Distantconstellation Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Gays are always the ones seeing shade in everything and starting drama it seems. They are always egging on the drama and creating it if there is no drama there.
BGKC Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I think it’s comparable to the way (mostly) straight folks do so with sports teams. People just wanting to vicariously live through other entities and claiming their success as their own. It just gets insufferable when gays use it as a way to degrade otherwise successful, talented women for the sake of stan wars and then turn around and convince themselves they’re not misogynistic.
PoisonCandy Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BGKC said: I think it’s comparable to the way (mostly) straight folks do so with sports teams. People just wanting to vicariously live through other entities and claiming their success as their own. It just gets insufferable when gays use it as a way to degrade otherwise successful, talented women for the sake of stan wars and then turn around and convince themselves they’re not misogynistic. We shouldn't accept that though. Athletes are competing. They set themselves up to be pit against each other. Female pop stars never asked for or wanted that. At its core, sports is a competitive activity. At its core, music is an art form. Both audiences might be doing it for the same reason, but one is in the wrong here. Edited January 23, 2023 by PoisonCandy
Digitalism Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 This is not about being gay tho It's a personality thing I kinda find this thread to be homophobic
BGKC Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, PoisonCandy said: We shouldn't accept that though. Athletes are competing. They set themselves up to be pit against each other. Female pop stars never asked for or wanted that. At its core, sports is a competitive activity. At its core, music is an art form. Both audiences might be doing it for the same reason, but one is in the wrong here. I mean I agree. I was just making the connection. Gays pit women together for sport. It’s a mental illness.
D_Man3379 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Gay Twitter especially. Nothing but toxic people on there.
BionicWooHoo Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I think a great recent example of what OP is talking about is that thread where Jennifer made a frivolous comment about how “oh yea I think Christina Aguilera performed w Britney and Madonna” and somehow the two words “I think” were in the minds of Christina’s peers’ stans and I quote “shading the **** out of Christina” when in reality JLo and Xtina follow each other on IG and JLo even sometimes randomly likes pics of Xtina (I.e here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYibm-ksf5U/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) the reality is that these stans are like the Republican voting base, they don’t do the research, they don’t know how to think critically, and they rely off of 2 decade off tabloid fodder and gossip
Bones Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I guess they’re just longing for the the same spark that their arguments with straight ppl about their sexuality had/stroking their d*cks upon a wall which all it can do is to make p3niz bruises wtf am I talking about here
LikeATattoo Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 OP made valid points, but already I’m seeing people obfuscate with accusations of homophobia instead of actually attempting to unpack the cited issue. Smh
Fraser Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Because, at the end of the day, gays are men who have internalized sexist and misogynistic views on women and enjoy seeing them fail. It's easy for them to appropriate feminine traits and try to defend it, but this comes with the cost of feeding their own egos on female drama. There are actually many sociological studies on this.
Bencharmer Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Tbh i never see so much shades, judgement and shaming like i saw in the "gay groups". They scream against patriarcy but still promote their values Along with "she looks good for her age", "masc4masc"...
vale9001 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) (some) gays are a little bit obsessed with charts cause they see a way to validate their taste. Sadly we are always in search, even if it's only unconscius, of approval from society and when society like what we like we can feel like in at least some aspect we are "with all the people". The need of this validation is strong..and also if it's not exactly this they're searching what is cool more with people (so on the charts) so they can feel "same as everyone". This is why queer contents and real queer culture are always marginal even between the community and we prefer when the mainstream popstars/artists introduce them in their work than following real queer/marginal artists. Cause it's kinda of queer but also part of the main pop culture everyone knows. This is really a fact so not coming for me Edited January 23, 2023 by vale9001
ThisNihilist Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Or how about you all stop talking about gays like we are all one person. It's stinks of homophobia. The hatred on here sometimes for gay men is astounding. Like people have said this website is the 4chan of popculture sites. SMH Edited January 23, 2023 by ThisNihilist
fountain Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Take an individual add misogyny and multiply by mental illness
glacier76 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 I don’t think sports is the right analogy. Straights do this with comic books. That DC vs marvel feud is exhausting.
FOCK Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 4:53 PM, PoisonCandy said: We shouldn't accept that though. Athletes are competing. They set themselves up to be pit against each other. Female pop stars never asked for or wanted that. At its core, sports is a competitive activity. At its core, music is an art form. Both audiences might be doing it for the same reason, but one is in the wrong here. Mainstream music, specifically pop stars, are marketed for capital gain, accolades, charts, revenue, listenership and viewership, with ever decreasing attention spans, ever increasing access to alternative options, limited spending decisions & less free time at their disposal. I’d argue it’s even more competitive than sport, as it actually doesn’t rely on pure talent/skill, nor does it require it + that type of exposure and success is as rare as lightening striking & incredibly fleeting. Rap is also a genre that has always been underscored and driven by competitive drive, historically due to socioeconomic conditions, but that’s a whole other thread.
imabadkid Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:27 AM, BGKC said: I think it’s comparable to the way (mostly) straight folks do so with sports teams. People just wanting to vicariously live through other entities and claiming their success as their own. It just gets insufferable when gays use it as a way to degrade otherwise successful, talented women for the sake of stan wars and then turn around and convince themselves they’re not misogynistic. lol no. This is what gays tell themselves to excuse toxic behavior and the sexism rooted in putting women against each other. Sports teams were designed to be pitted again each other. That’s the whole point of sports and the Super Bowl and NBA Championship. You can’t compare that to pitting women and actual human beings against each other with toxicity.
BGKC Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, imabadkid said: lol no. This is what gays tell themselves to excuse toxic behavior and the sexism rooted in putting women against each other. Sports teams were designed to be pitted again each other. That’s the whole point of sports and the Super Bowl and NBA Championship. You can’t compare that to pitting women and actual human beings against each other with toxicity. Yea, sure. Then explain the toxic drag race fandom. Drag race is just another place for a lot of gays to be subconsciously and/or blatantly racist, sexist, and transphobic. It’s the same toxic mentality relocated somewhere “competitive” I’m not excusing the behavior, but pitting pop stars against each other for sport is what it is for gays because they’re insecure with themselves. Sports fan who make their team their entire personality can be just as toxic/mentally ill in their own right too. There’s stories of fans beating other fans to death, they riot in the streets when their team wins/loses, and a lot of them are racist to a point where they dehumanize black athletes and expect them to shut up when it comes to social injustices.
CottageHore Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Because some of them are miserable dweebs
Mr.Link Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 11:53 PM, PoisonCandy said: Female pop stars never asked for or wanted that They do when they sell their albums on discount on release week or feud against others when they’re blocked from charts.
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