SZA to become 1st Muslim female artist to top Hot 100

[Machete]

1 minute ago, IBeMe said:

I dont think she claims to be christian tho? She says she was raised with both Islam and Christianity in her house because her mom was Christian but she identifies religiously as muslim and that's the faith she practices because she says its what makes most sense to her and the best way she connects to God.

 

She has posted Bible verses multiple times in the past year though.  Not to mention she is HEAVILY into astrology and tarot cards. Literally said she dropped the album because her astrologer told her it's the "right time". Sis is known to be a mess, so I am pretty sure she is just spiritual and incorporates her favorite parts of the religions she was brought up with

[IBeMe]

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

she might have grown up as a muslim but isnt one anymore. i dont know any muslim woman singing about having sex and doing bikini photoshoots. just because she grew up in the fold of islam and still resonates with that doesnt mean she is a muslim woman. she has a muslim background. that is like saying dua lipa is a muslim just because her family is.

Not comparable at all. There are tons of Christian women who sing about sex. Are they no longer christian? Nah. If someone claims to be muslim or any other faith that's literally all it takes for them to be of that faith  Is she maybe considered a "bad muslim" by many religious people? Probably. But that does not remove the fact that she LITERALLY said she identifies as muslim, believes in God / Allah and still practices the faith. You do realize that you do not have to practice your faith intensly to consider yourself a part of that faith right? I'm Spanish and French but have a Moroccan side of the family. None of them pray or go to the mosque. Some of them date outside of their community, they drink etc but still identify as muslim and are considered muslim because of that. It's like saying Lady Gaga or Katy Perry are not Christian because they dress up provocativly etc...faith and the way ppl practice it depends on where you live and how you interpret it. That's it.

[IBeMe]

2 minutes ago, Machete said:

She has posted Bible verses multiple times in the past year though.  Not to mention she is HEAVILY into astrology and tarot cards. Literally said she dropped the album because her astrologer told her it's the "right time". Sis is known to be a mess, so I am pretty sure she is just spiritual and incorporates her favorite parts of the religions she was brought up with

yeah she's more of a spiritual person than religious if that makes sense lol. Like she takes parts of different beliefs and stuff but her base religion is Islam. It's what she identifies with religiously. Also tons of ppl incorporate astrology and tarrot and ish even if they are of another religion  Why is that different for muslims? In all Abrahamic faiths astrology and ish is seen as sinful yet if a Christian does it no one says they are not christian anymore. Muslims can do all that ish and still identify with their faith too. Especially those hwo live in the west and don't live in those super religious and strict countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia lol

[ToMmY]

54 minutes ago, sourtwink said:

checks out 

Gross. I'm glad I barely know who she is.

[IBeMe]

Atrl is an odd place. It's either yall hate all muslims or when a muslim is liberal and modern then they are not muslim (even if they identify and tell you they are muslim  ). It's like yall have a one size fits all idea of what a muslim is or should be and if they do not fit that model then it is impossible for them to be muslim because they are not out here doing things you think muslims would do.

 

Muslims like ALL religious groups come with different ideals, practices, levels of religiosity etc...Some do not identify with the faith and come from a muslim background and only culturally identify with Islam (which is the likely case with someone like Dua) but then there are those that LEGIT tell you they are muslim and appreciate the faith and practice certain things of it but because they are not in a hijab and are not super conservative or religious suddenly you cannot falthom that a muslim could practice their faith like how a lot of you casual christians practice yours   Tons of you still identify as christian (me included) even though we do not practice the faith too much. This is how it is with someone like SZA too and tons of other muslims. It's as simple as that yall.

 

There isn't just two forms of islam (super strict or not muslim anymore). There are lots of muslims who choose to identify as muslim and practice only some aspects or casually practice a bit here and there but still identify with their faith. 

[Jooj]

1 hour ago, X~MoviePoP said:

Here comes the muslim racism and hate speech from atlers

What a stupid remark. Religion in general sucks and Islam countries are the worst places in the world for women and LGBTQIA+ people.

 

Stop twisting critical thinking with hate speech.

