illia Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Girl group wise CURRENTLY it's NewJeans > IVE > G-IDLE > aespa > LE SSERAFIM > ITZY >>>>>>> STAYC >>>>>> The Great Wall of China >>>>>> NMIXX > Kep1er etc Boy group wise SKZ > TXT > ...idk?? if Seventeen was 4th gen they'd be first Edited December 2, 2023 by Flomik 2
stochastic Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, hétérosexuelle said: uhumm they’re getting sued this sounds like beyonce’s my power bop tho Yup my first thought At least they're smart to hop on Afrobeats now with Tyla popularizing it again
DelRey Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Since the year is ending soon, and we are about to enter 2024, I have a spicy question that can start a big debate: How would y’all rank the 10 biggest 4th gen groups in order right now including both ggs and bgs in terms of career and popularity? 4th gen Kpop competition is so fierce and exciting! 1. NewJeans They got sales, charts success, acclaim. Not my favs but they are the #1 atm 2. Stray Kids Bigger bg right now, the only thing they lack is korean digital success. 3. IVE Big digitals, good sales, the 4 gen It Girl, their tour is doing ok. 4. Aespa Great sales, good digitals, great touring numbers, all the members are popular. 5.G idle They smash in digitals, ok touring numbers and their sales are not the biggest but its ok. 6. Lesserafim Good digitals, great performers, ok sales. 7. TxT They are successful but very inconsistent. 8. Enhypen They have great streams and ok sales. They lack success in korea. 9. Ateez They are very popular, their fandom is growing fast. 10.StayC/Itzy Itzy was doing great but they have fallen hard, the only have albums sales atm. StayC do great in Korea but are a bit inconsistent. Nmixx and Trashure out of the top 10, their fraudulent numbers are not accepted. 1
Eternium Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Flomik said: So we're doing the rankings again 4th Gen GGs overall: 1. Aespa (2020) 2. IVE (2021) 3. NewJeans (2022) 4. ITZY (2018) 5. LSF (2022) NJ will jump to #1 when they release their next physical and LSF will jump over ITZY when their new mini drops. As for boy groups, they’re all incredibly irrelevant but after Googling the ones you guys mentioned in this thread: 1. SKZ (2018) 2. TXT (2019) 3. ENHYPEN (2020) 4. Treasure (2020) 5. RIIZE (2023) Are there more than five 4th Gen boy groups? Do any of them have a digital hit with even 100M digital points? 1
MusicFan98 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Flomik said: Girl group wise CURRENTLY it's NewJeans > IVE > G-IDLE > aespa > LE SSERAFIM > ITZY >>>>>>> STAYC >>>>>> The Great Wall of China >>>>>> NMIXX > Kep1er etc Boy group wise SKZ > TXT > ...idk?? if Seventeen was 4th gen they'd be first Not Itzy above stayc
FACT Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Antisocialites said: most western indie artists (actual indie artists) have to resort to retail jobs to actually survive I can’t even laugh at this Not retail I used to work in retail It is not that bad if they need quick money Edited December 2, 2023 by FACT
FACT Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) The fuq ? Not my girls No These fuqing scums (Oh it was SM stans ?) Edited December 2, 2023 by FACT
Pluto6 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Flomik said: Girl group wise CURRENTLY it's NewJeans > IVE > G-IDLE > aespa > LE SSERAFIM > ITZY >>>>>>> STAYC >>>>>> The Great Wall of China >>>>>> NMIXX > Kep1er etc Boy group wise SKZ > TXT > ...idk?? if Seventeen was 4th gen they'd be first I would say NMIXX and STAYC are basically in the same tier though. SEVENTEEN are also not 4th gen and debuted before BP 5 minutes ago, DelRey said: 1. NewJeans They got sales, charts success, acclaim. Not my favs but they are the #1 atm 2. Stray Kids Bigger bg right now, the only thing they lack is korean digital success. 3. IVE Big digitals, good sales, the 4 gen It Girl, their tour is doing ok. 4. Aespa Great sales, good digitals, great touring numbers, all the members are popular. 5.G idle They smash in digitals, ok touring numbers and their sales are not the biggest but its ok. 6. Lesserafim Good digitals, great performers, ok sales. 7. TxT They are successful but very inconsistent. 8. Enhypen They have great streams and ok sales. They lack success in korea. 9. Ateez They are very popular, their fandom is growing fast. 10.StayC/Itzy Itzy was doing great but they have fallen hard, the only have albums sales atm. StayC do great in Korea but are a bit inconsistent. Nmixx and Trashure out of the top 10, their fraudulent numbers are not accepted. You ranking makes sense tbh. Though I would still say that ITZY are overall bigger than STAYC, and also maybe ATEEZ 6 minutes ago, Eternium said: 4th Gen GGs overall: 1. Aespa (2020) 2. IVE (2021) 3. NewJeans (2022) 4. ITZY (2018) 5. LSF (2022) NJ will jump to #1 when they release their next physical and LSF will jump over ITZY when their new mini drops. As for boy groups, they’re all incredibly irrelevant but after Googling the ones you guys mentioned in this thread: 1. SKZ (2018) 2. TXT (2019) 3. ENHYPEN (2020) 4. Treasure (2020) 5. RIIZE (2023) Are there more than five 4th Gen boy groups? Do any of them have a digital hit with even 100M digital points? Horrible takes as usual, you’re probably the only member in here who’s ranking I didn’t want to see tbh
