Communion Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, St. Francis said: You can disagree with her without comparing her to Nazis. What do you call people like Rowling who demand the elimination of trans people from public life?
heckinglovato Posted February 18, 2023 Author Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Communion said: What do you call people like Rowling who demand the elimination of trans people from public life? !!! they're quick to jump & say that JKR isn't a nazi but her anti-trans behavior, which excludes an entire group of marginalized people (and puts them at an increased risk), is definitely much closer to nazism than not
commander Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Communion said: What do you call people like Rowling who demand the elimination of trans people from public life? Bingo
Aethereal Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 17 hours ago, Communion said: What do you call people like Rowling who demand the elimination of trans people from public life? And @Headlock From JK Rowling essay: I want to be very clear here: I know transition will be a solution for some gender dysphoric people, although I’m also aware through extensive research that studies have consistently shown that between 60-90% of gender dysphoric teens will grow out of their dysphoria. Again and again I’ve been told to ‘just meet some trans people.’ I have: in addition to a few younger people, who were all adorable, I happen to know a self-described transsexual woman who’s older than I am and wonderful. Although she’s open about her past as a gay man, I’ve always found it hard to think of her as anything other than a woman, and I believe (and certainly hope) she’s completely happy to have transitioned. Being older, though, she went through a long and rigorous process of evaluation, psychotherapy and staged transformation. The current explosion of trans activism is urging a removal of almost all the robust systems through which candidates for sex reassignment were once required to pass. A man who intends to have no surgery and take no hormones may now secure himself a Gender Recognition Certificate and be a woman in the sight of the law. Many people aren’t aware of this. Now from my analysis it seems that JK Rowling supports transition for only a small percentage of Trans Women and probably most of which are only attracted to men. This falls in line from what I have seen from TERF arguments that trans women who are only attracted to men are more likely to suffer from gender dysphoria while trans women who are attracted to women are seen as fetishizers. However I am not sure if she would welcome those "accepted" Trans Women in female spaces. (Probably not.) I also would not be surprised if JK Rowling believes majority or at least a large proportion of Trans Women are fetishizers given her tweets about rape and crimes. I am 99.9% sure she believes it but she is not vocal about it.
Betty White Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 4:17 AM, Headlock said: Not you classifying JK’s views as feminism. Sis, you’re so close to saying what you truly think, just let your TERF flag fly Something tells me you don't know what feminism is. I hope you get it together.
RunUpDoneUp Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Isn't it HILARIOUS that the BILLIONAIRE, UNIVERSALLY SUCCESSFUL woman who wants to "debate" gender nonsense is suing detractors? Kinda a conversation ender, huh? But she TOTALLY isn't like a conservative mom scolding her child who asks her why she's being racist. This woman and her supporters are literally incapable of walking the talk, they're empty vessels of conservative genocide. No arguments, no retorts, just silencing. Pretty cancel culture-y if you ask me
Theshigo Washidu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 11:53 PM, Communion said: What do you call people like Rowling who demand the elimination of trans people from public life? I don't recall her ever demanding this. I thought she supported trans people, but didn't want them classified with cis-women?
AvadaKedavra Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) Imagine havin all that money and dedicating your free time to hate people. Damn. What a sad life. She could do amazing things for the community and have incredible experiences with all that wealth. I love Harry Potter with all my heart but this has stained the franchise. Still, i think Harry Potter belongs to the world. Once a product is out it belongs to the people. They gave her money and dedication to her product, so it belongs to us too. The transgender community goes through tribulations their whole life. Rowling one of the most important public figures of the world This will make their life harder and turn so many people to violence-hate. Hope one day she realizes how wrong she is........ Edited February 19, 2023 by AvadaKedavra
Betty White Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 hours ago, RunUpDoneUp said: Isn't it HILARIOUS that the BILLIONAIRE, UNIVERSALLY SUCCESSFUL woman who wants to "debate" gender nonsense is suing detractors? Kinda a conversation ender, huh? But she TOTALLY isn't like a conservative mom scolding her child who asks her why she's being racist. This woman and her supporters are literally incapable of walking the talk, they're empty vessels of conservative genocide. No arguments, no retorts, just silencing. Pretty cancel culture-y if you ask me And who tried debating her? Since her very first Tweet she has been getting cancelled, harassed, doxed, threatened and people have been spreading shameless lies about her, sometimes taking her words ouf of context and sometimes completely fabricating them. If people were actually trying to explain their position and have a civil discussion, I really doubt she would start suing anyone.
Headlock Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Betty White said: Something tells me you don't know what feminism is. I hope you get it together. Transphobia is not feminism
Headlock Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Betty White said: And who tried debating her? Since her very first Tweet she has been getting cancelled, harassed, doxed, threatened and people have been spreading shameless lies about her, sometimes taking her words ouf of context and sometimes completely fabricating them. If people were actually trying to explain their position and have a civil discussion, I really doubt she would start suing anyone. Not you victimizing the billionaire transphobic white woman
Betty White Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, Headlock said: Not you victimizing the billionaire transphobic white woman Not you pretending like being white or rich magically erases misogyny
Communion Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Betty White said: Not you pretending like being white or rich magically erases misogyny What exactly is the psychological fulfillment in posting trollish anti-trans hot-takes to a low activity pop forum largely populated by gays? What are you getting out of this by posting things you know are transphobic?
