My fave is looking extra good these days  

Just now, Xalric said:

So you didn't read any words of all I'm saying and just thought I was hating on New Jeans uh... And tried to pull a song of I don't even know who to counter attack.

Lol I was replying everyone in general. For your post specifically you can read my post above. I'm not saying the members' contributions are make-or-break for the songs, but if it's just simple mediaplay there are more cost-effective ways to do it.

 

P.S. I don't know what a Birthday is either. Just searched for RV's latest comeback.

1 minute ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

Lol I was replying everyone in general. For your post specifically you can read my post above. I'm not saying the members' contributions are make-or-break for the songs, but if it's just simple mediaplay there are more cost-effective ways to do it.

 

P.S. I don't know what a Birthday is either. Just searched for RV's latest comeback.

But that's literally what u were trying to imply ..

 

3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

My fave is looking extra good these days  

Just now, Sept said:

But that's literally what u were trying to imply ..

 

No? I'm saying NJ's songs are not passive hand-me-downs, they at least like them enough to write (some) lyrics for them. That's much better than just accept rejected demos from other groups. 

Y’all are so annoying. The NewJeans children take what is given to them. No one cares. End of story.

 

1 minute ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

No? I'm saying NJ's songs are not passive hand-me-downs, they at least like them enough to write (some) lyrics for them. That's much better than just accept rejected demos from other groups. 

So now u telling me NJ can choose which songs they want to put out?

 

Woo the power that they have

 

some of y'all are doing so much to try to explain newjeans success  

like give it up their music is high quality, nostalgic and easy to listen to (i dont mean this as a bad thing btw, it means they have wider appeal to the gp than a lot of the "noise" music in kpop), they had anticipation for being big hit's upcoming girl group before being transferred to ador, had anticipation for being min hee-jin's group from lots of sm stans (especially f(x) and red velvet stans) and are under one of the biggest labels in korea.

stop coming up with 500 different theories for their success ffs when its really obvious why they are successful 

also about the newjeans members writing lyrics, min hee-jin had the demos for all the songs they've released for a few years so they added/changed lyrics which is cool but they didn't actually compose, produce or provide artistic depth to the music - and lets be clear i don't mean that as a drag, its how the music industry everywhere works. 

3 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Y’all are so annoying. The NewJeans children take what is given to them. No one cares. End of story.

 

More power to NJ then if they can collect massive royalties without lifting a finger. Hybe is a true charity. 

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by Bonjourtristesse

Kpop idols aren’t allowed to choose what pizza toppings they want without consulting the agency. Children like NewJeans are no different.

 

1 minute ago, Sept said:

So now u telling me NJ can choose which songs they want to put out?

 

Woo the power that they have

 

That's not what I'm saying? I'm saying that have better materials and they can contribute to the material, which is what differentiates from other groups. 

1 minute ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

they can contribute to the material, which is what differentiates from other groups. 

a lot of group members have writing credits here and there  that's not unique to newjeans 

1 minute ago, JoanneActII said:

a lot of group members have writing credits here and there  that's not unique to newjeans 

On B-sides sure. How many groups have credits on all their title tracks besides NJ though? BTS and that's it?

Just now, Bonjourtristesse said:

On B-sides sure. How many groups have credits on all their title tracks besides NJ though? BTS and that's it?

Girl stop embarrassing yourself over 14 year old children 

 

Stray Kids write and produce all their own stuff, for one.

 

2 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Stray Kids write and produce all their own stuff, for one.

 

Doesn't this thread praise them for that all the time? They are what, a bunch of sophisticated 16 year olds?

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by Bonjourtristesse

We’re not doing this tonight, sweatie.

 

2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

On B-sides sure. How many groups have credits on all their title tracks besides NJ though? BTS and that's it?

a LOT of nct's title tracks have mark and taeyong's writing credits.

several shinee title tracks have jonghyun and minho's writing credits.

literally all stray kids title tracks have writing credits from bang chan, han and changbin. 

woozi along with some other seventeen members have writing credits on all their title tracks.

 

and those are only the ones i can remember of the top of my head. 

when my faves write their music its amazing and contributes to their success! but when others do it, it makes no difference!

 

1 minute ago, JoanneActII said:

a LOT of nct's title tracks have mark and taeyong's writing credits.

several shinee title tracks have jonghyun and minho's writing credits.

literally all stray kids title tracks have writing credits from bang chan, han and changbin. 

woozi along with some other seventeen members have writing credits on all their title tracks.

 

and those are only the ones i can remember of the top of my head. 

Great! Happy for them. Wish more idols would/could do this instead of just accepting what's given to them as it is. I hope when they get credited, they won't be laughed at for being just mediaplay. 

2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said:

Great! Happy for them. Wish more idols would/could do this instead of just accepting what's given to them as it is. I hope when they get credited, they won't be laughed at for being just mediaplay. 

people aren't calling newjeans writing credits mediaplay, yall are acting like the members additional songwriting on fully written/produced demos is unique and a key part of their success 

10 hours ago, Eternium said:

They’re significantly stronger vocalists. No shade, but why would Wendy, Joy and Seulgi struggle to pull off a song that Minji, Danielle and Haerin can sing?

because there's more to pulling off a song than just vocals  rv's vibes/brand just doesnt fit with attention, hype boy, ditto, etc.

1 hour ago, Xalric said:

It's probably because

 A: They had to change last minute some lyrics due to the members age, which prove how Min Hee Jin was lying through her teeth about Cookie, because she herself said back when she left SM and signed with HYBE how she had a concept and the first 10 songs of NewJeans already prepared.

B: Some members had problem singing some lines or had improvised in the studio, it happens often some kpop group members are masters of becoming 4th or 5th co-composers and co-songwriter by adding ad-libs or changing the melody of a verse or bridge.

 

There is a C but I don't want to cancel again. I will just say look back at the SM scandal about songwriting when a producer's wife was credit for songwriting in where it was in fact students underpaid or not paid at all.

 

1 hour ago, Sept said:

Imagine believing that

 

MHJ's propoganda about NJ being "true artists" and not kpop robots seems to be working here

 

Mind you Yeri is one of the few idols who actually composed and wrote a song by herself

 

 

1 hour ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

If you believe that HYBE execs are allowing 15-year old girls to have any real input on the music, I have a bridge to sell you.  At most it's probably help with translations. 

 

1 hour ago, dlwlrma said:

The members are like 3rd 4th in the credits, they are doing nothing, let's be honest.
It's just a good mediaplay 

 

2 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

people aren't calling newjeans writing credits mediaplay, yall are acting like the members additional songwriting on fully written/produced demos is unique and a key part of their success 

See the posts above.

The way Stray Kids don’t have a single song in their entire 170-song discography that wasn’t written by at least one member of the group.

the talent

 

13 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Stray Kids write and produce all their own stuff, for one.

 

and now for other groups as well