Courtney Love: "Kurt & Lana are the only true musical geniuses I've ever known."

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From an interview she just did on WTF Podcast with Marc Maron:

 

 

 

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“Overculture,” she said, is a term she learned from Lana Del Rey, who got it from author Clarissa Estés. “Now, when you get famous… some kid like Doja Cat, or whatever, it’s a 360 degree. Like, they see every—, up your panties, everything bad you ever said, that whole Chinese ‘one person one file,’ yeah the kids’ll know.”

 

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Elsewhere, Love had high praise for her one-time tourmate Lana Del Rey, who has become “an actual true, great friend.” “Lana and Kurt are the only two true musical geniuses I’ve ever known,” Love said. “And by that I mean they can Spielberg anything.” She compared LDR reciting Allen Ginsberg’s Howl to Nirvana covering the Meat Puppets on MTV Unplugged In New York: they “Spielberged” it.

 

She’s a genius, too. She’s got the integrity that Kurt had. The only two people I know that I can say… By the way, Stipe? Bono? Yes, these are people that I know and love. Billie Joe, sure. But Lana? She’s got a magic thing. And she’s not even ****** up!”

 

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Love also claimed she introduced Lana Del Rey to the music of Joni Mitchell. “She described a record she wanted to make to me, and I’m like, ‘Oh you mean Hissing Of Summer Lawns,’ which, I don’t even like that record. She’s like, ‘what’s that?’ I’m like, ‘It’s a Joni Mitchell record.’ She’s like, ‘Who’s that?'” “Wow,” Maron interjects. Love: “I know.” Love said that she got her friend “all the Joni” vinyl at a Portland record store after which Lana “changed her ******* whole thing.”

 

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“My boomer rock critic friends are calling after Norman Rockwell, ‘Hey your friend, she’s pretty good…’ And I said to her, ‘Welcome to the Thunderdome, Ms. Del Rey.’ Even Springsteen! He goes, ‘She’s our greatest songwriter.'” Love told her, “don’t go insane” and Lana hasn’t because “she got out of the overculture. She deleted all her social. **** that ****.”

 

Podcast writeup by Stereogum; https://www.stereogum.com/2209187/courtney-love-lana-del-rey-nirvana-brad-pitt/news/

Edited December 28, 2022 by NOW

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@GentleDance @StonedSoulPicnic@shookspeare Hissing of Summer Lawns being the Joni gateway album for her

[Dystopian]

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“Lana and Kurt are the only two true musical geniuses I’ve ever known"

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"She’s got the integrity that Kurt had."

oh wow 

[Bloodflowers.]

I need Lana to make I Don't Know Where I Stand 2.0 and I Think I Understand 2.0

 

Thank you "Petals" hitmaker Ms. Love for making Lana discover the greatest songwriter of the 20th century

 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

so she is responsible for that atrocious For Free cover that is a stain in her catalog?

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3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

so she is responsible for that atrocious For Free cover that is a stain in her catalog?

Yes but also NFR! which shifted her image into new territory. We're gonna need Ms. Love to play tastemaker to Lana once again and introduce her to PJ Harvey next though:

 

 

[ontherocks]

2 minutes ago, NOW said:

Yes but also NFR! which shifted her image into new territory. We're gonna need Ms. Love to play tastemaker to Lana once again and introduce her to PJ Harvey next though:

 

 

Out of all Polly Songs, you picked that one

But Polly's style doesn't suit Lana.

 

Still can't forget how Courtney embarrassed herself by covering To Bring You My Love

 

[BrokenMachine]

So it's her fault 

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5 minutes ago, ontherocks said:

Out of all Polly Songs, you picked that one

But Polly's style doesn't suit Lana.

 

Still can't forget how Courtney embarrassed herself by covering To Bring You My Love

 

It's interesting because she has her clear 90s favorites like Nirvana, Hole, Sublime, RHCP, Pearl Jam, Biggie, Oasis, Jewel, and Liz Phair but doesn't go out of her way to familiarize herself with all the artists. Same way she gravitated towards just Bob, Joan, and Nina but not Joni or Carol until later when someone told her.

