est. in 90s Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, No More Candle said: Guys, I... I think I like the Interludes. Yes I am not a fan of the pastor talking but the instrumentals of it are just so haunting and hypnotizing. 6 minutes ago, P!NK2LOVE said: I didn’t originally like the interludes either, and I still don’t really like the second one, but I’m starting to see the vision. For the preacher one, I think that with a track as raw and as vulnerable as A&W preceding it, with her pretty much abandoning the persona that she spent 10 years crafting, in which was her love obsessed persona finally excepting that she’s just gonna be ****** up forever and doesn’t need love any more. So she’s just embracing the ‘*****’ archetype I feel in that part. And then I think in the second part, Jimmy, she’s embracing it fully and has become that character. Fast-track to the interlude that follows, where she feels shame and embarrassment after the encounter, as we’re lead to believe that being a ***** is wrong in our contemporary era. Thus, she takes herself to church and allows herself to be preached at. My interpretation, anyway. Y'all get it.
Living Legend Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 My thoughts Sweet - filler, melody is all over the place, don't like it Candy - eerie, very BB-style, something's missing though, feels like it's building up to something, but it's not Batiste Interlude - could've just been attached to candy? idg why it really needed to be its own track, nothing special (compared to what she used to do with "Burnt Norton") Kintsugi - first: sounds like a piano demo for UV with the way the vocals were edited, we've heard this kind of vocals and melody runs since NFR, kinda meh at first, but: starts hitting after ca 3min, like the first half is a warm up for the actual song, second part of the song really, really amazing Fingertips - cinematic, first melody on the album that feels new and fresh, very BTD era storytelling (could be the same "character" of National Anthem if you know what I mean), grainy noise from the mic very UV, 3:48 what's that?? Vocals fading out, almost like skip?? Paris - piano opening really lovely, she should let instrumentals speak more like this and be more melodic, got "Venice *****" vibes kinda, very Lizzy grown up, kinda cements the strong middle of album Grandfather - melody ok-ish, storytelling on the stronger side, very NFR, similar to Fingertips and Paris but not as strong Light - May Jailer goes big production, too much like "Tomorrow Never Came" tbh, the usual folk duet, lyrics really meh Margaret - dreamy 60s folk country pop megastar ballad, "Beautiful People" vibes but much better, chorus one of the strongest (mixing and production wise), solo vocals around 3min stunning!! "waltz this out" finale amazing, beautiful Fishtail - thank god for the beat coming in, beginning of the track pretty whatever, feel like we had this kinda sound with "Summer Bummer" already and can't reach "High By The Beach" levels that feels like it went in a similar direction Peppers - talk-singing much needed style on the album, vibey and catchy, something actual new, wish we got more of this style Taco - very BTD, also much needed beat though it's more uninspired than "Peppers", "Venice *****" sample kinda weird to me (especially because VB is the much better song which just makes it more present) So far, "The Grants", "Margaret" and "Peppers" would be my top 3 I think. None of the tracks on the album would enter my fav Lana songs for now tbh.
Kh-Loud Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Our foragers ancestors used to stalk preys for hours until it was ideal to strike; to think that people in the pre-agricultural revolution actually had better attention span than today’s kids is kinda mind boggling. Of course they can’t sit through anything longer than 2 minutes; songs dont even have time to breathe anymore, no build up, no climax…. Thanks LANA for believing in art and for her effort to fight ADHD! Edited March 25, 2023 by Kh-Loud
ElleDriver Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ahauntingnearu said: It absolutely is, wyd part of crafting an album is cutting unnecessary parts - and there are absolutely parts like that here, especially the interludes. If you can't see that, try taking your Stan hat off lmao You wouldn't say "length doesn't matter" about an artist you disliked, like Chris Brown's abysmally long albums. I think the interludes are essential to the album. So now what
Blue Jeans Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said: Our foragers ancestors used to stalk preys for hours until it was ideal to strike; to think that people in the pre-agricultural revolution actually had better attention span than today’s kids is kinda mind boggling. Of course they can’t sit through anything longer than 2 minutes; songs dont even have time to breathe anymore, no build up, no climax…. Thanks LANA for believing in art and for her effort to fight ADHD! The modern age habits made me want to buy vinyl records and get into 5+ min songs instead of quick songs on streaming platforms. Quality over quantity.
ahauntingnearu Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, ElleDriver said: I think the interludes are essential to the album. So now what That's ... great!
