Kassi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 These are not the kind of concessions you want from a leader. He’s so weak he’s effectively willing to give all members of his caucus a one vote veto against his leadership. With rules like this, he can’t even run smooth operations or give cover to vulnerable members on hard votes. He’s handicapped himself before he’s even been elected. The fact that some leftists would want to own this type of disorder for themselves is so… illuminating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 One second he’s a koonz then suddenly the koonz is him Good luck booking that gavel you speak of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thuggin Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I don't see even the massive amount of concessions helping McCarthy to cross the finish line. Now he just looks weak, and the Freedom Caucus will be like, "Oh, so he could have promised all these things at the very beginning and he just didn't because he's careerist and bankrupt." It's just funny because at the end of the day McCarthy agrees with them on basically everything. He's not a "moderate" even for Republican Party standards. He voted against the Respect for Marriage bill, he pedaled Stop the Steal, he stayed loyal to Trump after January 6th. The biggest criticisms of him I've seen from the Republican base are for a speech he gave like a day after January 6th where he said Trump has to take some accountability (which he went back on and obviously Trump supports him to this day) and for wearing a Ukraine flag lapel pin. This is not at all similar to the Democratic Party where they have massive policy goal disagreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, Kassi said: “Should never have been allowed to become Speaker” Umm… are we talking about the same Pelosi? Pelosi the one who stood up to Ronald Reagan’s homophobia at the height of the AIDS crisis? Pelosi the one who protested China human rights violations…. IN China? Pelosi the one who usurped power to become Democratic Leader?? The first woman speaker of the House… that Pelosi? THE Pelosi who saved the world economy during the 2008 global financial meltdown? Nancy who ushered in the largest expansion of US healthcare in half a century? The thorn in Trump’s side Pelosi? The de facto President of the United States on Jan 6th? We‘re seriously talking about the lady who just flew to Taiwan in the face of Chinese threats to shoot down her plane caving to first year congresswoman Cori Bush and her other no-name, do-nothing attention seeking friends? The way some of y’all trying to equate this Democratic fundraising legend to that spineless, weasel Kevin McCarthy is so… Pelosi sweetie, I’m so sorry…. Yes. That woman should have been nowhere near the Speakership after losing 1,000+ seats alongside Obama, Biden, Harry Reid's disastrous failed leadership. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Communion said: MAGA already being more successful at moving their party to the right as a movement than progressives have been able to move their party to the left. Good so can any of the so called “leftists” or “democratic socialists” stop pretending that these charlatans are anything other than controlled Opp? And can all of them stop giving them money and maybe give it to mutual aid groups in their communities instead? Their campaigns are an absolute waste of time and resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Kassi said: These are not the kind of concessions you want from a leader. He’s so weak he’s effectively willing to give all members of his caucus a one vote veto against his leadership. With rules like this, he can’t even run smooth operations or give cover to vulnerable members on hard votes. He’s handicapped himself before he’s even been elected. The fact that some leftists would want to own this type of disorder for themselves is so… illuminating. The right consistently demonstrates that they will serve their own interests using any means necessary. I get that you want to pretend that the left, whose fight is for basic economic and human rights, is somehow equivalent to the right and claim that the left shouldn’t fight the same way to enact an agenda that serves the people. This is how dumb liberals are, they’ll swear by “parliamentary” norms til they’re blue in the face then feign outrage when “democracy is gone.” Lmao y’all let it go because you have no “fight” in govt let alone on the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: That's HUGE! Too bad "progressives" were too spineless to make a single demand like this They weren’t “spineless.” They deliberately will not challenge power. Was AOC giving her own campaign donations to several moderate Dem campaigns across the country not enough of an obvious sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Kassi said: He’s so weak From "THE MAGA'S HAVEN'T EVEN WON ANYTHING, NO DEM SHOULD WANT TO COPY THIS STRATEGY!!" to "LOOK HOW MANY CONCESSIONS HE'S GIVEN, NO DEM SHOULD WANT TO COPY THIS STRATEGY!!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Mxnster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I love this clown fest! I guess their voters will be enjoying it as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatestLoveofAll Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 three days and still not enough votes? Its a new mess nearly every new election now is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 The only positive out of this disaster: I’m totally down for term limits legislation for congressional members. That should be bipartisan. The swamp is allowed to fester when there’s no end in sight for many of these people. Too bad it’ll never pass the senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vroom Vroom Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bears01 said: The only positive out of this disaster: I’m totally down for term limits legislation for congressional members. That should be bipartisan. The swamp is allowed to fester when there’s no end in sight for many of these people. Too bad it’ll never pass the senate Agreed, but that sounds like the type of thing state legislators should decide. States should decide how long their representatives can serve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: Agreed, but that sounds like the type of thing state legislators should decide. States should decide how long their representatives can serve At the federal level, I disagree. Should be equal for every member of congress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Gov Hooka said: The right consistently demonstrates that they will serve their own interests using any means necessary. I get that you want to pretend that the left, whose fight is for basic economic and human rights, is somehow equivalent to the right and claim that the left shouldn’t fight the same way to enact an agenda that serves the people. This is how dumb liberals are, they’ll swear by “parliamentary” norms til they’re blue in the face then feign outrage when “democracy is gone.” Lmao y’all let it go because you have no “fight” in govt let alone on the streets They’re not serving their interests. That’s the point. They’re shooting themselves in the foot. Think about it, their biggest political achievements in the past decade has been judges and tax cuts. And only one of those required legislation… which I’m not sure they could even pull off with today’s Republicans. The fact of leftists looking at this total dysfunction and thinking, “Yes, this is the path to progress!” is confounding. Like what about this process looks like it will yield Republican legislative victories? They literally cannot govern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Communion said: From "THE MAGA'S HAVEN'T EVEN WON ANYTHING, NO DEM SHOULD WANT TO COPY THIS STRATEGY!!" to "LOOK HOW MANY CONCESSIONS HE'S GIVEN, NO DEM SHOULD WANT TO COPY THIS STRATEGY!!". You might want to wait and see if he becomes Speaker first cause…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kassi said: Think about it, their biggest political achievements in the past decade has been judges The copium to downplay that 90% of Biden's presidency has been tanked by right wing judges blocking every substantial thing he does. Edited January 5, 2023 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameFatale Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Lucky #7 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Yes. That woman should have been nowhere near the Speakership after losing 1,000+ seats alongside Obama, Biden, Harry Reid's disastrous failed leadership. Deal with it. Must be easy having such a simplistic black-and-white worldview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, FameFatale said: Lucky #7 today? Unlucky I fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bears01 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, hausofdave said: They are just continuing to move the goal posts to find an excuse not to vote for him. I don’t get what the press and what McCarthy doesn’t understand: there are enough members who will never vote for him, no matter what. He’s given up EVERYTHING and they still haven’t budged. He’s had their cult leader publicly beg for them to vote for him, and they still said NO. Kevin is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Round 8 good times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Jesus Christ. I'm out for the rest of the day, I can't follow this anymore See y'all later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Boebert is such a troll... "I vote today for Kevin Hern of Oklahoma" This is the s**tshow you inherited, McCarthy. Congrats! Edited January 5, 2023 by Reginald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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