Pluto6 Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Honestly, I don't really see any similarities between NewJennies and SM ggs except for maybe some of the f(x) aesthetic NewJennies have going on a little bit 1 minute ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: They aren’t doing it. That racist country singer is doing like 600k. Oh, so it's not Miley that's the threat 2 minutes ago, elevate said: Am still shook, will always be shook Their best song and one of the best Kpop songs of all time
MAKSIM Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Red Velvet has had zero influence over New Jeans only delusional red velvet fans would try to argue that. Let it go.
Save-Me-Oprah Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, elevate said: Am still shook, will always be shook The entire eat
JoanneActII Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 min hee-jin's visual work with f(x), red velvet and newjeans obviously share similarities because it's her work ffs also company stans in kpop isn't that suprising since some companies groups/artists share a similar sound/aesthetic because they all work with the same producers, choreographers, directors etc (especially sm and yg) but most of the time company stanning don't make sense when all the groups/artists have a completely different sound/aesthetic
dlwlrma Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Isn't one of the biggest differences (artistry wise) between RV and NJ that NJ actually writes their own music? Literally all of NJ's hits have a group member working as a lyricist on them, whereas RV gets fed with old demos in the vault. It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. The members are like 3rd 4th in the credits, they are doing nothing, let's be honest. It's just a good mediaplay
BlueTimberwolf Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Isn't one of the biggest differences (artistry wise) between RV and NJ that NJ actually writes their own music? Literally all of NJ's hits have a group member working as a lyricist on them, whereas RV gets fed with old demos in the vault. It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. If you believe that HYBE execs are allowing 15-year old girls to have any real input on the music, I have a bridge to sell you. At most it's probably help with translations.
Save-Me-Oprah Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Y’all are so corny spending your Saturday arguing over who deserves the credit for a bunch of 14 year olds success like…
OrgVisual Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Isn't one of the biggest differences (artistry wise) between RV and NJ that NJ actually writes their own music? Literally all of NJ's hits have a group member working as a lyricist on them, whereas RV gets fed with old demos in the vault. It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. Imagine believing that MHJ's propoganda about NJ being "true artists" and not kpop robots seems to be working here Mind you Yeri is one of the few idols who actually composed and wrote a song by herself
newaespa Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) by that logic, looks like whatever Yeri output is better than majority of the songs your fave released yeri more talented than shakira CONFIRMED Edited March 5, 2023 by newaespa
Gaia Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Isn't one of the biggest differences (artistry wise) between RV and NJ that NJ actually writes their own music? Literally all of NJ's hits have a group member working as a lyricist on them, whereas RV gets fed with old demos in the vault. It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. Contributing a few lyrics to a song =/= producing. NJ's appeal currently is the production quality of their music being that its very digestible and easy to listen to. They don't have any "bad" song or a song you can tell was added by a company just to increase the song count. An old demo has nothing to do with anything? You can always just change the lyrics. Not y'all trying to act like the NJ members are responsible for their own success like they produced their own music and made their own concept
Xalric Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Isn't one of the biggest differences (artistry wise) between RV and NJ that NJ actually writes their own music? Literally all of NJ's hits have a group member working as a lyricist on them, whereas RV gets fed with old demos in the vault. It's really easy to see how creative input leads to better quality. It's probably because A: They had to change last minute some lyrics due to the members age, which prove how Min Hee Jin was lying through her teeth about Cookie, because she herself said back when she left SM and signed with HYBE how she had a concept and the first 10 songs of NewJeans already prepared. B: Some members had problem singing some lines or had improvised in the studio, it happens often some kpop group members are masters of becoming 4th or 5th co-composers and co-songwriter by adding ad-libs or changing the melody of a verse or bridge. There is a C but I don't want to cancel again. I will just say look back at the SM scandal about songwriting when a producer's wife was credit for songwriting in where it was in fact students underpaid or not paid at all. Edited March 5, 2023 by Xalric
katyberry Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 I think it's funny how before, a kpop group charting on billboard hot 100 means they've had their breakout moment and officially made it but now- *train passes by*
gugunikko Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, ItsJustMe. said: true, but also the girls would've had the SM sheep of this thread as their core base then and if NJ debuted under YG, we would've had Mel stanning them lol One of the weird things I noticed about YG stans. That’s why ex-idols from YG never have the same success anymore once they leave their company.