[Iris]

Congrats to SZA 

 

Mess at Dua, Rita and Bebe being 'Muslim' now when they are a textbook example of munafiqun.💀

[X~MoviePoP]

3 minutes ago, Jooj said:

What a stupid remark. Religion in general sucks and Islam countries are the worst places in the world for women and LGBTQIA+ people.

 

Stop twisting critical thinking with hate speech.

Wether u like it or not. U can be muslim or religious and still be lgbt/support lgbt

[Bloodflowers.]

Janet paving the way

[Jotham]

Congrats to her!

 

Unsurprised at some of those posts though since some ATRLers are weirdly obsessed with Islam.

[hallucinate]

muslim queen

[KatyPrismSpirit]

1 minute ago, Bloodflowers. said:

Janet paving the way

the og muslim queeen 

[Bloodflowers.]

6 minutes ago, Iris said:

Mess at Dua, Rita and Bebe being 'Muslim' now when they are a textbook example of munafiqun.

 

All three of them also sang about drinking alchohol, very haram

 

[Jooj]

1 minute ago, X~MoviePoP said:

Wether u like it or not. U can be muslim or religious and still be lgbt/support lgbt

Its just odd to me that people turn a blind eye to how vile religion can be especially to minorities and how normalized this form of behaviour is. Its like an "acceptable" hypocrisy 

[Iris]

2 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

All three of them also sang about drinking alchohol, very haram

 

Not only do most Kosovo Albanians NOT practice Islam but they can't even be considered cultural muslims tbh. You'd be surprised how much contempt most of them have for Muslim culture in general.

[WildHeart]

49 minutes ago, Jooj said:

Its just odd to me that people turn a blind eye to how vile religion can be especially to minorities and how normalized this form of behaviour is. Its like an "acceptable" hypocrisy 

Criticizing any religion =/= hating all of the followers of that religion 

[JoJo]

2 hours ago, Si Hoo said:

Are we really going to ignore all the toxic influences of Muslims?

What a mess 

Tf does this mean? should we not celebrate SZA getting a number one hit on the BB chart because she’s Muslim? Are you just going to say “but their religion is toxic!!” whenever a Muslim achieves something 

[Luckitty]

1 hour ago, IBeMe said:

Atrl is an odd place. It's either yall hate all muslims or when a muslim is liberal and modern then they are not muslim (even if they identify and tell you they are muslim  ). It's like yall have a one size fits all idea of what a muslim is or should be and if they do not fit that model then it is impossible for them to be muslim because they are not out here doing things you think muslims would do.

 

Muslims like ALL religious groups come with different ideals, practices, levels of religiosity etc...Some do not identify with the faith and come from a muslim background and only culturally identify with Islam (which is the likely case with someone like Dua) but then there are those that LEGIT tell you they are muslim and appreciate the faith and practice certain things of it but because they are not in a hijab and are not super conservative or religious suddenly you cannot falthom that a muslim could practice their faith like how a lot of you casual christians practice yours   Tons of you still identify as christian (me included) even though we do not practice the faith too much. This is how it is with someone like SZA too and tons of other muslims. It's as simple as that yall.

 

There isn't just two forms of islam (super strict or not muslim anymore). There are lots of muslims who choose to identify as muslim and practice only some aspects or casually practice a bit here and there but still identify with their faith. 

 

this is too difficult for smooth brained atrlers to comprehend 

[Literature]

Why is this something to "celebrate"? Music like SZA's is unequivocally haram in Islam. Celebrating a #1 on the Hot 100 would be like celebrating the fact a liquor produced by some """"Muslim"""" distiller became a best seller 

[JoJo]

1 hour ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

she might have grown up as a muslim but isnt one anymore. i dont know any muslim woman singing about having sex and doing bikini photoshoots. just because she grew up in the fold of islam and still resonates with that doesnt mean she is a muslim woman. she has a muslim background. that is like saying dua lipa is a muslim just because her family is.

