Sergi91 Posted February 12, 2024 Author Posted February 12, 2024 1 hour ago, MotherSuperior said: is Madonna as big as Bhad Bhabie? No, I fear 1
LOTF Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 40 minutes ago, Jay07 said: Also, the cringe argument that Madonna is not as big as Elton John or U2 or whatever the **** that troll was implying. Yes because they are male, they are rock acts with broader appeal and boomer "rock critic" acclaim and they are not acts who have based their entire identity around being controversial and making people uncomfortable, especially as they get older and get less conventionally "desirable" and athletic. You can't possibly be this obtuse. Hit it right on the nail. No one else will impress as much with their success because most of the people at Madonna's level have never been as polarizing and controversial as she is. 1
John Slayne Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 the American leg was unfortunately derailed by her illness, but that's not her fault... obviously it harmed the tour but that doesn't make her a touring fad. that harry styles tour has more than twice as many dates as TCT. most of drake's shows don't make 5 million per arena, no idea where those numbers are coming from lol, but anyway they are some of the biggest contemporary artists. as for people like Elton, he had to tour for 5 years to achieve that 900 million gross the only tours that are actually bigger are The Eras and Renaissance. if Madonna added Oceania, South America, and another European leg (there definitely is demand in the UK, Italy, etc.) she could easily bring this tour above 400 million total gross, which is nothing to scoff at even with the touring market being bigger now. 1
Jay07 Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, John Slayne said: the American leg was unfortunately derailed by her illness, but that's not her fault... obviously it harmed the tour but that doesn't make her a touring fad. that harry styles tour has more than twice as many dates as TCT. most of drake's shows don't make 5 million per arena, no idea where those numbers are coming from lol, but anyway they are some of the biggest contemporary artists. as for people like Elton, he had to tour for 5 years to achieve that 900 million gross the only tours that are actually bigger are The Eras and Renaissance. if Madonna added Oceania, South America, and another European leg (there definitely is demand in the UK, Italy, etc.) she could easily bring this tour above 400 million total gross, which is nothing to scoff at even with the touring market being bigger now. But Madonna is not going to stay on tour for 5 years to prove some idiotic box office point, just like she will not tour stadiums in Europe because the theatrical nature of this show is better suited to arenas. Whinging about her numbers day in and day out like you're trying to provoke a reaction out of her fans is so small minded and completely missing the forest for the trees. Madonna is not Taylor Swift, go argue about receipts with someone else. I hate that this thread was so lovely with people sharing their stories and their memories and now it's just another dick swinging contest because of some troll. Madonna is an artist, not a fast food chain, she's not all about "consumption". 5
John Slayne Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, Jay07 said: But Madonna is not going to stay on tour for 5 years to prove some idiotic box office point, just like she will not tour stadiums in Europe because the theatrical nature of this show is better suited to arenas. Whinging about her numbers day in and day out like you're trying to provoke a reaction out of her fans is so small minded and completely missing the forest for the trees. Madonna is not Taylor Swift, go argue about receipts with someone else. I hate that this thread was so lovely with people sharing their stories and their memories and now it's just another dick swinging contest because of some troll. Madonna is an artist, not a fast food chain, she's not all about "consumption". agree with everything but especially the part in bold. there is soooo many little details, easter eggs, and blink-you-miss-it moments in the show that i'm truly glad i saw it in an arena and reasonably close to the stage. 2
Elusive Chanteuse Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 Seems like tickets for St. Paul were sold, doesn’t look as bad as a few days ago .
Chris Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 3 hours ago, Jay07 said: Also, the cringe argument that Madonna is not as big as Elton John or U2 or whatever the **** that troll was implying When it comes to touring she is as big as them. 1
Chris Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 39 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: Seems like tickets for St. Paul were sold, doesn’t look as bad as a few days ago . Now you damn well there's going to be a lot of unsold tickets according to ATRL because they are the experts. Come on now. And you know one of them will magically appear in St. Paul and claim they saw unsold seats.
