ciara Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 9 hours ago, ccfan007 said: This is picking up a little steam on Tik Tok, over 7,000 videos were created yesterday using the sound. Not saying that those are viral numbers or anything but it's something! It’s not translating to streams or single sales, so it really serves no justice at all
Power love Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 6:13 AM, St. Francis said: My God, you're nearly quoting everyone in the thread
SchmoodRing Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) On 3/29/2023 at 6:50 PM, CristianGarcia said: I was referring in general Da Girls - Cheap Better Thangz - Cheap Jump- Wasted budget, no artistic growth and trash song Rooted - Cheap Thinkin Bout You - Cheap Dose - Cheap Freak Me - Cheap mv snippet Level Up - Cheap but done properly ATP Ciara needs to be giving quality or call it a career cause she’s tainting her discography. I understand in the past she’s spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on videos and got no where but she has businesses now and is married to a man worth $150 million dollars. There’s no excuse… Chris Brown, Maluma etc. kept releasing quality until something stuck. Ciara has been half assed for years now and takes too long of breaks between singles. what makes this even more alarming is that she has a chris brown collab in the vault and releases this instead of that? On 3/29/2023 at 10:10 AM, FantasyRide said: I do kinda feel like everything she’s put out this era has been missing a female rap artist feature so a remix for Da Girls (if she absolutely insists on sticking with this song) is probably for the best. Timing has never been on her side because I’m still trying to understand why Better Thangs was released during Autumn…it’s giving Harleys in Hawaii weird release schedule (which is kinda the sound Ciara should have been going for btw). latto and meg are right there why can't she hit up someone relevant to throw her a bone On 3/31/2023 at 5:41 AM, MusicandSoul said: jesus christ she needs to just release all her unreleased from back in the day and just retire. Its a wrap for Ci ci. which unrelease from back in the day should she release? On 3/31/2023 at 8:09 AM, Mornings said: Alright, so I'm thankful for all the artists Ciara has influenced, but they are EATING her UP! LAYA has been doing Ciara's sour, base-heavy debut sound since she came out and its everything. when I listen to this I think, DAMN Ci ITS RIGHT HERE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS! This is how you do CI's Crunk&B sound but modern and relevant, but she chooses these P!nk equivalent wet blanket empowerment songs. lookwise she's giving doja lol this sound is more rap then cici On 3/31/2023 at 8:35 AM, KING ACE said: It’s obvious she doesn’t have a legit management/team to guide her correctly. there is absolutely no logic in what she’s doing…….in fact she's working backwards can someone, anyone come for and rightfully clock her asap because this is so sad like big time. the overall decline is just wild 1 hour ago, ciara said: No cause her dumb ass always waits for the hype to die down and tease it none stop to then release it. She’s literally her worst enemy when it comes to marketing. she's like nicole scherzinger except she releases music lol Edited April 3, 2023 by SchmoodRing
KING ACE Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) why isn't she promoting her songs anywhere else outside tik tok and ig stories? Edited April 3, 2023 by KING ACE
ciara Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 8 hours ago, KING ACE said: why isn't she promoting her songs anywhere else outside tik tok and ig stories? Because she’s completely relying on those platforms to sell her music which is a reflection on why the music has been trash since Level Up dropped.
KING ACE Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, ciara said: Because she’s completely relying on those platforms to sell her music which is a reflection on why the music has been trash since Level Up dropped. Well that’s dumb……. Of course the music isn’t gonna go anywhere…….no shade but she doesn’t have a lot of fanfare to just completely rely on that………. This is why a lot of her new music is DOA. She needs to stop this formula it literally doesn’t work. Her going independent it’s the worst thing she could’ve done: - mid music - cheap videos - trash marketing, nonexistent promotion - no direction in literally anything why did people even celebrate her going independent? Edited April 4, 2023 by KING ACE
CristianGarcia Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 She just needs to give us another Promise or a Ride…. It could all be so easy for her lol
KING ACE Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 7:10 PM, CristianGarcia said: She just needs to give us another Promise or a Ride…. It could all be so easy for her lol I've been saying this since 2015, and she completely ignores that sound & gives us try hard "empire" music.
