguns. Then you hear a gasp from your mother, who sleeps on the main floor bedroom, and the men rush in her direction. You can't see what's happening because it's outside of your line of sight at this point, but you can hear that there's some sort of physical struggle. You're a licensed gun owner, and have taken firearms classes and done target practice in the past couple of years, and there's a hand gun and bullets locked in a safe in the office, also located upstairs. So far, the men have not gone upstairs and have not seen you, and seen to be occupied with your mother. What do you do?
HeavyMetalAura Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) Absolutely shoot them. Is this something that people are actually divided on? Genuinely asking. Considering there are guns involved I’m assuming it’s liberals who would in theory disagree, but I’ve never heard of any liberals (I am one, to be clear) saying that would be wrong to do. Edit: I mean, okay, maybe I tell them to step away and drop the guns before I shoot them, but it’s 2AM, they might shoot me first, and my mom’s life is at risk, so I’d probably shoot them without giving them the chance to step away. Frankly I don’t even care if they don’t have guns. You break into my house at 2AM and attack my mom, pow pow *****. Edited February 22, 2023 by HeavyMetalAura
gustavothehuman Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) The right thing would be shooting to immobilize, not kill. Guns should be like cars in the sense you need to be physically and mentally stable to own a license to use them (with the former needing the strictest laws of course). Edited February 22, 2023 by gustavothehuman
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Mordecai Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Shooting them is a bit of a no brainer tbh, especially in that kind of scenario where you'd be very reactionary. I wouldn't go for the chest or head or anything but the leg or arm to let them know I'm not playing around. Self defence is all about proportionality. If someone punches you, that doesn't give you the right to empty your gun by shooting them at point blank.
Mr. Mendes Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Shoot them, but I don't know that you should be shooting to kill. Incapacitation can be just as effective.
JanStan Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Shoot them to KILL them ASAP. They are in your house and have guns. Like…some of y’all are insane to think about caring about their lives when you have no idea what they will do to get what they want. Plus people like that are literal trash and shouldn’t be on this earth.
Navy4Life Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 People who break into your house carrying guns are human garbage and clearly wouldn’t have an issue with shooting me so shoot to kill. Thankfully I live in a place where they don’t sell guns in supermarkets so armed robberies are not a thing.
loveisdead9582 Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Yes. I do absolutely believe in self defense. If someone breaks into your home, you should be able to defend yourself/your loved ones. I know that in the USA some states say that you are required to issue some sort of warning before you open fire. In a few of those states there is enough wiggle room to get yourself out of any legal ramifications if you truly were defending yourself/your family or other residents if they were in the house. Personally, if you break into my home you will be met with equal or greater force. I have cameras outside of my house capturing all movement into or around any/all entrances. This can also be a negative as we’ve seen when some people invite someone over and then try to claim that they “broke in” or “arrived unannounced”.
dussel_06 Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Yes. It’s kill or be killed situation. Plus your loved ones are in danger. You can shoot them on the foot but that’s still risky because they have guns and can still shoot back.
Devin Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Anyone breaking in my crib is getting shot. No ifs, ands, buts, or semantics. + they have guns too and 99.9% won’t care about shooting me or my parent so
liver Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 shoot them even if my gun isn't registered/I'm not a licensed gun owner nothing matters more than the safety of my family
perpetual novice Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 It depends why they are there. If they just want to steal my **** they can take it, I have insurance, and nobody dies. If they want to hurt me or my family they're getting shot.
FOCK Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Lmfao @ people shooting at a group with handguns. Good luck to ya. What are you defending yourself from at this stage? They’re likely there for theft, and the punishment for theft is not death. Y’all sound like cops/people with no emergency training. The answer is comply with their requests, don’t volunteer information, take mental note of what they say, how they behave and their appearance, evacuate/escape if safe to do so & contact the relevant authorities. The other answer is, move to a country that isn’t actually ****** enough to allow access to guns.
RunUpDoneUp Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 I run back upstairs because I already took out a life insurance policy on her and I wait for them to leave. I go through the regular grieving routine as expected and cash the cheque 3 months after.
Ash12345 Posted February 22, 2023 Author Posted February 22, 2023 17 hours ago, gustavothehuman said: The right thing would be shooting to immobilize, not kill. Guns should be like cars in the sense you need to be physically and mentally stable to own a license to use them (with the former needing the strictest laws of course). How do you shoot to immobilize someone that's holding a gun?
magazine Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 I'd be in Europe where this doesn't happen!
UnusualBoy Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Shoot but not to kill, just to immobilize them like in the arm, legs or so.
masterbaiter Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 8 hours ago, FOCK said: Lmfao @ people shooting at a group with handguns. Good luck to ya. What are you defending yourself from at this stage? They’re likely there for theft, and the punishment for theft is not death. Y’all sound like cops/people with no emergency training. The answer is comply with their requests, don’t volunteer information, take mental note of what they say, how they behave and their appearance, evacuate/escape if safe to do so & contact the relevant authorities. The other answer is, move to a country that isn’t actually ****** enough to allow access to guns. I agree.
masterbaiter Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, magazine said: I'd be in Europe where this doesn't happen! Yes! Replace gun with knife 😍
Ash12345 Posted February 22, 2023 Author Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said: Shoot but not to kill, just to immobilize them like in the arm, legs or so. You could try to shoot them in the arm, although that's a fairly small target and you'd have to get pretty close to maximize your chances of hitting it, which increases the risk of them noticing you/shooting you first. Even if the bullet does hit them in the arm, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that their hand will be sufficiently immobilized that they won't shoot back. They could also try to pass the gun to their other hand to shoot back. There is a decent chance that they'll run away, after all predators tend to only go after much weaker prey that has little chance of hurting them unless they're super desperate, but they might still shoot back at you as they cover their retreat.
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