Sweetness Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 18 hours ago, Jay07 said: Also, the cringe argument that Madonna is not as big as Elton John or U2 or whatever the **** that troll was implying. Yes because they are male, they are rock acts with broader appeal and boomer "rock critic" acclaim and they are not acts who have based their entire identity around being controversial and making people uncomfortable, especially as they get older and get less conventionally "desirable" and athletic. You can't possibly be this obtuse. They are always on tour, Elton has toured for almost 6 years, if it wasn't for that he would've of never gotten the highest grossing tour of all time.
Chris Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Madonna literally held the record for the highest grossing female solo tour ever, people. Did you forget? 1
MP3 Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Chris said: Madonna literally held the record for the highest grossing female solo tour ever, people. Did you forget? Exactly S&ST was a total smash back then She did the same numbers as other singers in their peak and she was almost 30 years in her career She broke many records at the time with that tour, like biggest attendance in many European countries and I think she still holds records in South America The fact that she played way too many new songs in her tours and stick with more theatrical shows (which is totally fine) killed her momentum as a big mass touring artist
Mr. Mendes Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 (edited) On 2/8/2024 at 4:40 AM, Jjang said: Maybe I’ll screenshot Saint Paul’s ticketmaster map 5 minutes before showtime and we’ll see if all those blue spots disappeared. Just had a look myself, and the overwhelming majority of them did LMAO less than 2k tickets out of a 14k capacity show. I'm not gonna back off from this subject. I know how the box office works. I'm a box office hawk for both live events and film. I have watched for several years now what the habits of the live going public are and have experienced it myself via my own shows (theatrical, not touring music, but the trends are almost identical). Last minute sales are where it happens. Never have I claimed that the shows were completely sold out, I simply said that the majority of the unsold seats got sold by the time she was on. Which is the truth you seem so thrilled to keep arguing with despite not being there in person. I was in my seat watching the map in Pittsburgh get thinner and thinner as time ticked by and now there's nowhere even close to the amount of tickets in St. Paul as there were even just a few days ago. Don't believe me? Just the sections themselves to show how many sections are completely sold and how many have some left: And the actual seats available themselves: They'll move the upper level semi-restricted seats down like they did in a few other cities, and nothing will look amiss. Far less than 2k tickets (at last Tour Data update 4 days ago it was 2.8k tickets available and we can see that is no longer the case), and truthfully just by eyeballing it it looks to even be less than 1k though I will wait on the actual box office receipts for that. I don't know why you want these shows to be a flop so bad, but it's just not happening. An over 85% sell out rate is bang on the goal. Not to mention almost every other show is at 95%-100% sold. Edited February 14, 2024 by Mr. Mendes 2
mchl Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 She did “Take a Bow” instead of “Rain”/“Frozen” tonight
James_Dean Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 30 minutes ago, mchl said: She did “Take a Bow” instead of “Rain”/“Frozen” tonight Aaaahh praying she does it again this weekend in Seattle
C_Colstead Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 1 hour ago, mchl said: She did “Take a Bow” instead of “Rain”/“Frozen” tonight And a shortened acoustic version of Prince's "Kiss" before La Isla Bonita, so setlist.fm tells me.
spiritboy Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Now we understand why she never sings that song 3
Elusive Chanteuse Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 4 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: Exciting. It doesn't sound too bad, it was hard for her even in the 90s. 1
UMS125 Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 4 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: she sounds horrible.
BradySpears Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Take A Bow I’m on the floor I noticed the background changed? Maybe they expect this to stay in the show? While Rain is one of my all time favorite songs this would make more sense at this point of the show. I really hope she keeps it for my Seattle shows this weekend.
Chris Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 8 hours ago, mchl said: She did “Take a Bow” instead of “Rain”/“Frozen” tonight NO FREAKING WAY?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!??!
spiritboy Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Manila Luzon was the guest judge last night. This tour is shaping up to be Madonna's Drag Race 1 1
Alongoria13 Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Next show is sold out so the usual ramblings will be gone 1 1
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