Save-Me-Oprah Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 y'all are so corny with this generations crap, who cares? its all just a way for stans to be able to claim made up arbitrary records, anyway
kendoll2001 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, fais_2311 said: They were so good. Jongwoo the center only got 1 star? Main vocal in this group, Yunseo is Nayeonce’s cousin right? Jiwoong abs I never like this song but they made me watch their version on YT so many times Yes! Can’t believe Jongwoo went into the group challenge with just 1 star. He’ll definitely be upgraded if he survives the next round. And yes, Nayeonce’s cousin Yunseo! Who’s gotten like 0 screen time The Nayeon nepotism and payola is not existent for him I fear unfortunately
illia Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, DelRey said: Since when are they younger than the members of Aespa, IVE, Les Serafim, NewJeans, Itzy, StayC? I'm talking about the debut year 2016, since we're counting generations by debut years, not individual members ages like Sakura is older than Dahyun, Chaeyoung, Tzuyu, Yeri, Arin, JooE and many other 3rd gen idols, does it mean Le Sserafim's 3rd gen? 2 minutes ago, Zack said: Hopefully they didn't perform the title track at the concert so at least there's some surprise left. judging by all the songs and snippets I've heard, none of them were giving the title track vibes so I doubt it the closest would be Salty & Sweet but it's definitely not the title track because there's no Kwangya stuff
DelRey Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Flomik said: I'm talking about the debut year 2016, since we're counting generations by debut years, not individual members ages like Sakura is older than Dahyun, Chaeyoung, Tzuyu, Yeri, Arin, JooE and many other 3rd gen idols, does it mean Le Sserafim's 3rd gen? judging by all the songs and snippets I've heard, none of them were giving the title track vibes so I doubt it the closest would be Salty & Sweet but it's definitely not the title track because there's no Kwangya stuff And that user was talking about their ages specifically, so...
Hazy Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xalric said: Beyoncé is niche to black people then please, she’s a legendary act she’s known in every country possible (maybe excluding North Korea) 50 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: Bad Bunny is a no show in European charts though, his presence in the Uk for example is nonexistent. he’s well known artist, latin music is a popular genre, even Maluma was able to tour arenas in Europe and that was before pandemic Bad Bunny has great presence on the radio and then there’s Rosalia who also has nice following but I would agree that the superstar era ended long ago - maybe we can give that title to The Weeknd, Ariana, Taylor, Selena, maybe Billie - I would say that most people would know who they are without listening to their music and they have that crossover appeal Edited February 28, 2023 by Hazy
illia Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, DelRey said: And that user was talking about their ages specifically, so... and I'm talking about that the logic to divide gens by members ages is weird in general and doesn't work
OrgVisual Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, newaespa said: 1 more month to aepril Drop the preorder links (and world tour) already, SM/HYBE, our wallet are ready Wait you might be onto something Their comeback campaign tagline should be "New aepril, new aespa" (learning the best from Miley) with new song having lyrics referencing to SM's chaotic mess
Cotton Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Xalric said: Beyoncé is niche to black people then Huh? Not Beyoncé one of the most successful artists ever. Please be real she has global hits that have stood the test of time and have become actual CLASSICS. Everybody knows who she is. What’s a BTS or Bad Bunny compared to a living legend 25 years in and still eating.
Cotton Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Also y’all don’t gotta act like Bad Bunny is a factor in Europe. He’s not but he has so much success in the places he is big in. It doesn’t change much
worldwide angel Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 g-idle always gave ancient to me so imagine my surprise when i found out that they were considered 4th gen 1
paperfectdelusion Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 All we know is no matter what generation they in, Itchy still owns the worst discography ever The way they dared to release three worst KPOP tracks (Sneakers, Boy like you and that random cat song) back to back is just
Sheep Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: y'all are so corny with this generations crap, who cares? its all just a way for stans to be able to claim made up arbitrary records, anyway Except even some companies use that nomenclature and kpop has grown so fast that it’s very difficult to compare groups cross-gen.
