Distantconstellation Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 And no it's not because they are homophobic.
Marco_g2 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Because just like girls they want what they cant have
Punky Rooster Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: Because gay men are attracted to masculinity
Otter Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: Because gay men are attracted to masculinity this plus the fact that they are 95% of the men on the planet, so technically the vast majority of hot Men are straight
sourtwink Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: Because gay men are attracted to masculinity gay men can be masculine too. also, being attracted to men ≠ being attracted to masculine men. many queer men, especially tops, are attracted to femininity. myself included. anyways, it’s because there are a lot of self hating gays with internalised homophobia who would rather be with someone who wants to **** them in secret but not actually be with them than an actual out gay person who would actually want to be with them. also, they are borderline s*xual predators who actively seek to coerce straight men into sleeping with them which makes the gay community look bad. Edited January 9, 2023 by sourtwink
Brishka Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Many gay men are attracted to straight men for the same reason that many people, regardless of their sexual orientation, are attracted to someone they view as “off-limits.” The allure of forbidden fruit often makes something particularly desirable—even if there is no chance of it actually happening. Additionally, many gay men may find themselves drawn to elements of masculinity that a heterosexual man can bring and/or represent. This can be wide-ranging, from physical attributes (e.g., strong jawlines, a toned physique) to behavioral characteristics (e.g., assertiveness, confidence). Some gay men also express being drawn to someone for their perspective on life or unique worldview that might not otherwise be had if they pursued an individual who was similar in gender identity or sexuality. Ultimately, attraction varies from person to person and some may simply be captivated by a particular individual independent of other factors due to some mysterious unknowable quality.
Guest Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Brishka said: Many gay men are attracted to straight men for the same reason that many people, regardless of their sexual orientation, are attracted to someone they view as “off-limits.” The allure of forbidden fruit often makes something particularly desirable—even if there is no chance of it actually happening. Additionally, many gay men may find themselves drawn to elements of masculinity that a heterosexual man can bring and/or represent. This can be wide-ranging, from physical attributes (e.g., strong jawlines, a toned physique) to behavioral characteristics (e.g., assertiveness, confidence). Some gay men also express being drawn to someone for their perspective on life or unique worldview that might not otherwise be had if they pursued an individual who was similar in gender identity or sexuality. Ultimately, attraction varies from person to person and some may simply be captivated by a particular individual independent of other factors due to some mysterious unknowable quality. C’mon grad school thesis! Spoiler You made several points, though! Edited January 9, 2023 by Limitless
Bosque Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 They lack self-worth and need validation from straight (or self-proclaimed "straight" guys). It's quite sad to see honestly
MingYouToo Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Ive always asked myself this and I ask myself is it because of internalized homophobia? After years of questioning I have come to the conclusion that no it isn't. Homosexual men can be or not be attracted to masculinity, both are perfectly okay. I was, and am attracted to trans men who appear masc (lost attraction because of a lack of pp) and it became very clear I was simply attracted to traditional masculinity. While there is validity that some gay men have internalized homophobia, I think its unfair to brandish all queer men who like masculine men as 'suffering internalized homophobia'. You cannot expect me to like a feminine man simply because I am attracted to traditionally masculine characteristics: I like height, deep voices, athletic, men. That doesnt mean they cant be feminine though, being in touch with both sides is the best imo. I am not going to squeal in disgust if a 'masculine presenting' man starts watching RPDR or likes Kylie Minogue, thats not nor should be a problem at all. At the end of the day masculinity and femininity are societal constructs meant to divide us that are just different sides to the same coin. edit: I also find it kind of problematic that queerness has to be associated with femininity to be politically acceptable. That being queer and being masculine are things that cant go together, I understand that femmephobia is real and it definitely is, but it feels reductive that, in the process of fighting for femme validity some gay men indirectly box queerness as something that cant ALSO be inherently masculine. (Not problematic toxic masculinity ofc but yall know what I mean). Everything in balance.
Terrielle Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Self hate + lack of dignity. Although tbh, a lot of gays are shallow, vapid and insufferable on gay apps and straight guys can be much nicer and more approachable in certain cases so maybe that's part of it?
