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UK labels are failing to push / uphold (new) pop girls, why?


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3 hours ago, GustavoBardusco said:

 

Rita: she's the female JLo so she doesn't really belong to this conversation? She will be on the media doing whatever random gig she booked and that's it, the music is just a part of it

And what does that make JLo :deadbanana:

 

OT: you forgot Rina Sawayama. Her and Griff are the only British pop girls I’m kind of into right now, it seems like everybody else is just making Love Island background music (and has been since, like, 2014 :rip:)

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It could have been Mabel, but they ruined her career just like they did with Alexandra Burke. Their pop meets R&B sound made them standout and seem authentic, but their labels forced them to become sexed up dance divas.  Mabel works when she's more natural/girl-next-door. She doesn't have the swag, voice, or presence for her current sound.  

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16 hours ago, GustavoBardusco said:

RAYE: let's see if Escapism will make ppl stay interested on her. Based on the other singles streams so far no but I think the full album can change this. 

Mabel: Rebranding needed - or better, return to her roots

Ellie: She slayed ww for three album cycles and she's currently very mismanaged rn

Bree Runway - Once she signed the music became worse, imo, but she can bounce back with the right songs I guess

Holly Humberstone: it's another case of holding the music hostage making things worse, they should release the album and start working from there

Ashnikko: It's tiktok music tbh 

Pinkpantheress: She's kinda doing great I think? Idk if she is developing her fanbase but so far her songs get a nice ammount of plays and support from TikTok

Rita: she's the female JLo so she doesn't really belong to this conversation? She will be on the media doing whatever random gig she booked and that's it, the music is just a part of it

 

Other names:

Griff: funny, I thought she was going to be massive but Warner is doing everything worse, and she had a similar team that worked on Dua's breakthrough? Such as Holly they should release more projects and let the music do the talking. 

Ella Henderson: delicate scenario for her, her dance rebranding was cute since she dissapeared but her non-dance songs deserve the same push. 

Jess Glynne: I fear she won't recover (and she's not really missed?)

Anne-Marie: is doing okay but lord knows why... The songs are horrible and are just tiktok background music, you can't develop a fanbase from this

Jessie J: I think she's more of a soul singer rn? 

omg i saw Griff open for Dua's tour and she was so boring. She can definitely capture a Harry styles type of audience but I see why it's not working out for her.

 

Jess Glynne will find a way to wriggle her way back on the charts just like anne marie does. Non-surprisingly they're the worst artists mentioned here.

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On 1/10/2023 at 11:23 PM, dangerousalex said:

omg i saw Griff open for Dua's tour and she was so boring. She can definitely capture a Harry styles type of audience but I see why it's not working out for her.

 

Jess Glynne will find a way to wriggle her way back on the charts just like anne marie does. Non-surprisingly they're the worst artists mentioned here.

Jess Glynne is going to underperform IMO

 

 

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On 1/10/2023 at 2:03 AM, GustavoBardusco said:

Rita: she's the female JLo so she doesn't really belong to this conversation? She will be on the media doing whatever random gig she booked and that's it, the music is just a part of it

:deadbanana2:

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Could be worse. They could be Australian pop girls like Dami Im, Samantha Jade or Jessica Mauboy who never even crossover to the UK because of even worse label management down under than in the UK.

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ddd the bump, well at least i was right about PinkPantheress! :mandown:

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It just seems like the UK GP are more open to British male artists these days tbh. British female artists have always struggled with continuing their momentum because if it wasn't the label failing them, it was the media turning against them.

 

Bree needs to focus on building herself in the US - they have been more receptive to her. The British music industry don't want to promote Black women, especially if she's not mixed or light-skinned. 

How many monoracial or dark-skinned Black British prominent female stars has there been since Alexandra Burke and Laura Mvula? Little Simz is getting there, but still a bit behind compared to her male counterparts and she's also indie.

Ms Banks and Ivorian Doll can't seem to take off outside of the blogs either. Ray BLK has been up and coming for ages but still lacks that PUSH.

 

It's a shame because Bree really has potential.

 

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How could I forget my girl, Ray Blk?
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Honestly their music is too local sounding and badly produced. All of the girls that manged to cross over to Europe and US (Adele, Ellie, Dua Lipa) managed to have long careers.

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there could only be one true superstar at the time (adele out) and her name is dua lipa

 

RAYE - 'My 21st Century Blues' - Music - ATRL

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On 1/10/2023 at 7:03 AM, GustavoBardusco said:

Rita: she's the female JLo so she doesn't really belong to this conversation? She will be on the media doing whatever random gig she booked and that's it, the music is just a part of it

:gaycat6:

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Dua Lipa lucked out in that she was in a label that needed a flagship female popstar with Warner. Not to mention its not vocal talent that gets your voice heard on radio, its vocal color.

 

Ariana Grande, Rihanna, Adele, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, radio fodder for decades artists are not played because they're vocally talented primarily, its because they have pleasing and extremely recognizable tones. Taylor can be the 'basic' all she wants you will still KNOW its a Taylor Swift singing it, Ariana is the most feminine and gentle voice on pop radio, Rihanna has been the blueprint for 2 decades now, Adele is just a force of nature and Beyonce is well. Beyonce.

 

Dua Lipa falls in this category, she has a very distinct tone, that borderline smoker future COPD having patient husky vocal color she has is very distinct and very pleasant to the ears, she loves the rasp too and its very Rihanna-esque, none of the UK girls can do that. Most UK popgirls can sing circles but lack the distinctiveness that Dua has, UK labels also just don't have the budget and willingness to spend on a Dua Lipa-esque artist.

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On 2/23/2023 at 1:42 AM, MusicLoverDude said:

Could be worse. They could be Australian pop girls like Dami Im, Samantha Jade or Jessica Mauboy who never even crossover to the UK because of even worse label management down under than in the UK.

My Aussie girlies! I was rooting for Sammy J so hard during her XFactor days but I was a hardcore Bella Ferraro stan back then, her voice (not her they say she's hard to work with) deserves the career Olivia Rodrigo has now.. Sammy J was too cookie cutter popstar she doesn't have anything else to offer tbh. Nondescript vocals, sexy as **** but other than that? She doesn't have the raspiness of Rihanna nor the pop sensibilities of Ariana/2000s Beyonce. Her singles are basic as hell.

 

Dami Im simply does not look like a popstar, thats an already hard sell, she could've gone the EDM girlie route but even then thats a very small market with little to no actual long term success when Rita Ora and Jess Glynne are right there.

 

Jessica Mauboy my AI fave! She's a SINGER singer for sure but eh she doesn't scream star power, nothing about her radiates superstar I really don't know everytime I watch her onstage she looks like she could easily be outstaged by a mediocre vocalist but star performer.

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