Sweetness Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 5 hours ago, madollaqueen said: She's not bringing celebs anymore. More like her dear friends, Trans voguing queens, and drag queens..she's really after the real ballroom scene now. But on the amy, her manager probably sent her up on stage. She's under his management as well. She's friends, so that criteria meets. Once again Guy shows us what a great manager he is.
John. Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 She started at 10:06 today too tired type out a full review, but all in all, it was AMAZING and everyone needs to go see it at least once. She did Rain again… talent lost a tiny bit. Would’ve prefer Frozen. My personal fave is without a doubt Don’t Tell Me and the crowd went wild when the intro started. A classic. 2
madollaqueen Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, samito said: The crowd tonight was amazing! The Philly crowd is always amazing. I saw her perform in Philly on youtube on the Girlie show. She got one of the loudest cheers from there. It's a pity she does only one show there between nyc shows. Edited January 26, 2024 by madollaqueen 1
exfactor003 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 as per Billboard, the 9 December shows grossed $26.5 million from 123,000 tickets. if we subtract the $6,344,416 (32,104) that Amsterdam grossed according to Pollstar, and the $7,588,038 (31,111) that was grossed in London, we are left with $12,567,546 (59,785) between the 3 Brooklyn and 2 D.C. shows. this is all speculative for the time being, as Billboard Boxscore can be very inaccurate these days. 2
Alongoria13 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 hour ago, exfactor003 said: as per Billboard, the 9 December shows grossed $26.5 million from 123,000 tickets. if we subtract the $6,344,416 (32,104) that Amsterdam grossed according to Pollstar, and the $7,588,038 (31,111) that was grossed in London, we are left with $12,567,546 (59,785) between the 3 Brooklyn and 2 D.C. shows. this is all speculative for the time being, as Billboard Boxscore can be very inaccurate these days. Seems a little off no? Madonna always grosses huge numbers in NYC
BradySpears Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Alongoria13 said: Seems a little off no? Madonna always grosses huge numbers in NYC The Brooklyn shows were probably 70-80% sold, while the 2nd DC show was probably only 50-60% sold so these numbers make sense. I bet we’ll get huge MSG numbers. Probably average around $4m a show.
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, exfactor003 said: as per Billboard, the 9 December shows grossed $26.5 million from 123,000 tickets. if we subtract the $6,344,416 (32,104) that Amsterdam grossed according to Pollstar, and the $7,588,038 (31,111) that was grossed in London, we are left with $12,567,546 (59,785) between the 3 Brooklyn and 2 D.C. shows. this is all speculative for the time being, as Billboard Boxscore can be very inaccurate these days. 3 hours ago, Alongoria13 said: Seems a little off no? Madonna always grosses huge numbers in NYC from UKmix: Quote Madonna Tickets Sold: 37,781; Venue: Barclays Center, Brooklyn, N.Y.; Gross: $7,774,698; Ticket Range: $60-$560; Promoter: Live Nation; Dates: Dec. 13-16; No. of Shows: 3 Assuming both reports are true, this means she sold 22,004 tickets & grossed $4,792,848 from the two DC shows. Edited January 26, 2024 by Jjang
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Celebration Tour Brooklyn - $2,591,566 per show DC - $2,396,424 per show Rebel Heart Tour (adjusted for inflation) Brooklyn - $3,586,625 DC - $2,590,046 So far a decline.
MP3 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 5 hours ago, exfactor003 said: as per Billboard, the 9 December shows grossed $26.5 million from 123,000 tickets. if we subtract the $6,344,416 (32,104) that Amsterdam grossed according to Pollstar, and the $7,588,038 (31,111) that was grossed in London, we are left with $12,567,546 (59,785) between the 3 Brooklyn and 2 D.C. shows. this is all speculative for the time being, as Billboard Boxscore can be very inaccurate these days. It makes sense I think, it gives an average of around 12,000 per show which is fare since those shows were not totally sold out maybe except for the original first D.C. show. With an average of $210 per tickets, it's still impressive. If those shows were sold out, the average ticket prices would have been in the range of $220-$230
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Just now, MP3 said: It makes sense I think, it gives an average of around 12,000 per show which is fare since those shows were not totally sold out maybe except for the original first D.C. show. With an average of $210 per tickets, it's still impressive. If those shows were sold out, the average ticket prices would have been in the range of $220-$230 It looks bad when you compare her with the many other acts (both old and new) doing $$4-5m+ per arena. But overall it's still respectable numbers. Unfortunately for her, more dates are looking dire. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Saint Paul, 2nd Seattle date, Sacramento, 3 LA dates, second Houston & Dallas dates, etc. I also remember reading that the Philly date did badly too. 3
MP3 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jjang said: Celebration Tour Brooklyn - $2,591,566 per show DC - $2,396,424 per show Rebel Heart Tour (adjusted for inflation) Brooklyn - $3,586,625 DC - $2,590,046 So far a decline. She's doing 6 shows in NYC area and 2 shows in D.C. while she did 3 shows in NYC and 1 in D.C. with Rebel Heart Tour, the demand is higher this time, the double actually. And the average prices will still be over 200$ while it was below that with RHT 2
Alongoria13 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 11 minutes ago, Jjang said: Celebration Tour Brooklyn - $2,591,566 per show DC - $2,396,424 per show Rebel Heart Tour (adjusted for inflation) Brooklyn - $3,586,625 DC - $2,590,046 So far a decline. Eh maybe lower per show but there are more shows per city now, which kinds of even things out xx 1
