TalkThatRihanna Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Pink rightfully flopping for releasing the worst album of her career And SZA rightfully staying PUT at #1 @Reverse Warholian
family.guy123 Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Communion said: Have P!nk fans been like..... mean to Beyonce or something? That y'all are itching to scratch some revenge itch? Cause no one would reasonably compare Beyonce and P!nk. Of course Beyonce is in a different caliber than P!nk. Has anyone tried to pretend otherwise? Pink has tried to be used to bring Beyoncé down for years now
gustavothehuman Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Ivan_brit said: didnt they end up doing a double album maybe that's why. Enemy turned things around for the era before they released Act 2, Bones while smaller was also a hit.
gloamingtheplain Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Pinks last album did more damage than good imo. Full of BT rejects and it shows.
gloamingtheplain Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, TalkThatRihanna said: Pink rightfully flopping for releasing the worst album of her career And SZA rightfully staying PUT at #1 @Reverse Warholian This album is nowhere near as bad as H2BH what are you talking about
brianc33710 Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Machete said: Billboard removing bundling was the best decision they could’ve done. Had this been released in bundling era it would’ve done +150K and still look like a cute success, when it’s just people who are buying tickets to see her old music and zero interest in her new things. I am at the opposite end. While I do see bundling problems I also really miss people actually buying albums. Now YouTube freeloaders have way too much say in deciding each weeks #1 album. Well under 100K bothered to buy Bad Bunny's album & it still was #1 for 2022 ahead of albums people actually spent their hard earned money to buy.
Bey'Knight Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Anticipating said: Shakira, Britney and Beyoncé have all scored scored Top 10 hits within the past 6 months. P!nk is selling out stadiums (as is Beyoncé, obviously). Most of them are still seeing success one way or another. It's really just a couple that are completely over. Even if they achieved none of that, these women literally have nothing left to prove anymore. No artist in the history of music stays on top forever (except maybe Taylor cus she’s still hungry, maybe marriage and motherhood will change that). It’s unrealistic to hold them to the standard of their peaks.
Yuanyu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bey'Knight said: Even if they achieved none of that, these women literally have nothing left to prove anymore. No artist in the history of music stays on top forever (except maybe Taylor cus she’s still hungry, maybe marriage and motherhood will change that). It’s unrealistic to hold them to the standard of their peaks. Taylor is 33 years old, she belongs to a completely different generation than Pink, Beyoncé, Alicia, Christina, Britney, and others.
Green Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 7 hours ago, gloamingtheplain said: This album is nowhere near as bad as H2BH what are you talking about This. People are judging the album based on the lead single. But Trustfall and the rest of the album is actually good Hurts 2 Be Human is easily her worst album
spiritboy Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Solid numbers. Pink chose to be a soccer mom singer with the last few albums so she lost her cool factor with younger generations. She'll be fine as long as her tours keep selling out though.
truthteller Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 P!nk doing merely 10K more units than Mitski
PoisonPill Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Another reason why it's a shame she didn't get the SB halftime show. Not only were we robbed of a spectacular show, but her first week sales would've been many x higher.
PoisonPill Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Yuanyu said: Taylor is 33 years old, she belongs to a completely different generation than Pink, Beyoncé, Alicia, Christina, Britney, and others. Technically they're all millennials (Taylor being mid-millennial, Ariana young millennial and the others being older millennial). But it does feel like their cultural gens are different because of when they debuted.
Yuanyu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, PoisonPill said: Technically they're all millennials (Taylor being mid-millennial, Ariana young millennial and the others being older millennial). But it does feel like their cultural gens are different because of when they debuted. You can't be serious, if you think a 30 year old female artist can be compared to a 40 year old in terms of commercial success you don't know much about the music market. But come on, Beyonce at Taylor's current age released Beyonce which was a success in a much lower music market in terms of sales than the current one and is certified in more than 16 countries. Pink released The Truth About Love, certified in 19 countries and 9xplatinum in Australia. Mariah at 35 released The Emancipation of Mimi, we all know how successful it was.
Axelios Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: You can't be serious, if you think a 30 year old female artist can be compared to a 40 year old in terms of commercial success you don't know much about the music market. But come on, Beyonce at Taylor's current age released Beyonce which was a success in a much lower music market in terms of sales than the current one and is certified in more than 16 countries. No?
Yuanyu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, Axelios said: No? You are welcome US total sales 2013 - 415.3M US total sales 2022 - 893.1M
Axelios Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: You are welcome US total sales 2013 - 415.3M US total sales 2022 - 893.1M Source? Albums released in the last few years clearly do less than they used to in the early 2010s in the US
Yuanyu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Axelios said: Source? Albums released in the last few years clearly do less than they used to in the early 2010s in the US Source? Nielsen and Luminate reports lol
Axelios Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: Source? Nielsen and Luminate reports lol Ok but even then just comparing the totals is wrong. You'd need to compare the average units of an album released in 2013 to one compared in 2022 especially with how catalog records claims a majority of music consumption nowadays.
Yuanyu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Axelios said: Ok but even then just comparing the totals is wrong. You'd need to compare the average units of an album released in 2013 to one compared in 2022 especially with how catalog records claims a majority of music consumption nowadays. You can do all the mental gymnastics you want, the reality is that in 2022 the music market sells much more than in 2013, which is what I said in my initial post and it is not something I made up (as you implied), it is a reality that everyone talking about music should at least know
PoisonPill Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Yuanyu said: You can't be serious, if you think a 30 year old female artist can be compared to a 40 year old in terms of commercial success you don't know much about the music market. But come on, Beyonce at Taylor's current age released Beyonce which was a success in a much lower music market in terms of sales than the current one and is certified in more than 16 countries. Pink released The Truth About Love, certified in 19 countries and 9xplatinum in Australia. Mariah at 35 released The Emancipation of Mimi, we all know how successful it was. Lol, I never said that though. I said that 33 year old Taylor and 41 year old Beyonce are technically in the same millennial age group, but they are in different cultural generations.
PopNStuff Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) On 2/18/2023 at 10:49 AM, Anticipating said: Liberation had tour bundles and that was also half a decade ago. Xtina's last project debuted with 4K copies. OT: A least P!nk is cracking 50K This is about Pink, not Xtina but since y'all wanna bring Xtina into this (like Pink) at least speak the facts. I only see certain fanbases using this number, but never saw any official sites post it. 1. Chartdata just confirmed that Aguilera has sold 30K. So the math doesn't quite add up for whoever started the 4K rumor. 2. Xtina never released physical nor vinyl copies of Aguilera, a Spanish album, and had a messy roll-out to begin with, so 40K is a good start. 3. Even girls like Becky G and Annita who have been dominating Latin music barely crack the Billboard 200, Becky G did like 10K first week and had Mami, while Annita did not crack the 200 and had Envolver. So not sure what y'all are expecting. Edited February 19, 2023 by PopNStuff
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