[HRH]

Lana and Joni are queens, but Lana seriously needs to dump this loser

[ontherocks]

Just now, NOW said:

It's interesting because she has her clear 90s favorites like Nirvana, Hole, Sublime, RHCP, Pearl Jam, Biggie, Oasis, Jewel, and Liz Phair but doesn't go out of her way to familiarize herself with all the artists. Same way she gravitated towards just Bob, Joan, and Nina but not Joni or Carol until later when someone told her.

I see a bit of early Fiona, Tori Amos, but I doubt it's intentional. I think it comes with the songwriter territory. I don't think that she recreates Joni songs. She covered one of her tracks, but the writing is completly different. Many Lana stans hear a piano and freak out, but that is the natural progression for her. Idk, I also don't want her to discover artists and then tries to sound like them or do something they have already done.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, ontherocks said:

I see a bit of early Fiona, Tori Amos, but I doubt it's intentional. I think it comes with the songwriter territory. I don't think that she recreates Joni songs. She covered one of her tracks, but the writing is completly different. Many Lana stans hear a piano and freak out, but that is the natural progression for her. Idk, I also don't want her to discover artists and then tries to sound like them or do something they have already done.

She is smart for always explicitly namedropping the artist or a line from their songs. It's served her well whenever she's mentioned who her influences are but the music is still very much her. I personally don't hear any Hissing of Summer Lawns-inspired stuff from her minus the iconic Dance Till We Die bridge, but Ladies of the Canyon has had a definite chokehold on her after all these years.

 

[GentleDance]

1 hour ago, NOW said:

@GentleDance @StonedSoulPicnic@shookspeare Hissing of Summer Lawns being the Joni gateway album for her

I don't hear it in her music, we're still missing her Don't Interrupt The Sorrow

[rihannafan]

Ugh

[Starchild]

This delusional woman lord (not the Lana comment, the general high as hell and I'm just blabbering vibe)

[collin]

that’s embarrassing 

[Starchild]

7 hours ago, NOW said:

It's interesting because she has her clear 90s favorites like Nirvana, Hole, Sublime, RHCP, Pearl Jam, Biggie, Oasis, Jewel, and Liz Phair but doesn't go out of her way to familiarize herself with all the artists. Same way she gravitated towards just Bob, Joan, and Nina but not Joni or Carol until later when someone told her.

All those bands mentioned were mainstream so I guess she liked more popular music, there's nothing wrong with that tho and as she got older she developed a wider music taste 

[popmusicisdead]

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“Lana and Kurt are the only two true musical geniuses I’ve ever known."

preach, Mariah Carey's BFF 

[Ice Cream Skies]

Yeah, it was so embarrassing bc Lana was out building her own career and making her own name, not sitting on ATRL all day like us

[StonedSoulPicnic]

8 hours ago, NOW said:

@GentleDance @StonedSoulPicnic@shookspeare Hissing of Summer Lawns being the Joni gateway album for her

It's the lady's choice. The hissing of summer lawns. 

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Her praise for the "Did You Know That There's a Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd" musician is especially fitting, as Love is currently working on her first album since Hole's Nobody's Daughter in 2010 alongside Anthony Rossomando of Dirty Pretty Things and Justin Parker, who worked extensively on Del Rey's major label debut, Born to Die.

I missed this - but I noticed Lana likes to introduce her creative team for previous albums to all her friends. What would a new Lana + Justin Parker single sound like in this decade?  @ontherocks

[Ricky Wilson]

The absolute DELUSION omg  

 

Surely the My ***** tastes like Pepsi Cola "singer" is a genius

[HRH]

Hissing Of Summer Lawns is Joni's best album (along with Hejira) 

 

Courtney can **** off tho

[ontherocks]

2 minutes ago, NOW said:

I missed this - but I noticed Lana likes to introduce her creative team for previous albums to all her friends. What would a new Lana + Justin Parker single sound like in this decade?  @ontherocks

Idk. Never missed him, so I never wondered.

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2 minutes ago, ontherocks said:

Idk. Never missed him, so I never wondered.

Arcadia but co-written with Justin Parker