Brishka Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Terrielle said: Self hate + lack of dignity. Although tbh, a lot of gays are shallow, vapid and insufferable on gay apps and straight guys can be much nicer and more approachable in certain cases so maybe that's part of it? Lack of what?
Orsay Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Idk. Straight guys are nothing special. A lot of them act like ******* more than gay men/straight women I know istg
Bosque Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 People here equating "straight" with "masculine" yikes
Maestro Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 I find a lot of these comments quite harsh and cruel to the gay community. You can’t choose who you’re attracted to so a little more compassion wouldn’t go amiss. My belief is that because so many gay men were ostracised by society and particularly by heterosexual men, we have a desire and need to please them. Society told us we were wrong, but alpha masculine men were right. Lots of us probably tried to emulate those heterosexual men, some of us probably still do. And that led to a need to be accepted by them, for them to think we’re ‘ok’. We began to think of them as what society wanted, the kings, the A standard. And that’s why so many gay men want to be ‘used’ by straight men - to get the acceptance they’ve been yearning for from them for years. It is also internalised homophobia. You may accept yourself, but society’s lessons about how to be and not to be are deeply ingrained in our minds. So everyone should be a bit kinder when they parade around the term - it isn’t a choice. That’s my take anyway, and all the things I’m trying to unlearn myself.
Taylucifer Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) because a lot of gay guys think they’re Regina George but in reality they’re just George in simple terms, a lot of gay guys wanna be girls so bad Edited January 9, 2023 by Taylucifer
mylicious Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Maestro said: I find a lot of these comments quite harsh and cruel to the gay community. You can’t choose who you’re attracted to so a little more compassion wouldn’t go amiss. My belief is that because so many gay men were ostracised by society and particularly by heterosexual men, we have a desire and need to please them. Society told us we were wrong, but alpha masculine men were right. Lots of us probably tried to emulate those heterosexual men, some of us probably still do. And that led to a need to be accepted by them, for them to think we’re ‘ok’. We began to think of them as what society wanted, the kings, the A standard. And that’s why so many gay men want to be ‘used’ by straight men - to get the acceptance they’ve been yearning for from them for years. It is also internalised homophobia. You may accept yourself, but society’s lessons about how to be and not to be are deeply ingrained in our minds. So everyone should be a bit kinder when they parade around the term - it isn’t a choice. That’s my take anyway, and all the things I’m trying to unlearn myself. I am sorry but no.
Maestro Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, mylicious said: I am sorry but no. No what?
krustysalt Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dephira said: People here equating "straight" with "masculine" yikes I am shooked
DenzxShe Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 people will say cause of masculinity, however i have to disagree to an extent. it’s more so the thrill of having something we know we shouldn’t. like the forbidden apple. it’s that validation that someone wants you despite it being taboo. at the end of the day it’s a game. also men (of all types) are just so cute!
Boysdontcry Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Sergi91 said: Because gay men are attracted to masculinity Exactly. And straight men make up more of the population than gay men do, so it’s just statistical that a gay man will find a straight man attractive. I’ll never forget this tweet I saw once that said: “leaked songs are like straight men. They just seem really good because we can’t have them”.
JoeAg Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 the only straight men i’m attracted to are the ones with beautiful long hair. not nearly enough queer men have long hair and it makes me so sad lol… in the ideal Joe universe all men have grown their hair out and more men have tattoos and piercings. truly a dream
Filpo Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Maestro said: I find a lot of these comments quite harsh and cruel to the gay community. You can’t choose who you’re attracted to so a little more compassion wouldn’t go amiss. My belief is that because so many gay men were ostracised by society and particularly by heterosexual men, we have a desire and need to please them. Society told us we were wrong, but alpha masculine men were right. Lots of us probably tried to emulate those heterosexual men, some of us probably still do. And that led to a need to be accepted by them, for them to think we’re ‘ok’. We began to think of them as what society wanted, the kings, the A standard. And that’s why so many gay men want to be ‘used’ by straight men - to get the acceptance they’ve been yearning for from them for years. It is also internalised homophobia. You may accept yourself, but society’s lessons about how to be and not to be are deeply ingrained in our minds. So everyone should be a bit kinder when they parade around the term - it isn’t a choice. That’s my take anyway, and all the things I’m trying to unlearn myself.
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