MP3 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Jjang said: It looks bad when you compare her with the many other acts (both old and new) doing $$4-5m+ per arena. But overall it's still respectable numbers. Unfortunately for her, more dates are looking dire. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Saint Paul, 2nd Seattle date, Sacramento, 3 LA dates, second Houston & Dallas dates, etc. I also remember reading that the Philly date did badly too. For sure there are artists that can sold out arenas with 15,000 each night with an average of almost 300$ per tickets, it would have probably been the case if Madonna was in her mid 20's and in her peak, but if you compare her with other artists of her age and in her league it is still great numbers
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Alongoria13 said: Eh maybe lower per show but there are more shows per city now, which kinds of even things out xx If we completely ignore all context about the scale of the touring industry now vs. then, yes I mean, freaking Mariah just grossed $6.3m from two LA shows. It's a different world. But again, they are undoubtedly respectable numbers still. 3
MP3 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Jjang said: If we completely ignore all context about the scale of the touring industry now vs. then, yes I mean, freaking Mariah just grossed $6.3m from two LA shows. It's a different world. But again, they are undoubtedly respectable numbers still. I think overall it's safe to say that the demand this time is higher than it was with the Rebel Heart Tour and the MDNA. She will end up selling around 60,000 tickets in LA which is honestly great numbers 90,000 in London 62,000 in Paris 75,000+ in NYC 60,000+ in LA The demand is there for sure
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MP3 said: I think overall it's safe to say that the demand this time is higher than it was with the Rebel Heart Tour and the MDNA. She will end up selling around 60,000 tickets in LA which is honestly great numbers 90,000 in London 62,000 in Paris 75,000+ in NYC 60,000+ in LA The demand is there for sure In Europe, she did very well. No one's arguing against that. Some dates (like MSG) will do very well too. LA not so much. You have one sold-out show, one that has sold more than 80%, and three that are looking like a catastrophe currently with tickets going as cheap as $60 and still barely selling at a snail's pace. Edited January 26, 2024 by Jjang 1
Alongoria13 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 11 minutes ago, Jjang said: If we completely ignore all context about the scale of the touring industry now vs. then, yes I mean, freaking Mariah just grossed $6.3m from two LA shows. It's a different world. But again, they are undoubtedly respectable numbers still. Madonna's US leg bar some sprinkled dates was doing very well when it was scheduled for this summer, I'd say give the circumstances she's doing just fine. 1
tiagol88 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jjang said: If we completely ignore all context about the scale of the touring industry now vs. then, yes I mean, freaking Mariah just grossed $6.3m from two LA shows. It's a different world. Madonna has 6 arenas in NYC and other 6 in LA for this tour Rebel Heart tour had half of those in NYC and i can't remember for LA. Did she even go there? And DC only had one show during RH Tour...this time it had 2 shows. How is it a decline? Of course the fact she only had one arena scheduled boosted her only show back in 2015... She literally has more shows in each city you just mentioned compared to RH tour. If back then she had scheduled these many shows per city the tour would've flopped so bad edit: there's also the fact many shows that were sold out before, are not anymore since she re-scheduled them for the winter. Let's not forget that. She did tremendously well when she announced the tour... Edited January 26, 2024 by tiagol88
Alongoria13 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Madonna has 6 arenas in NYC and other 6 in LA for this tour Rebel Heart tour had half of those in NYC and i can't remember for LA. Did she even go there? She did one sad show in Inglewood and that's it
MP3 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 The thing is when the tour was supposed to start last summer the first 4 shows in LA in the Crypto Arena were close of being sold out, same with the first 4 shows in NYC. It went a little bad with the 2 extra shows in Inglewood and Brooklyn but they would have still sell near the show date. The rescheduling hurted a little the sale overall
Alongoria13 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 (edited) Anyway, I hope the US Leg is over soon, ever since she stepped into that wretched nation... Edited January 26, 2024 by Alongoria13
Jjang Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 minute ago, tiagol88 said: Madonna has 6 arenas in NYC and other 6 in LA for this tour Rebel Heart tour had half of those in NYC and i can't remember for LA. Did she even go there? And DC only had one show during RH Tour...this time it had 2 shows. How is it a decline? Of course the fact she only had one arena scheduled boosted her only show back in 2015... She literally has more shows in each city you just mentioned compared to RH tour. If back then she had scheduled these many shows per city the tour would've flopped so bad That is true. But again - why are we acting context blind? The touring industry has grown exponentially since and this is her greatest hits tour. By all means, all the cards were stacked in her favor to do much better. Even gross aside, RHT gathered an audience of 13,271 in DC in the same arena. Celebration's shows did an average of 11,002. Assuming the first show was sold out, that would mean there were at least 2,000 tickets available for the second show. And RHT was already making news even then for being her slowest-selling tour yet. So again, combine that with the fact that the touring industry is x10 bigger now - context. I'm not even saying she's doing bad in the US. For the "Queen of Pop,' those are good but pretty average numbers. Surely not remarkable at last. 3
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