CaptainMusic Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Klein said: Oops, misread the title and didn't notice the "this century". My bad. I’m not sure if it’s this century either though, Eminem had The Eminem Show and 8 Mile in 2002: US alone: 1. Eminem — The Eminem Show: 7,608,000 5. Soundtrack — 8 Mile: 3,498,000 11.106M He was global so did at least twice that worldwide making it 22-23M. Add catalog sales from Marshall Mathers LP, Slim Shady LP and D12 and he probably did about 25M units in 2002. It’s also a bit easier to accumulate total units in the streaming era than during the pure sales so hard to compare.
Taylena Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 It doesn't matter what anyone says, streaming or not, this is absolutely massive and nobody even came close recently except for Adele.
hungrymuffin Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 23 hours ago, georgechxng said: this record doesn’t even belong to michael tho adele in 2011: 21. 18.1M 19. 3.5M Total: 23.3M the lack of brain cells is showing huge and midnights as only released 2 months ago and its still selling a considerable amount every week
besaid Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Nah, this includes streaming. Michaels (and Adele's) were all sales.
Rev8 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 5 hours ago, CaptainMusic said: I’m not sure if it’s this century either though, Eminem had The Eminem Show and 8 Mile in 2002: US alone: 1. Eminem — The Eminem Show: 7,608,000 5. Soundtrack — 8 Mile: 3,498,000 11.106M He was global so did at least twice that worldwide making it 22-23M. Add catalog sales from Marshall Mathers LP, Slim Shady LP and D12 and he probably did about 25M units in 2002. It’s also a bit easier to accumulate total units in the streaming era than during the pure sales so hard to compare. Which is another reason why continued comparisons from different times - are dumb
PopFan1996 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Not so sure about the century record Source? Pretty sure Eminem and Adele both did more in their big eras
Xpress2019 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 5:36 PM, georgechxng said: this record doesn’t even belong to michael tho adele in 2011: 21. 18.1M 19. 3.5M Total: 23.3M Oh poor baby. You might wanna check this one again then come back k?
Saintlor Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Swifties only wanted to accept streaming as a metric when Taylor became the #1 female force on it
1989 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 I bought all 339 cassette versions, that sealed the deal.
Starchild Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 9 hours ago, besaid said: Sorry quoted you by accident, can't delete quote 8 hours ago, Saintlor said: Swifties only wanted to accept streaming as a metric when Taylor became the #1 female force on it Oh my god you repeatedly say stuff like this over and over, it's so weird with a name like saintlor
Cloröx Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 1:36 AM, georgechxng said: this record doesn’t even belong to michael tho adele in 2011: 21. 18.1M 19. 3.5M Total: 23.3M So many wrongs in this post. First, IFPI counts shipments not the exact sales. Second, the math isn't mathing
Europe Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 First she ended the female MJ's career and now she completely surpassed the male MJ . And all of that with NO promo and no performances! Imagine if she actually tried. Madonna you're next.
mrpartyrocker Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Be humble and don’t push it!! Taylor’s numbers don’t include only pure sales(streams have helped a lot) so not on par with MJ.
Erreur2 La Nature Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 If this isn’t enough to prove anyone that streaming is getting out of hands…
The Music Industry Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 12:36 PM, georgechxng said: this record doesn’t even belong to michael tho adele in 2011: 21. 18.1M 19. 3.5M Total: 23.3M You tried
WildHeart Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 8 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: Taylor’s numbers don’t include only pure sales(streams have helped a lot) so not on par with MJ. As if better sales climate didn't help other artists back then
mrpartyrocker Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said: As if better sales climate didn't help other artists back then Name me at least 2 more artists doing the same numbers as MJ back then Either way, you cannot compare 2 artists from 2 different sales area when Taylor’s numbers are majorly inflated by streams
WildHeart Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: Either way, you cannot compare 2 artists from 2 different sales area when Taylor’s numbers are majorly inflated by streams Again, streams don't "inflate" sales. They just count as sales because that's how people consume music nowadays and physical sales are almost nonexistent. If they were inflating sales, we could see much better unit sales compared to past nowadays which is not the case. She is not in advantage.
mrpartyrocker Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Again, streams don't "inflate" sales. They just count as sales because that's how people consume music nowadays and physical sales are almost nonexistent. If they were inflating sales, we could see much better unit sales compared to past nowadays which is not the case. She is not in advantage. She is in advantage as her pure sales are not that different from 10 years ago (estimation). Streams count as sales no one said it’s negative but it does bring her more numbers.
Yuanyu Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 11:53 AM, wastedpotential said: And I love seeing the one Eminem fan on this website run in to defend his honor when Taylor breaks a record you think he should have Just because this wasn’t a widely discussed record (and why would it be, MJ died 13 years ago and no one has been close to breaking it since) doesn’t mean it doesn’t count. There are plenty of people in the industry who want to see Taylor fall, if these numbers were truly fake, Scooter would have TMZ screaming about it already How annoying it must be that the only person who has sold more albums in this century than you is a guy who has 0 interest in selling records while you try to sell multiple covers and formats to your fans to increase your sales I see you have clear information that I don't have, so it would be great if you could share with us the best year in sales of artists like Eminem Adele Norah Jones BSB NSYNC Usher MJ (including singles sales not only pure sales) ... And while we're at it, it would be great if you could tell us from which platforms those millions of streams come from, because math is not mathing. And finally, if we believe what Taylor's label says (not the industry), we will have to believe what the record label says about the rest of the artists, won't we?
ChandlerBing Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 10:13 AM, AbeHicks said: First she ended the female MJ's career and now she completely surpassed the male MJ . And all of that with NO promo and no performances! Imagine if she actually tried. Madonna you're next. She really erased both Katy and MJ.
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