IBeMe Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) The new Russian draft effort will begin after January 15. KYIV — Ukrainian intelligence officials are warning that the Kremlin plans a new mobilization wave for up to 500,000 men to fight in Ukraine starting in mid-January. The new conscription drive, which would be larger than last autumn’s Russian draft of 300,000, would include a push in big cities, including some strategic industrial centers in Russia, Andriy Cherniak, an official with the Main Military Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, told POLITICO on Saturday. https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-mobilize-new-conscript-military-intelligence-war-ukraine/ Basically expect a massive wave of Russian men fleeing again like last year when Russia conscripted 300k men by force. This time it will be worse. Not to mention all these guys will be new conscripts so they will likely be slaughtered in Ukraine. Additionally, this time the conscripts will also come from big cities. Before, Russia was mostly forcing men from poor regions or/and ethnic and religious minorities in Russia in order to genocide the ethnic minorities. Now they will start deploying more Slavic Russians in this war from the developed cities. This will create MASSIVE internal chaos. A mess. Edited January 10, 2023 by IBeMe
ontherocks Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: When will Putin finally die? It's not just Putin. They all want it.
IBeMe Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: When will Putin finally die? low key polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of Russians actually support the war. Sentiments may change now that they are losing dramatically though but still. It goes to show that this is not a "the leader is leading his blind sheep" situation. This is a situation where the people genuinely agreed with their leaders ambitions and it's sad. Now though, they face the consequences and hopefully now that the conscripts will be coming from big developed cities and be from the Slavic white Christian majority, hopefully that will cause enough internal chaos and fear that they will FINALLY start rioting against Putin. The Russians didnt care when it was the ethnic minorities forced to fight and dying like flies but if they start being forced to enter the war too than maybe they'll finally stand up and say enough is enough! at least I hope that is what happens ...
Bicassie Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, ontherocks said: It's not just Putin. They all want it. not true they are just scared to speak up or else they get punished
ontherocks Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bicassie said: not true they are just scared to speak up or else they get punished No that is a myth. Just look at Serbia, Russia's little brother and the entity Republika Srpska in Bosnia and Hercegovina. Full on support for Russia and the war against Ukraine. Turn on Russian TV. All polls show that the majority of Russians are fully supporting and that they should even attack Baltic states and Poland. Edited January 10, 2023 by ontherocks
Flanders Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Hopefully it all ends with a Russian uprising against the government and the oligarchs
ProudLBS Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 How much does a hitman cost on the Dark Web? Do they take Bitcoin?
Cloudy Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Do they even have that many conscripts left or are they going to start throwing kindergarden children to the front lines? Edited January 10, 2023 by Cloudy
Bloodflowers. Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 That means more Russian gays giving blowjobs in Ukraine before getting droned to death like that thread @katara posted 2 months ago
Taylena Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, ontherocks said: Turn on Russian TV. All polls show that the majority of Russians are fully supporting Russian state-owned media would never lie about the approval among Russians for this war or threat people with jail if they don't support it, would they?
katara Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Good luck with bookin those conscripts you speak of
ontherocks Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Taylena said: Russian state-owned media would never lie about the approval among Russians for this war or threat people with jail if they don't support it, would they? They don't have to. The vast majority of Russians still claim TV as their main source of information they TRUST. The internet never had the popularity like the TV in Russia. That's why it was so important to get rid of the media that was against him, but incredibly minorised even before that. Hello, Gleichschaltung! Edited January 10, 2023 by ontherocks
RussianRoulette Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bicassie said: not true they are just scared to speak up or else they get punished they want it. even the younger generation i had this russian guy on my socials that i used to play a game with and he's just 26 but he said they deserve to win and that we from the west are brainwashed by the media and that he and his friends can't wait to go and fight for their glorious nation
Brishka Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Taylena said: Russian state-owned media would never lie about the approval among Russians for this war or threat people with jail if they don't support it, would they? 1 hour ago, Bicassie said: not true they are just scared to speak up or else they get punished Stop whitewashing russian fascists and read this interview with Lev Gudkov, the head of Russia's only independent opinion research agency. He admits that the majority of russians support the war and have zero sympathy for Ukrainians. We recently saw a decline in support for the war in Levada polls, but this happened only because they suffered humiliating losses in 2022 and plenty of russians were forced to flee/hide during the first wave of mobilization. Had Ukraine fallen in three days like most analysts predicted, even the most "liberal" russians would have been celebrating this as their imperial conquest. The same happened with Crimea in 2014 (only the so-called "liberal" russians were celebrating its annexation, and putin's approval rating shot through the roof). Edited January 10, 2023 by Brishka
Saddy Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Almost everyone in Russia is brainwashed, so it's not surprising they support this war and those who don't support it, they are either in prison rn or live in another country
WhoWho Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Taylena said: Russian state-owned media would never lie about the approval among Russians for this war or threat people with jail if they don't support it, would they? 5 hours ago, Bicassie said: not true they are just scared to speak up or else they get punished Exactly. Russia has the lowest percentage of polls response in Europe. Only 10% of population are ready to share their opinion on things like democracy, Putin, War, even in Moscow, the average in Europe is 80% tho. Why is that? Maybe they are scared of going to jail for their views? It's even more interesting that a decent amount of those 10% are against the war. THAT user posting about "Russian fasciscts" is extremely funny. AS IF Putin would let research groups exist if they wouldn't release something that can be beneficial for his image of popular leader. There's clearly no understanding there of how dictatorships work. Here's an interview by Nina Khrustcheva(grand-daughter of soviet leader Nikita Khrustchev)- professor of International Relations at the New School in the New York City. This lady is an expert when it comes to autocracies & how they operate. Here's what she had to say after the first draft in October: "20% support. 30% against. 50% say leave us alone" Edited January 10, 2023 by WhoWho
WhoWho Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Also, to people that say "all Russians support the war" or "most russians support the war", you do understand that you are helping to perpetuate an extremely harmful rhetoric that Kremlin is pushing? This is something that Putin spends billions on every year to perpetuate. The only reason Putin is still in power is because Russians genuinely believe that not enough people are against the war. Even tho that's not true. Edited January 10, 2023 by WhoWho
Rev8 Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, WhoWho said: Exactly. Russia has the lowest percentage of polls response in Europe. Only 10% of population are ready to share their opinion on things like democracy, Putin, War, even in Moscow, the average in Europe is 80% tho. Why is that? Maybe they are scared of going to jail for their views? It's even more interesting that a decent amount of those 10% are against the war. THAT user posting about "Russian fasciscts" is extremely funny. AS IF Putin would let research groups exist if they wouldn't release something that can be beneficial for his image of popular leader. There's clearly no understanding there of how dictatorships work. Here's an interview by Nina Khrustcheva(grand-daughter of soviet leader Nikita Khrustchev)- professor of International Relations at the New School in the New York City. This lady is an expert when it comes to autocracies & how they operate. Here's what she had to say after the first draft in October: "20% support. 30% against. 50% say leave us alone" This! Yall rly believe Russia lets free speech? there was literally a video of policemen arresting Anyone daring to speak about the war at one point they dont play! It's really Foolish to trust Any kind of poll in Russia about stuff especially now, when most sane people have left it or are scared to speak out, not being able to move a percentage of the votes
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