HeavyMetalAura Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Amethyst said: That's subjective. The thing about reviews is that they should give arguments for their claims and all the ones that I have read saying the album is too long haven't said explicitly why the album would benefit from being shorter or why some parts are not necessary. Comparing Lana's album to Chris Brown's 30 track albums with the sole purpose of bulking streaming numbers All critical reviews among all art forms are subjective. There's no such thing as a factually good or bad work of art. Sure, people try to be "objective" based on what the commonly-accepted norms and functions of a particular art form are (that's why we can generally agree a Lana album is better than a 6ix9ine album) but at the end of the day, no one can say for sure. That's what annoys me about ATRL constantly attacking people over their opinions, arguing over whether or not an album is "good" or "bad" when there's simply no such thing. "Good" just means "I like it." Whether Ocean Blvd or any album is good or not depends on what lens we look at it through, how we personally define what is high brow and low brow, pretentious or genuine, necessary and unnecessary, and how much weight we give those factors.
Lana Banana Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, Haus said: Peppers will be seen in time. I really can’t see it. So far it’s like a hammer to my head.
shyboi Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 so far the only ones i'm kinda vibing to are peppers and taco truck, tbh i'm lowkey disappointed you can tell that she is at this stage of her life where the fire usually slows down
duybeeGAshantiGA Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, shyboi said: so far the only ones i'm kinda vibing to are peppers and taco truck, tbh i'm lowkey disappointed you can tell that she is at this stage of her life where the fire usually slows down Hmm I personally dont think so. This album has a much stronger "fire" compared to both Cocc and BB. This album is actually one of her most exciting and dynamic records ever.
the good guy_duh Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 My top 5: A&W Paris, Texas The Grants Grandfather Let The Light In Still haven't got into Kintsugi and Fingertips, no idea how they sound like after several listens
tHE.PARtY. Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Waited until official release and had all day to digest this one, I think it’s in my top 3 with NFR and UV but we’ll see over time I didn’t appreciate The Grants’ intro when it was released as a single, but I love it now in context with the album. Let The Light In, Peppers, Grandfather, Margaret, and Kintsugi were all very immediate for me, but the entire album is solid. I saw a user in here say Light sounds a little like On Our Way, which is one of my favorite unreleased tracks, and I think that’s why that one stuck out immediately. I love Margaret and don’t really get the Taylor comparisons - I just love how genuinely happy she sounds on that track. Peppers is a BANGER and I was floored when it transitioned into the wipeout surf rock section. I love hearing her talk her **** in that first verse, she’s knows she’s that girl The only track I’m not using is Judah Smith (I feel like the album has some sequencing issues with the middle part of the tracklist which can easily be fixed with a playlist - but this is the case with LFL and maybe a few of her albums) but I do have to say I really enjoy the Jon Batiste Interlude. One user previously said it’s her nod to Pink Floyd and ever since then I’m really feeling that Dark Side of the Moon vibe it gives after Candy Necklace Lurking and reading everyone’s opinions has been fun and it’s interesting to see how one user’s #1 is another’s least favorite. Definitely a polarizing album compared to her others but I think it’s a great body of work overall and does a fine job at referencing her past, but still being something completely fresh for LDR.
