discussion Netflix CEO says they "never canceled a successful show", wants huge shows every week

[fountain]

42 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

Disney's show are based on well established IPs like Marvel and Star Wars. Netflix doesn't have that so they have to throw thing out there to see if it sticks, like Strangers Things was. It's not easy to build a dedicated fanbase from the ground up.

But they aren’t doing it from the ground up though, at this point Netflix has been producing original shows for a decade. They just never bothered to lay the foundation to then reap the benefits now. They abandon most of their IPs after a few years or one slight misstep, so of course the fan bases will dissipate. The MCU and Star Wars have failures all the time but Disney still manages to nurture their fan bases. If Netflix provided enough support and creativity then we could be looking at Netflix IP that could potentially compete with brand power like Marvel/Star Wars but to achieve that they need to actually put in the work. I guess they’re trying to play catch up now with the potential Stranger Things spin offs and The Witcher projects (acquiring an established IP) but they still need to do more to establish themselves imo 

[fridayteenage]

1 hour ago, Darius said:

Wouldn't they want to keep at some some shows for the arts and not the charts, though? Cult classics are a thing. 

arts not the charts would be their emmy contenders, which tend to not get instant cancellations

 

most of netflix is trash so it's not a big problem for them

[Power love]

2 hours ago, JustHoran said:

Well that's a lie.

 

They cancelled The Society AFTER it was renewed, because of Covid-19. It's ridiculous because the show was a hit, renewed and left on a cliff-hanger. Answer that, Netflix!

 

I literally cancel my subscription after this & came back recently for the Jeffrey documentary TV series.
 

I was soo hurt this show was amazing

[Kamil24]

they are out of touch.

[Desire]

It does make sense but it also doesn't. Like many have said shows take time to get off the ground. Maybe stop throwing so much budget into the first season and instead put aside a bit for S2 if then the numbers still aren't good then cancel  shows need room to breathe 

 

And you can't tell me a show like Uncoupled had a big budget which warranted it getting canceled due to not being a hit 

[Delirious]

8 hours ago, whtvrdude said:

It's not a problem, it's not like it's bankrupting ******* NETFLIX.

That "stop being poor" attitude ain't cute.

If is a problem. They need more net profit especially after the dramatic decrease in share value a year ago 

 

Also they were supposed to be paying anyways 

[Delirious]

8 hours ago, whtvrdude said:

It's not a problem, it's not like it's bankrupting ******* NETFLIX.

That "stop being poor" attitude ain't cute.

If is a problem. They need more net profit especially after the dramatic decrease in share value a year ago 

 

Also they were supposed to be paying anyways 

[glacier76]

I can’t think of the last Network show I watched that got canceled after just one season. What is the last Network show that got canceled that the public got angry about? The last time for me was Happy Endings and at least that got three seasons. I am positive Netflix would not have given that show the same chance. 

[Mel.]

13 hours ago, JustHoran said:

Well that's a lie.

 

They cancelled The Society AFTER it was renewed, because of Covid-19. It's ridiculous because the show was a hit, renewed and left on a cliff-hanger. Answer that, Netflix!

I’m still pissed over “The Society” like…that made no sense canceling it after it had already been renewed. Did they think Covid restrictions were gonna last forever? They didn’t even give the covid crisis a chance to get better before canceling the series. I wish another network or streaming service picked it up

[truthteller]

 

[Crescent]

I agree with most in the article apart from

Uhhhh… GLOW

Extremely successful show, commercially and critically.

 

[Leppie]

I refuse to believe santa clarita diet was not successful :( 

[Anye]

36 minutes ago, Leppie said:

I refuse to believe santa clarita diet was not successful :( 

This. Alongside Dead To Me it was my fav comedy on Netflix.

[JustLikeHoney]

20 hours ago, fountain said:

Netflix and Disney+ essentially have opposite approaches to their business, where Netflix is about putting out a huge quantity of content and hoping some of these shows reach FOMO must watch success while cancelling the rest, and most of their interest and subscribers come from this vast quantity. With Disney+ they put out much less content but instead focus on their established fan bases and green light shows that appeal specifically to them, meaning even if there is less overall viewership these shows still retain a must watch factor for the dedicated fans, which equals consistent subscribers for the service. Both approaches work well clearly since the services are seeing great success at a similar level, but one ultimately will surpass the other and if I had to guess I would imagine it’d probably be Disney+ because garnering a dedicated fan base is a lot more reliable and Netflix definitely fails in that regard. If they were to directly focus on building up their successful properties (including critical success as opposed to just views, as they also face complains about the overall quality of their content) then they would probably be unstoppable, but they don’t seem to be interested in this and I see it coming back to haunt them eventually. 

Disney+ has literally two universes of shows Star Wars and Marvel and I think High School Musical. None of these shows are even winning awards. There is no way that you can be comparing the two. 

 

It's garbage for anyone that isn't a fan of scifi or kids highschool shows. 

 

Even HBOMax has a much better line up of shows. Most of them are critically acclaimed. 

 

And as a fan of Marvel and Star Was after watching the Ms. Marvel, She Hulk and the one with Hawkeye. I can honestly say I'm done with Disney Plus. I'll stick to waiting for the films. And possibly come back to Disney plus for Loki 2 and the Wanda spin off show, and the Madalorian 2 then cancel again. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by JustLikeHoney

[Mr.Link]

Yet they cancelled Sense8 just because they couldn’t afford it anymore and it couldn’t compete with the Game of Thrones bandwagon. 

[clee95]

******* give us The Society back *****!!!! I want more Sam and Grizz, you robbed us of their love story.

[Symmetra]

The umbrella academy deserves more than 4 seasons

[JonginBey]

We’re still going to complain.