Gorjesspazze9 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 New jeans are undisputed #1. They the biggest Kpop Girl group since BP. 6
Xalric Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Adama said: Kpop Stan always shade Lee Young ji but she’s a STAR! Her stage presence is insane and she’s so good live She's too good of a performer to NEVER releasing music. 1
Eternium Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: Not Itzy above stayc STAYC TEENFRESH - 380,544 Bubble (Spotify) - 14,778,619 (+67,821 daily) Bubble (Circle) - 139,230,768 points (+6,193,311 last week) ITZY Kill My Doubt - 1,293,092 CAKE (Spotify) - 43,332,311 (+226,247 daily) CAKE (Circle) - 98,770,936 points (+3,229,623 last week) STAYC needs to at least double in success just to match ITZY 10 minutes ago, Flomik said: Girl group wise CURRENTLY it's NewJeans > IVE > G-IDLE > aespa > LE SSERAFIM > ITZY >>>>>>> STAYC >>>>>> The Great Wall of China >>>>>> NMIXX > Kep1er etc Boy group wise SKZ > TXT > ...idk?? if Seventeen was 4th gen they'd be first There has never been a moment in Aespa’s career where they were smaller than (G)-IDLE. Why do I constantly see this thread ranking G-IDLE as #3 when they’re just now passing ITZY (in current success) for fifth place?
katyberry Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said: Do y’all agree? Well yes! I just know certain people are gonna be fuming like always
Eternium Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Horrible takes as usual, you’re probably the only member in here who’s ranking I didn’t want to see tbh You’re just mad because I’m the only one who can back up their rankings with actual stats. Just say you wanted to live in your delusions or I’ll start posting SKZ’s digitals.
illia Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Kep1er disbandment semi-confirmed The negotiations must have fallen through as always 2
hallucinate Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 stayc is definitely bigger than itzy in korea right now globally it’s the other way around (which is not surprising)
FACT Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Flomik said: Kep1er disbandment semi-confirmed The negotiations must have fallen through as always This is my thanksgiving, Christmas, new year, Chinese new year,……
OrgVisual Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 G-IDLE are the Dua Lipas of Kpop. They had hits but they don't have the same power as other MKPGs 1
katyberry Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, Sept said: G-IDLE are the Dua Lipas of Kpop. They had hits but they don't have the same power as other MKPGs and a certain user needs to stop pushing them down our throats
illia Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Sept said: G-IDLE are the Dua Lipas of Kpop. They had hits but they don't have the same power as other MKPGs The question is will they ever have their Future Nostalgia?
Adama Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Make a ranking of the 10 biggest 4th gen groups in order Cause I wanna see some fights #1 NJ #2 Stray kids the rest is depending the metrics 15 minutes ago, Xalric said: She's too good of a performer to NEVER releasing music. And when she releases music it’s boring! 6 minutes ago, Flomik said: Kep1er disbandment semi-confirmed The negotiations must have fallen through as always I really hope Xiaoting doesn’t leave kpop, she’s such a star !
Adama Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sept said: G-IDLE are the Dua Lipas of Kpop. They had hits but they don't have the same power as other MKPGs When you said they don’t have the same power wdym?
Pluto6 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Eternium said: You’re just mad because I’m the only one who can back up their rankings with actual stats. Just say you wanted to live in your delusions or I’ll start posting SKZ’s digitals. Leave SKZ alone! It’s funny how you only look at digitals and don’t wanna compare sales, streams and touring or even global charting when it comes to SKZ, since you usually use these other metrics to determine who’s the biggest gg etc. Edited December 2, 2023 by Pluto2022 1
OrgVisual Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Adama said: #1 NJ #2 Stray kids the rest is depending the metrics And when she releases music it’s boring! I really hope Xiaoting doesn’t leave kpop, she’s such a star ! Many Z-list Kpop idols (when in Korea) became A/B-list stars when they came back to China, so i don't see why she won't follow the same footsteps
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