sweetkiss Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 Just now, sweetkiss said: i dont get her obsession with getting viral moment, ok i get level up did that, but you cant duplicate success of of it. she should just drop some album and stans are gonna listen in peace i dont see mary j blige making a fool out of herself for good morning gorgeous and she still got awarded and respect.
sweetkiss Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 5:01 AM, SchmoodRing said: people actually care and like her as a person. i actually disagree with you, i see more backlash than support. it reminds me of jlo situation, you know its one of the best performers ever living and its always backlash 'but shes not good vocalist' 'but shes corny' , 'but she tries too hard', 'but she acts phony', its always something
mylicious Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/5/2023 at 1:10 AM, CristianGarcia said: She just needs to give us another Promise or a Ride…. It could all be so easy for her lol or Body Party ❤️
KING ACE Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) The problem is she still making music like her fans are still 16 or something. Ciara is not tapped into her audience or what ppl want from her. That’s the issue. That's why her most current releases aren't clicking and her fanbase are dwindling every-time she releases a new song. Like,sis we all grown at this point like keep relating to us so we can continue supporting you Her actual audience and the audience she wants do not align Edited April 6, 2023 by KING ACE
Attitude Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 None of the fans caring enough to update her wikipedia page.
stephen1108 Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 So she not gonna actually drop that rap remix she posted?
KING ACE Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, stephen1108 said: So she not gonna actually drop that rap remix she posted? looks like it.........Ci is independent and she and her team are honestly dumb & unaware as hell. They dont know what they are doing at all this era, they are not making the best choices. Edited April 8, 2023 by KING ACE
FantasyRide Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 Songs like Promise, Ride and Body Party are once in a career moments. She can’t just simply give us a rehash because it won’t hit the same so she absolutely should be experimenting and trying new sounds (especially at this point where her mainstream appeal has already dwindled), she’s just not making interesting artistic choices. I wonder if she’s ever reached out to the indie alt-r&b girls like Solange, Kelala, Kelis, etc. I’m sure they would know exactly what to do with her.
Cbreezy Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, FantasyRide said: Songs like Promise, Ride and Body Party are once in a career moments. She can’t just simply give us a rehash because it won’t hit the same so she absolutely should be experimenting and trying new sounds (especially at this point where her mainstream appeal has already dwindled), she’s just not making interesting artistic choices. I wonder if she’s ever reached out to the indie alt-r&b girls like Solange, Kelala, Kelis, etc. I’m sure they would know exactly what to do with her. Very valid points all around about Promise, Ride, and Body Party. I agree that she shouldn't be trying to rehash that sound, but someone needs to get in her ear about not trying to rehash the Crunk sound nor dated takes on her heyday either. There is no justification for her releasing trash like Jump, Better Thangs, For Da Girls, and most of Beauty Marks and Jackie. Wackness like Rooted and Melanin too. Experimenting actually has worked to her favor with songs like Painted Black (Alt) and Freak Me (Afrobeats), so it's bizarre that she doesn't do it more. It seems now she's trying to finally carve out a definitive angle (hyper-positive lyrics) but the dismally dated production and commitment to NOT evolving in a more measured manner is the issue. She's a beast on stage but has THEE most horrible ear for good music (much less a hit). It's insanely bad. Honestly, some of this feels like wasted keystrokes. She's nearing 40 in an industry that sadly puts the girls out to pasture at 30. Body Party was 10 years ago. 10 YEARS AGO. Her best bet IMO is securing another Level Up, if only to periodically re-fill her commercial opportunities and maintain a base level interest in her music output. At least enough to tour every so often. But, even then, what's the point if she can't follow it up with anything sustainable? If she doesn't tend to her issues, it'll keep being a case of diminishing returns. Edited April 8, 2023 by Cbreezy
Power love Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Jackie Not you coming for Jackie. I have a strong feeling we aren’t getting a new album. She’s going to just disappear you watch. All the negativity she’s been getting. Such a shame so talented. Somebody is setting her up with this music choices
KING ACE Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) It seems that no one around her is being honest with her about the quality of her music. She needs better writers and producers. Whoever she has been working with has not helped her find a sound that is unique, captivating and timeless. Her recent music these past few years is very disposable. Edited April 9, 2023 by KING ACE
KING ACE Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) On 4/2/2023 at 10:34 PM, ciara said: No cause her dumb ass always waits for the hype to die down and tease it none stop to then release it. She’s literally her worst enemy when it comes to marketing. Well, she is now releasing it 3 weeks later..........and we already heard the other girls verses in FULL........I swear who ever is in charge here is CLEARLY an idiot Edited April 13, 2023 by KING ACE
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted April 12, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 12, 2023 Releasing a song after teasing it for weeks/months is literally what everyone does nowadays. Lil Nas teased Montero for almost a year and Olivia did the same with Drivers License. You can disagree with the strategy but she's not crazy for doing it. The song is cute but I can understand why people don't love it. The quality of the music is the biggest issue here. Nothing else really matters until she stops trying to make music that her kids can listen to.