Save-Me-Oprah Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, paperfectdelusion said: All we know is no matter what generation they in, Itchy still owns the worst discography ever The way they dared to release three worst KPOP tracks (Sneakers, Boy like you and that random cat song) back to back is just NMIXX is at 0% good songs so 1
Dialamba Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cotton said: Also y’all don’t gotta act like Bad Bunny is a factor in Europe. He’s not but he has so much success in the places he is big in. It doesn’t change much He’s not mainstream in Europe. But Latin music is not nugu in Europe. Rosalia is huge in Spain, and has some hits in other European countries too. 54 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: There are more non-Spanish speaking countries in Europe. For example, his latest album peaked at #23 in France & #35 in Germany. Of course he's very successful, but his success is rather concentrated in certain demographics. The point I was trying to make is that popstars used to omnipresent across the globe. Nowadays, their presences are much more fractured. The biggest artists in Latin America can be mostly unknown in Asia and vice versa, whereas people everywhere could agree that Rihanna is one of the world's biggest popstar. Then that’s what you should have said since the beginning
Narima Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: NMIXX is at 0% good songs so
Bonjourtristesse Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dialamba said: He’s not mainstream in Europe. But Latin music is not nugu in Europe. Rosalia is huge in Spain, and has some hits in other European countries too. Then that’s what you should have said since the beginning That's literally what I said???
Witnessed ET Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Marianah Adkins said: I think the point here is that popstars nowadays dont have the same level of fame or saturation that popstars before had. Yes Sza and Bad Bunny are ruling the charts however a non-music fan or random local wouldnt be able to recognize them immediately (they might know a song or two though). This is in contrast to the popstars of yesteryears where they were absolute household names that everyone knows and not just known because of a song or a fanbase. BTS and Blackpink fall into this category. 6 hours ago, kendoll2001 said: Right, when you’re hiring Mingyu to be your new brand ambassador, one uses all the best tools in his wheelhouse, and we thank you innisfree
Cotton Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Bonjourtristesse said: SZA, Bad Bunny, Blackpink, BTS are absolutely niche when being compared to Whitney, Mariah, Beyonce, Rihanna, Bruno Mars in their prime. The first group’s popularity mostly comes from a dedicated demographic, whether they be tik tok genz or K-pop stans, whereas the “traditional” popstars are/were consumed by multiple generations across the globe. I agree with this. The way music and media has been consumed has changed so it’s much hard if not impossible to attain such gravitation pull like those people you listed. I just didn’t agree with you calling SZA niche earlier on in the day but I get your point. 1
Dialamba Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bonjourtristesse said: That's literally what I said??? It’s using the word “a niche” tho Japan : 57k Korea : 5k will never understand the lack of touring power in Korea. The fact BP and Twice keep doing arenas in Korea.
Da Vinci Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Bad Bunny, Blackpink, BTS only have the language barrier that keeps them from being "mainstream" The latter two have Ice Cream, Dynamite, etc. but at the end of the day most of their discography isn't in English I think SZA's on her way to being Rihanna/Bruno Mars etc. level, it's just that SOS is her breakout 1
fauxtography Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Da Vinci said: Bad Bunny, Blackpink, BTS only have the language barrier that keeps them from being "mainstream" The latter two have Ice Cream, Dynamite, etc. but at the end of the day most of their discography isn't in English I think SZA's on her way to being Rihanna/Bruno Mars etc. level, it's just that SOS is her breakout BTS is arguably mainstream at this point. Not sure what else they can do to be considered that...and I aint even a fan! Blackpink is somewhat considering the online presence, but even if all their music were in English, their style doesn't really lend itself to be mainstream. Their music isn't US trendy and their biggest radio hit was a kidz bop'd song with Selena Gomez. The general public will never be down with "RATATA" and "BADABING BADABOOM" songs. 1
Pluto6 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) As someone who’s living in a non English speaking country in Europe, I can say that BTS definitely has some mainstream GP hits that are playing on radio a lot such as Dynamite, Butter, Permission to Dance, My Universe etc. Like even my friends who are not into Kpop AT ALL know about BTS & BP Edited February 28, 2023 by Pluto2022
fauxtography Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: As someone who’s living in a non English speaking country in Europe, I can say that BTS definitely has some mainstream GP hits that are playing on radio a lot such as Dynamite, Butter, Permission to Dance, My Universe etc. Like even my friends who are not into Kpop AT ALL know about BTS & BP BTS songs are still everywhere in the states, not necessarily meaning they are super popular hits, but you turn on the TV and BTS is playing on some commercial. They play them at the store. I've heard them at the bar many times. BP not so much lmao. Can't say I've ever heard a BP song "in the wild" excluding my nieces cheer tournament where they sampled 2 seconds of "How You Like That" in a mega-mix.
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