Squall Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Macron is the worst president ever, I can't stand him
ProudLBS Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 mess perhaps they should’ve kept investing in nuclear energy
byzantium Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 I had "cold days" growing up and it is doable. I'm glad to see that France is willing to make small sacrifices to help the effort against the Russian imperialist aggressors.
Taylena Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Europe will soon find out that maybe going against Russia was not the most wise bet to make?
DonSiblon Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Mitsouko said: Who seasonized this gif?
Communion Posted December 3, 2022 Author Posted December 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, byzantium said: I had "cold days" growing up and it is doable. I'm glad to see that France is willing to make small sacrifices to help the effort against the Russian imperialist aggressors. 9 minutes ago, Taylena said: Europe will soon find out that maybe going against Russia was not the most wise bet to make? Not sure either of these takes seem 100% accurate. Most European leaders seem to be blaming the oncoming economic crisis related to energy companies on oppressive Americans business practices and criticizing Biden for going ahead with the massive subsidies for American energy companies found in the Inflation Reduction Act. Seeing all of these European leaders attacking Biden is kind of shocking
byzantium Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Not sure either of these takes seem 100% accurate. Most European leaders seem to be blaming the oncoming economic crisis related to energy companies on oppressive Americans business practices and criticizing Biden for going ahead with the massive subsidies for American energy companies found in the Inflation Reduction Act. Seeing all of these European leaders attacking Biden is kind of shocking I'm not sure any take from an individual supporting the Russian war effort is going to be accurate on this subject.
Communion Posted December 3, 2022 Author Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, byzantium said: I'm not sure any take from an individual supporting the Russian war effort is going to be accurate on this subject. I'm not sure if that user supports Russia, so it'd feel inflammatory to accuse them of such. But you - and their - focus on the war with Russia is at odds with what European leaders are saying. I mean, if this was solely due to the war with Russia, which is largely only being diverted due to American military aid, it'd be incredibly ungrateful of European leaders to take America's weapons but then bash American companies.
Mean Trees Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Communion said: Not sure either of these takes seem 100% accurate. Most European leaders seem to be blaming the oncoming economic crisis related to energy companies on oppressive Americans business practices and criticizing Biden for going ahead with the massive subsidies for American energy companies found in the Inflation Reduction Act. Seeing all of these European leaders attacking Biden is kind of shocking Well, Europe used to get a lot of cheap Natural gas from Russia which has stopped. Thus, there is now increased energy prices for the continent. Biden who will now be subsidizing energy will now probably cause Europe to lose industrial capacity and businesses. The Russia Ukraine conflict does play a part in this whether Macron or the rest of the EU leaders want to admit it or not. Edited December 3, 2022 by Mean Trees
ProudLBS Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Taylena said: Europe will soon find out that maybe going against Russia was not the most wise bet to make? This is self-inflicted, nothing to do with Russia. France stopped investing properly in their nuclear program and the bills are starting to arrive. Still their best asset though meanwhile some “green” countries who shall not be named are serving first industrial revolution England after spending half a trillion euros on windmills and solar panels Edited December 3, 2022 by ProudLBS
Communion Posted December 3, 2022 Author Posted December 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mean Trees said: Well, Europe used to get a lot of cheap Natural gas from Russia which has stopped. Thus, there is now increased energy prices for the continent. Biden who will now be subsidizing energy will now probably cause Europe to lose industrial capacity and businesses. The Russia Ukraine conflict does play a part in this whether Macron or the rest of the EU leaders want to admit it or not. Oh, yeah, I agree that the European leaders seem to be arguing in bad faith and their attempts to scapegoat the IRA come off as nonsensical. 1) Why would American subsidies into American companies need to somehow benefit Europeans and 2) Suddenly now European leaders take issue with American protectionism on trade? it's all coming across as "biting the hand that feeds".
Mean Trees Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Communion said: Oh, yeah, I agree that the European leaders seem to be arguing in bad faith and their attempts to scapegoat the IRA come off as nonsensical. 1) Why would American subsidies into American companies need to somehow benefit Europeans and 2) Suddenly now European leaders take issue with American protectionism on trade? it's all coming across as "biting the hand that feeds". I think they're worried that European business will move to the US because of lower energy costs. I can't say I care but I could understand but the EU is trash regardless. France has a neocolonial empire in Africa where French industry can extract minerals and resources for cheap so.... Edited December 3, 2022 by Mean Trees
Not Sorry Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, ProudLBS said: This is self-inflicted, nothing to do with Russia. France stopped investing properly in their nuclear program and the bills are starting to arrive. Still their best asset though meanwhile some “green” countries who shall not be named are serving first industrial revolution England after spending half a trillion euros on windmills and solar panels We started investing in nuclear again though ! It’s just bad timing as our power plant are under renovation
Zaram Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Taylena said: Europe will soon find out that maybe going against Russia was not the most wise bet to make? Thankfully Russia already found out that ******* around with the NATO will **** him up, so I think Europe is doing fine
VOSS Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Aren’t they all accusing the US of profiting off the war at the expense of Europeans? A little ridiculous imo
ProudLBS Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Not Sorry said: We started investing in nuclear again though ! It’s just bad timing as our power plant are under renovation We love her again
katara Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Or how about force companies that can offer Home Office to only use Home Office this winter? You won't believe how many radiators need to be on to warm up these huge ass open offices
TasteOfYourLips Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 10:44 PM, Taylena said: Europe will soon find out that maybe going against Russia was not the most wise bet to make? Yes it's Ukraine - Europe that decided to go against Russia and yes Western Europe should let Russia have not only Ukraine but also every ex-USSR country + Poland OP: And this wouldn't had happened if the Western European countries wouldn't have gone wild with their green energy politics and started building their entire energetic security on Russia But btw Europe should do that outside of energetic crisis for at least primary school children . It was a misery to go to school at -20C as a child, even if those children missed like an entire month of school nothing would really happen, like where's the rush?
AlanRickman1946 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, TasteOfYourLips said: Yes it's Ukraine - Europe that decided to go against Russia and yes Western Europe should let Russia have not only Ukraine but also every ex-USSR country + Poland OP: And this wouldn't had happened if the Western European countries wouldn't have gone wild with their green energy politics and started building their entire energetic security on Russia But btw Europe should do that outside of energetic crisis for at least primary school children . It was a misery to go to school at -20C as a child, even if those children missed like an entire month of school nothing would really happen, like where's the rush? Russia doesn't choose where the energy goes. That's under the local government. -20 that's cold!
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