When did SZA say she isn’t Muslim anymore? She openly talks about her experience as a Muslim woman in this interview 

 

https://muslimgirl.com/sza-thinks-about-wearing-hijab-all-the-time-ramadan-muslim/

And I think it’s ridiculous that you believe Muslim women can’t wear bikinis and talk about sex. It’s 2023, let’s move on from stereotypes please 

 

[IBeMe]

7 minutes ago, Literature said:

Why is this something to "celebrate"? Music like SZA's is unequivocally haram in Islam. Celebrating a #1 on the Hot 100 would be like celebrating the fact a liquor produced by some """"Muslim"""" distiller became a best seller 

Secular music may be considered sinful but the “celebration” is having a Muslim succeed in the music industry in a highly islamaphobic society. That’s what it is. Is her music considered sinful to most strict Muslims? Of course, but to the hundreds of millions of Muslims who consume secular music it’s something to celebrate. It’s always nice to see representations of yourself and I am sure somewhere out there an American black Muslim girl is living for SZA’s success as an unapologetically Muslim AND sexual artist. As contradictory as those two things may seem.

[Ombre]

Absolutely NOT looool. Muslims dont claim her. Unless you are Muslim or part of the culture please dont try to make her a representative of Islam.

 

Islam isn't Christianity. It isn't a free for all and muslims dont navigate through life with the cognitive dissonance Christians do.

 

13 minutes ago, JoJo said:

And I think it’s ridiculous that you believe Muslim women can’t wear bikinis and talk about sex. It’s 2023, let’s move on from stereotypes please 

 

Tenets are not stereotypes. You can't sing about drinking alcohol and premarital sex and claim to represent muslim women. White people want her to represent muslim women because it makes Islam more palatable to them.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

25 minutes ago, Ombre said:

Absolutely NOT looool. Muslims dont claim her. Unless you are Muslim or part of the culture please dont try to make her a representative of Islam.

 

Islam isn't Christianity. It isn't a free for all and muslims dont navigate through life with the cognitive dissonance Christians do.

 

Tenets are not stereotypes. You can't sing about drinking alcohol and premarital sex and claim to represent muslim women. White people want her to represent muslim women because it makes Islam more palatable to them.

right. its just odd proclaiming her as muslim when she posts hinduist talking points, christian bible verses and never showcases any sort of Islamic identity. I dont know what is in her heart but i dont even think sza herself would claim  she is a muslim woman as of 2023. 

[IBeMe]

18 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

right. its just odd proclaiming her as muslim when she posts hinduist talking points, christian bible verses and never showcases any sort of Islamic identity. I dont know what is in her heart but i dont even think sza herself would claim  she is a muslim woman as of 2023. 

People have literally posted recent interviews and photos of her saying she is muslim sis.  She just appreciates other faiths verses and stuff. She had a whole IG live with a muslim girl about religion and how she practices Islam. She posted pics of her going to the mosque with her family, posted pics of her in a hijab for Eid celebrations last year, she did an interview with Nessa a couple years ago talking about Islam etc...idk why it is so hard for you to accept she is muslim but a "quirky" muslim just like there are tons of free spirited christians or w/e. Idk where you live or what your perception is of muslims but I challenge you to open your mind up a little ot understand not all muslims are the way

you perceive them to be. 

 

Anyways...an interview from 2022:

 

 

“I stopped covering after 9/11,” said the artist who was born to a Muslim father and a Christian mother in Maplewood, New Jersey. “I was in Middle school, and I regret so much being afraid of what people said about me — that I let somebody dictate how I was,” she admitted. 

 

“We played (shows) in Malaysia and Indonesia and it was really comforting to be able to cover up for the show,” she said. “But I didn’t have anybody say to me I was being fake… I just really loved that,” she added.

 

The singer, whose real name is Solána Imani Rowe, also stated that her and her family experienced racially-motivated aggressions due to their faith. “Someone threw a brick at my dad’s mosque,” she recalled.

“I guess I didn’t realize things were weird and awkward until I got a lot older. I couldn’t believe Islamophobia randomly deciding I’m oppressed because I’m covering my hair,” she said.

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1837326/offbeat

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by IBeMe

[Ombre]

6 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

right. its just odd proclaiming her as muslim when she posts hinduist talking points, christian bible verses and never showcases any sort of Islamic identity. I dont know what is in her heart but i dont even think sza herself would claim  she is a muslim woman as of 2023. 

I think the last time she claimed to be muslim in an interview was 2021. Im not saying she cant identify as a muslim woman but I really hope publications and fans dont try to frame her achievements as milestones for the muslim community because I feel pretty confident saying that is not what the muslim community wants lol