KING ACE Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Marvin said: Releasing a song after teasing it for weeks/months is literally what everyone does nowadays. Lil Nas teased Montero for almost a year and Olivia did the same with Drivers License. You can disagree with the strategy but she's not crazy for doing it. The song is cute but I can understand why people don't love it. The quality of the music is the biggest issue here. Nothing else really matters until she stops trying to make music that her kids can listen to. I dont like the way she teases though, she literally adversely teased the whole song.......before it was officially out. she also teases the other girls verses (in full) before its out too.....it doesn't make sense. She teases music like were still in the early 2000's....we are not and ppl's attention span is is too short. and yes, a lot of her newer music is "dumbed down" and we are over it, and see right through it Edited April 13, 2023 by KING ACE
SchmoodRing Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 2:55 AM, sweetkiss said: i actually disagree with you, i see more backlash than support. it reminds me of jlo situation, you know its one of the best performers ever living and its always backlash 'but shes not good vocalist' 'but shes corny' , 'but she tries too hard', 'but she acts phony', its always something this started happening when she got with Russell and its like people felt sometype of way about all the good karma that came her way in her personal life On 4/8/2023 at 11:29 AM, FantasyRide said: Songs like Promise, Ride and Body Party are once in a career moments. She can’t just simply give us a rehash because it won’t hit the same so she absolutely should be experimenting and trying new sounds (especially at this point where her mainstream appeal has already dwindled), she’s just not making interesting artistic choices. I wonder if she’s ever reached out to the indie alt-r&b girls like Solange, Kelala, Kelis, etc. I’m sure they would know exactly what to do with her. then for that i'd rather her reach out to tinashe On 4/8/2023 at 7:46 PM, Power love said: Not you coming for Jackie. I have a strong feeling we aren’t getting a new album. She’s going to just disappear you watch. All the negativity she’s been getting. Such a shame so talented. Somebody is setting her up with this music choices seems to be that she's setting herself up and no one is giving her a reality check. if we don't get an album i'll scream. also we need a proper tour that's not derailed due to yet another damn pregnancy. i'd also love if her and usher co headlined the next superbowl that would be amazing. let's hope that we still get an album please don't put that kind of negativity out there i'd die lol On 4/12/2023 at 1:59 PM, Marvin said: Releasing a song after teasing it for weeks/months is literally what everyone does nowadays. Lil Nas teased Montero for almost a year and Olivia did the same with Drivers License. You can disagree with the strategy but she's not crazy for doing it. The song is cute but I can understand why people don't love it. The quality of the music is the biggest issue here. Nothing else really matters until she stops trying to make music that her kids can listen to. are you really comparing CIARA who is obviously well past her commercial prime and peak to the new kids on the block that are smashing? it doesn't make sense
ciara Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 What was the point of that. Literally she can **** in a cup and her 8 remaining stans will come to her defense
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