RideOrDie Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, Living Legend said: My thoughts Sweet - filler, melody is all over the place, don't like it Candy - eerie, very BB-style, something's missing though, feels like it's building up to something, but it's not Batiste Interlude - could've just been attached to candy? idg why it really needed to be its own track, nothing special (compared to what she used to do with "Burnt Norton") Kintsugi - first: sounds like a piano demo for UV with the way the vocals were edited, we've heard this kind of vocals and melody runs since NFR, kinda meh at first, but: starts hitting after ca 3min, like the first half is a warm up for the actual song, second part of the song really, really amazing Fingertips - cinematic, first melody on the album that feels new and fresh, very BTD era storytelling (could be the same "character" of National Anthem if you know what I mean), grainy noise from the mic very UV, 3:48 what's that?? Vocals fading out, almost like skip?? Paris - piano opening really lovely, she should let instrumentals speak more like this and be more melodic, got "Venice *****" vibes kinda, very Lizzy grown up, kinda cements the strong middle of album Grandfather - melody ok-ish, storytelling on the stronger side, very NFR, similar to Fingertips and Paris but not as strong Light - May Jailer goes big production, too much like "Tomorrow Never Came" tbh, the usual folk duet, lyrics really meh Margaret - dreamy 60s folk country pop megastar ballad, "Beautiful People" vibes but much better, chorus one of the strongest (mixing and production wise), solo vocals around 3min stunning!! "waltz this out" finale amazing, beautiful Fishtail - thank god for the beat coming in, beginning of the track pretty whatever, feel like we had this kinda sound with "Summer Bummer" already and can't reach "High By The Beach" levels that feels like it went in a similar direction Peppers - talk-singing much needed style on the album, vibey and catchy, something actual new, wish we got more of this style Taco - very BTD, also much needed beat though it's more uninspired than "Peppers", "Venice *****" sample kinda weird to me (especially because VB is the much better song which just makes it more present) So far, "The Grants", "Margaret" and "Peppers" would be my top 3 I think. None of the tracks on the album would enter my fav Lana songs for now tbh. stopped reading there thank you for your input
Betty White Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 After the first listen, I think this will be in my top 3 with COCC and NFR So many of the songs sound like they would play in a fairytale, they are absolutely stunning My favourite part is that ever since Venice ***** was released, even before we got to hear the full album, I instantly thought it would be the best album closer of all time and I seriously can't believe that it actually happened and that she decided to end it with "If you weren't mine I'd be jealous of your love". Her mind I also usually hate features so much, but they work so well on this album (and COCC too)
HausOfGerard Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Many of you have garbage takes and should just log out, change your password to something completely unhinged without saving it or writing it down
Slayn Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 The bad reviews of this album from both critics and fans are LAUGHABLE— just open your ears maybe girls—
Betty White Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Slayn said: The bad reviews of this album from both critics and fans are LAUGHABLE— just open your ears maybe girls— Every once in a while, either fans or critics or both get bored and start some boring ass backlash against her music. Nothing wrong with disliking any of her or anyone's albums, it's all subjective, but when you see their arguments, most of them are just grasping at the straws. Some of the things they are saying straight up sound like they are forcing themselves to dislike it
holyground13 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 I really like the album upon first listen, I was worried it would be mostly piano ballads with little production around them but there's a lot of versatility amongst the tracks. It's a more interesting record than Blue Banisters in my view. I was surprised by the last three tracks all having trap beats, but it was a welcome return to the Lust For Life sound. Both Kintsugi and Fingertips may take a while for me to get into, they have the type of lyrics that you'd really need to dissect to appreciate.
ScorpiosGroove Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Kendall promoting fishtail in her story…get Kylie on the phone NOW that ***** knows how to promote an album
Haus Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Betty White said: My favourite part is that ever since Venice ***** was released, even before we got to hear the full album, I instantly thought it would be the best album closer of all time and I seriously can't believe that it actually happened and that she decided to end it with "If you weren't mine I'd be jealous of your love". Her mind Yes
Edit0rz Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 The album would have been good for me if she learned how to edit herself. If she kept the first 4 songs to A&W and then the last 2 tracks peppers and taco truck you have a really solid 6 track EP. The problem I had is those middle 10 tracks are not memorable and made the album as a whole a chore to get through. I’m glad y’all seem to be enjoying it though.
flower moon Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 The grants is def one of my fav tacks now. sweet is fillerish. not bad tho CN just sounds familiar i like the interludes... they kinda make the album the vb part of taco truck is so unnecessary literally making both a little worse. kintsugi has grown on me a bit but her delivery of the kintsugi line is fingertips, grandfather, and LTLI and great
Slayn Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Betty White said: Every once in a while, either fans or critics or both get bored and start some boring ass backlash against her music. Nothing wrong with disliking any of her or anyone's albums, it's all subjective, but when you see their arguments, most of them are just grasping at the straws. Some of the things they are saying straight up sound like they are forcing themselves to dislike it EXACTLY!! Like either getting down to the smallest of small details or rambling nonsense at this point
Tyrion_LMG Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Edit0rz said: The album would have been good for me if she learned how to edit herself. If she kept the first 4 songs to A&W and then the last 2 tracks peppers and taco truck you have a really solid 6 track EP. The problem I had is those middle 10 tracks are not memorable and made the album as a whole a chore to get through. I’m glad y’all seem to be enjoying it though. It never fails someone wanting an EP over a full album. Seriously, this a magnificent project, stop with the EP nonsense
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