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1 to 3 billions fake streams in France in 2021


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Oh it's The Louvre so Taylor can't relate :coffee:

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13 hours ago, Last Boy on Earth said:

What are fake streams? What happens with them? What are the consequences of them? How does it impact the industry? Very non informative thread 

There's a video that goes in detail about some shady  stuff streaming companies have done but it's a bit long

 

 

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aya has some explaining to do 

 

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18 hours ago, Otter said:

Essentially bots, the rest of it you can deduce or read up on.

 

Ultimately the numbers for the major players seems small and largely inconsequential. Despite the small numbers, Its interesting to consider that "fake streams" could be deployed selectively to give x or y song a slight edge over a chart competitor in order to score a certain milestone (top 10, No. 1 etc ), although there's no suggestion thats how its being used here

 

18 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

Let’s say in 2022 Spotify made €100 from subscriptions

From those €100, they take a €30 cut for themselves and use the remaining €70 to pay artists and labels on a percentage basis: if you got 10% of the total streams you get €7 (they do this for every country due to differences in subscription prices)

 

Some artists / labels pay for fake streams to increase their own share of the cake and make more money at the expense of other artists.

 

Spotify doesn’t really fight against bots because A) their 30% cut is guaranteed so they never lose, and B) bigger numbers make their service look better, which means more business opportunities.

 

18 hours ago, Flocon said:

Small artists can pay bots to launch their songs in order to compete with big releases

 

5 hours ago, Starchild said:

There's a video that goes in detail about some shady  stuff streaming companies have done but it's a bit long

 

 

Thank you :heart2:

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1% :coffee2:

So nothing 

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