Should overseas girl be using American slang or more specifically AAVE?

[Distantconstellation]

I cringe everytime I hear any gay on this forum from somewhere in Europe using AAVE. It sounds odd as hell. 

[Richmond]

Absolutely! We live in a free world where freedom of speech is welcomed and celebrated (at least in the relevant countries of the world). Say whatever you want, however you want it, and let the always angry, bitter girls fume!

[May]

i am actively begging you to go outside and touch grass

[TaggedGalaxy]

Who cares it's not that serious

[dumbsparce]

People who don't live in the anglosphere don't know what AAVE is. It's all just American being talked by Americans. Also, American media and entertainment have been shoven down our throats so it's only natural for non-Americans to imitate what they grew up with bc they feel they have a good grasp of it. With that being said, if you're tasteful enough you'll know better than to use slang that's not in your every day vocabulary.

[Kylizzle]

I don't think it's morally wrong but the European girls look goofy dragging the U.S. while using our slang tbqh 

[feelslikeadream]

Wait, OPs wig is so skinny. They may have snapped the tea on this one I fear!

[beautiful player]

Yeah, I'm not seeing any problem with that.

[Anvarie]

White people don’t like being told to stop doing something that comes from another culture

[The Next Day]

What about Black Europeans?

[swissman]

Well the problem arises with the fact that many people do it as a means of saying a joke, or conveying humour. Whereas they would not necessarily speak that way in every day conversation, they would do so as a punchline. You can see this on social media a lot, where this is the case that they are either taking on AAVE as a way of being/sounding silly (to their ears) or mimicking popular African-Americans who have set up their own memes and ways of expressing things on the internet. The last version is less harmful, but it does serve to remove the cultural ownership of such things and make it seem to many white people who do not know its origins, that it's a white thing. We've seen this happen many times not just with language but with music, art, food, etc.

[swissman]

Let me guess that the majority of those who think it's okay are not African-Americans, right?

[Devin]

If you not Black don’t use AAVE or say nig-

[Pendulum]

27 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

People who don't live in the anglosphere don't know what AAVE is. It's all just American being talked by Americans. Also, American media and entertainment have been shoven down our throats so it's only natural for non-Americans to imitate what they grew up with bc they feel they have a good grasp of it. With that being said, if you're tasteful enough you'll know better than to use slang that's not in your every day vocabulary.

There you have it folks

 

People are sponges when it comes to slang. Nobody owns a language or a language variety (AAVE). 

[truthteller]

 

[Starshine]

I've seen many of the European girls use "y'all" often on Twitter and I cannot imagine how goofy that would sound.

[Richmond]

9 minutes ago, swissman said:

Well the problem arises with the fact that many people do it as a means of saying a joke, or conveying humour. Whereas they would not necessarily speak that way in every day conversation, they would do so as a punchline. You can see this on social media a lot, where this is the case that they are either taking on AAVE as a way of being/sounding silly (to their ears) or mimicking popular African-Americans who have set up their own memes and ways of expressing things on the internet. The last version is less harmful, but it does serve to remove the cultural ownership of such things and make it seem to many white people who do not know its origins, that it's a white thing. We've seen this happen many times not just with language but with music, art, food, etc.

You just said a whole lot of nothing

[Devin]

The wild part is YT gays dragging Black artists and things related to the culture. Meanwhile most (if not all) gay slang originates from our Black moms, aunts, grandmas, etc.

[Literature]

Imagine thinking language “belongs” to only a certain community  

 

 

 

[Communion]

There is something at odds when a significant portion of people who hold the "cultures are meant to be shared, you can't restrict culture by borders" mentality will then mock something like the American awareness of race as "race obsessed" or deride the kind of diversity culture within America that led to them even having access to the lexicon they're now using in their racially homogenous country. 

 

And that's ignoring the more egregious examples where suddenly people who think culture is meant to be shared decide borders now mean a lot when it comes to their countries' immigration systems and their proposed quota of refugee acceptance. 

 

Just be consistent. 

 

You can't in one moment be all "Cultures are meant to be shared, that's how society actually becomes accepting" and then "Ugh I'm tired of hearing about racism this or racism that, thank God we don't have SJWs who see everything as racist in Hung-yugosla-krain-aita-land! *eye roll emoji*" at the same time.  

Edited January 14, 2023 by Communion

[Devin]

1 minute ago, Literature said:

Imagine thinking language “belongs” to only a certain community  

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white people do not talk like that , therefore it is associated with the Black community which is why its called AAVE.

[Armani?]

Forcing a dialect is wierd & cringy but ppl will do what they want at the end of the day

[swissman]

10 minutes ago, Richmond said:

You just said a whole lot of nothing

I cannot be responsible for what you do not understand.

[shookspeare]

I'm neutral on the appropriation aspect of the question, but for me it's inauthentic and makes everyone sound the same. People used to have different writing styles and voices, now the proliferation of AAVE and stan slang into everyday life has completely sterilized language and it's a shame

[swissman]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

There is something at odds when a significant portion of people who hold the "cultures are meant to be shared, you can't restrict culture by borders" mentality will then mock something like the American awareness of race as "race obsessed" or deride the kind of diversity culture within America that led to them even having access to the lexicon they're now using in their racially homogenous country. 

 

And that's ignoring the more egregious examples where suddenly people who think culture is meant to be shared decide borders now mean a lot when it comes to their countries' immigration systems and their proposed quota of refugee acceptance. 

 

Just be consistent. 

 

You can't in one moment be all "Cultures are meant to be shared, that's how society actually becomes accepting" and then "Ugh I'm tired of hearing about racism this or racism that, thank God we don't see things as racist in Hungyugoslakrainaitaland! *eye roll emoji*" at the same time.  

VERY WELL SAID!!

 

The hypocrisy is too much, so much of the time.