Betty White Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, Communion said: What exactly is the psychological fulfillment in posting trollish anti-trans hot-takes to a low activity pop forum largely populated by gays? What are you getting out of this by posting things you know are transphobic? Saying that women face misogyny even if they are rich or white is not transphobia. What psychological fulfillment do you get from writing essays upon essays arguing with everyone who doesn't share your opinion? Any time I enter a topic I know I'm gonna see 50 paragraphs of your virtue signaling. You also always seem to completely miss the point of every comment you are replying to and just pretend it said something that would justify you having an argument with someone. At this point, you are definitely doing it on purpose.
Communion Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Betty White said: Saying that trans people should not exist in public life, as Rowling does, is transphobia. Correct. So why do you still feel the desire to hate trans people on a digital space?
Headlock Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Betty White said: Not you pretending like being white or rich magically erases misogyny It doesn’t, but good thing that has nothing to do with JK’s virulent transphobia
Attitude Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 She and Elon Musk give loser energy. They have their billions and instead of going off and enjoying their lives they love to stick their noses where it doesn't belong. Miserable people.
RunUpDoneUp Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/19/2023 at 2:50 PM, Betty White said: And who tried debating her? Since her very first Tweet she has been getting cancelled, harassed, doxed, threatened and people have been spreading shameless lies about her, sometimes taking her words ouf of context and sometimes completely fabricating them. If people were actually trying to explain their position and have a civil discussion, I really doubt she would start suing anyone. When people first really took notice about her crazy beliefs was when she did her poorly written manifesto where she laid it all out and was DRAGGED, like 2 years ago(?) I honestly don't remember and people were clamoring to talk to her to correct her nonsense because they KNEW that if she held onto her dummy positions she'd be exactly where she is today; a regular conservative white woman, lmao. She had chance on chance to correct herself, she's literally so rich she can pay people to actually teach her the science but she isn't interested in honest discourse, she has made up her mind and she's gonna destroy as many lives as she can. She was given grace upon grace for longer than she deserved because people honestly believed she was a good person with good intent. People defended her after she called trans women rapists, that's actual proud boy, kkk clan member kind of position. She hurt millions of her fans worldwide because she wants to be the "man leading the crusade" against the evil danger she crafted. She's an embarrassment as an author and has set feminism's public image back decades by reinforcing gender roles and endangering her fellow women's access to needed gender affirming care. She agrees with men who want her in the kitchen and regularly endorses rightwingers. She's lost the plot(like she usually does in her novels) and hurt her once cemented legacy. She will not be remembered well at all, mostly because her work isn't good enough but her social standing made up for it, now she's erasing that too. People like her NEVER win, society always advances, it's in our nature and liars always get revealed.
Femalien Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Anyone listen to the Witch Trials of JK Rowling that dropped today? I am a Megan Phelps Roper superfan. So far its really interesting
Darkgalord Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 2:43 PM, TheCheshireCat said: Ehhhhhhhh I think pushing the "JKR is a Nazi" narrative is going to do more harm than good. It's going to get taken out of context, blown up and make activists seem even more crazy in the eyes of the GP, "JKR is a Nazi for saying women are women?" which in turn will make people listen even less.
fauxtography Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Femalien said: Anyone listen to the Witch Trials of JK Rowling that dropped today? I am a Megan Phelps Roper superfan. So far its really interesting would be interesting to hear a summary, dont really feel compelled to give either of them clicks
Aethereal Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Femalien said: Anyone listen to the Witch Trials of JK Rowling that dropped today? I am a Megan Phelps Roper superfan. So far its really interesting 7 minutes ago, fauxtography said: would be interesting to hear a summary, dont really feel compelled to give either of them clicks It was apparently about Rowling's early life and fundamentalist Christians opposing the popularity of Harry Potter. The title was a good marketing strategy.
fauxtography Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Aristotle said: It was apparently about Rowling's early life and fundamentalist Christians opposing the popularity of Harry Potter. The title was a good marketing strategy. I'm assuming there'll be more episodes and they aren't completely skirting around the major controversy....?
Aethereal Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, fauxtography said: I'm assuming there'll be more episodes and they aren't completely skirting around the major controversy....? I did not listen to it fully. But after some 10-15 minutes it seemed the trans controversy was really out of place so I did not expect it come in the audio so I left. Edited February 22, 2023 by Aristotle
Femalien Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 they're taking their sweet time setting up exposition. They have not actually arrived to hard hitting questions about JK's stance on trans issues but I believe they're coming. If not this podcast was a waste
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