CandyCoatedClouds Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Where did this conversation even come from? Couldn't have been that post I made about NJ Velvet music because that was days ago. Even still NewJeans is making Velvet music with quirky F(x) photoshoots. Why? Because Min Hee-Jin had a direct hand in all three groups. That's it.
Pinter Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: Red Velvet has had zero influence over New Jeans only delusional red velvet fans would try to argue that. Let it go. Sure jan
MAKSIM Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 RV would be lucky to get a title track like ditto, hype boy, attention or omg. Their title track discography is complete ****.
Bonjourtristesse Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 49 minutes ago, Xalric said: It's probably because A: They had to change last minute some lyrics due to the members age, which prove how Min Hee Jin was lying through her teeth about Cookie, because she herself said back when she left SM and signed with HYBE how she had a concept and the first 10 songs of NewJeans already prepared. B: Some members had problem singing some lines or had improvised in the studio, it happens often some kpop group members are masters of becoming 4th or 5th co-composers and co-songwriter by adding ad-libs or changing the melody of a verse or bridge. There is a C but I don't want to cancel again. I will just say look back at the SM scandal about songwriting when a producer's wife was credit for songwriting in where it was in fact students underpaid or not paid at all. 1 hour ago, dlwlrma said: The members are like 3rd 4th in the credits, they are doing nothing, let's be honest. It's just a good mediaplay 1 hour ago, BlueTimberwolf said: If you believe that HYBE execs are allowing 15-year old girls to have any real input on the music, I have a bridge to sell you. At most it's probably help with translations. 59 minutes ago, Sept said: Imagine believing that MHJ's propoganda about NJ being "true artists" and not kpop robots seems to be working here Mind you Yeri is one of the few idols who actually composed and wrote a song by herself 51 minutes ago, Gaia said: Contributing a few lyrics to a song =/= producing. NJ's appeal currently is the production quality of their music being that its very digestible and easy to listen to. They don't have any "bad" song or a song you can tell was added by a company just to increase the song count. An old demo has nothing to do with anything? You can always just change the lyrics. Not y'all trying to act like the NJ members are responsible for their own success like they produced their own music and made their own concept Mess @ everyone being trigged by this. Attention & Hype Boy both have 3 lyricists and 2 producers (and there's one overlap where the writer & producer is the same person) that's minimal by the industry standard. Being one of the 4 credited songwriters is definitely a bigger deal than being in one in a dozen.
Bonjourtristesse Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Birthday credits Composer(s) Ejae, Kole, Issac Han, Aaron Kim, Ghostchild Ltd, Loosen Door Lyricist(s) Kim Min-ji (Jam Factory) Attention credits Lyricist(s) Gigi, Duckbay, Danielle Producer(s) 250, Duckbay I mean, it's really not that hard to guess which one is more likely being pulled from the vault and reworked multiple times by different hired hands
OrgVisual Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Mess @ everyone being trigged by this. Attention & Hype Boy both have 3 lyricists and 2 producers (and there's one overlap where the writer & producer is the same person) that's minimal by the industry standard. Being one of the 4 credited songwriters is definitely a bigger deal than being in one in a dozen. It's not rare for female Kpop idols to write the entire lyrics of a song by themselves (Twice, SNSD, RV members)
Bonjourtristesse Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sept said: It's not rare for female Kpop idols to write the entire lyrics of a song by themselves (Twice, SNSD, RV members) Sure, but I mean if it's just mediaplay then some random throwaway singles or B-sides should suffice (aka Yeri SM Station song or whatever), but a credited songwriter can get legit royalties from a hit track, so it's a bigger deal.
Xalric Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: Birthday credits Composer(s) Ejae, Kole, Issac Han, Aaron Kim, Ghostchild Ltd, Loosen Door Lyricist(s) Kim Min-ji (Jam Factory) Attention credits Lyricist(s) Gigi, Duckbay, Danielle Producer(s) 250, Duckbay I mean, it's really not that hard to guess which one is more likely being pulled from the vault and reworked multiple times by different hired hands So you didn't read any words of all I'm saying and just thought I was hating on New Jeans uh... And tried to pull a song of I don't even know who to counter attack.
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