celeb news Kim Petras on Dr. Luke: "I have nothing to be ashamed of” + Kesha responds

[Kool_Aid_King]

Trash person with unlistenable, horrible music. 

 

Y'all surprised she doesn't have more success when her music is cringe with horrendous vocals. Her music appeals to (white) LGBT, who do take rape and sexual assault allegations seriously... which is why there's more heat on her than others. 

 

Minaj has like 0 morals and neither does Big Latto/Saucy Santana/Tyga. Like, no one is surprised these other people have had 0 repercussions since being a fan of theirs means you have to ignore that type of stuff. 

[Lady Claire]

Kim was a broken trans girl from Germany who tried to have a career in L.A. She wasn't forced to sign any contract with Dr. Luke, and yes, she had options (she opened up about it herself in b4 y'all bump those dumb Aaron Joseph tweets) but the record labels were offering her to either hide the fact that she's trans or to make it her career all about it being a trans girl, and both made her uncomfortable. She was then presented to Dr. Luke who offered her a chance to be a popstar, be open about who she is and don't make it all about that. On top of that, like it or not, he's one of the best and biggest pop producers of our times... obviously she wouldn't miss that chance she couldn't work with anyone else back then under his belt and even though he's fishy they had a nice working relationship.

 

Now she's under a new recording contract, still is one of his artists but has the budget to work with more producers brought by Republic, and she's doing so. There's literally no reason for her to throw the man who basically gave her a career under the bus, especially if he hasn't done anything bad to her. I don't think Kim knows how to express herself correctly and takes too much of the heat, but it is what it is.

 

As of Doja Cat, she indeed signed with him before the allegations and she's still under a contract with him. She tried to save face on that RS interview for her Grammy campaign but after that she backtracked (something that people seem to forget). She was the one who brought Lukasz back to the mainstream scene, is paying his rent currently and doesn't look like she has a problem with him either, as they keep working together. She has the money and the power to not work with him anymore and could take it to the court like Kesha did if she was uncomfortable with that situation, but she's not doing that. She used to be a reddit troll and made fun of Amber Heard the other day, it makes me laugh when people think she's a non-problematic sweet angel  but that's another story.

 

Nicki is canceled every other week but she happens to have a strong fanbase to defend her, so her situation looks more of a 50/50 because of that. Saweetie and Latto aren't relevant enough for people to care about who they are working with. 99% of Kim's fanbase is made of gay boys and women, the target who actually cares about the Dr. Luke situation, so she's the one who's taking it harder.

 

I don't think Luke is a nice man as a person but he's an excellent producer. I don't think women should be blamed for his mistakes, even though they should take their part on not supporting him. Everyone who has a take on that situation starts with their "ifs" and "buts" when it comes to other artists besides Kim, when in reality the money still is going to his pocket when we stream his back catalogue + support his biggest songs currently (and none happens to be by Kim). If we're going to cancel one, then everyone should be canceled and if we're going to support one, then we shouldn't be hypocrites about it.

[Frozen99]

nasty woman

[halcyonday]

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Lady Claire said:

Kim was a broken trans girl from Germany who tried to have a career in L.A. She wasn't forced to sign any contract with Dr. Luke, and yes, she had options (she opened up about it herself in b4 y'all bump those dumb Aaron Joseph tweets) but the record labels were offering her to either hide the fact that she's trans or to make it her career all about it being a trans girl, and both made her uncomfortable. She was then presented to Dr. Luke who offered her a chance to be a popstar, be open about who she is and don't make it all about that. On top of that, like it or not, he's one of the best and biggest pop producers of our times... obviously she wouldn't miss that chance she couldn't work with anyone else back then under his belt and even though he's fishy they had a nice working relationship.

 

Now she's under a new recording contract, still is one of his artists but has the budget to work with more producers brought by Republic, and she's doing so. There's literally no reason for her to throw the man who basically gave her a career under the bus, especially if he hasn't done anything bad to her. I don't think Kim knows how to express herself correctly and takes too much of the heat, but it is what it is.

 

As of Doja Cat, she indeed signed with him before the allegations and she's still under a contract with him. She tried to save face on that RS interview for her Grammy campaign but after that she backtracked (something that people seem to forget). She was the one who brought Lukasz back to the mainstream scene, is paying his rent currently and doesn't look like she has a problem with him either, as they keep working together. She has the money and the power to not work with him anymore and could take it to the court like Kesha did if she was uncomfortable with that situation, but she's not doing that. She used to be a reddit troll and made fun of Amber Heard the other day, it makes me laugh when people think she's a non-problematic sweet angel  but that's another story.

 

Nicki is canceled every other week but she happens to have a strong fanbase to defend her, so her situation looks more of a 50/50 because of that. Saweetie and Latto aren't relevant enough for people to care about who they are working with. 99% of Kim's fanbase is made of gay boys and women, the target who actually cares about the Dr. Luke situation, so she's the one who's taking it harder.

 

I don't think Luke is a nice man as a person but he's an excellent producer. I don't think women should be blamed for his mistakes, even though they should take their part on not supporting him. Everyone who has a take on that situation starts with their "ifs" and "buts" when it comes to other artists besides Kim, when in reality the money still is going to his pocket when we stream his back catalogue + support his biggest songs currently (and none happens to be by Kim). If we're going to cancel one, then everyone should be canceled and if we're going to support one, then we shouldn't be hypocrites about it.

Please half of this bs is completely false, didn't most of Kim's fans started complaining about new song and beg her to go back to Luke to get that number 1 while the Unholy hype is still alive, you want her to be mpg with Luke produced number 1 without realising that would fill Lukes pockets the same way you think Doja is doing now. At least Doja made it clear she dont like him and in a live she shaded producer who only wants to assert himself after her mooo **** started popping off. And its not just Luke, Kim is with 5 other abusers as well. Also Baby E literally said she and Aaron sent mails to Luke but instead sent mail to some hacker who told them they will receive them at the office. She seeked to get in touch with Luke since the beginning. There is literally no excuse to promote or defend her, I am sure there are 1000s of independent trans pop artists that would appreciate some hype and promotion that don't work with abusers, focus on them praising the vile **** thats on label is not it. 

[gettsleazy]

36 minutes ago, Lady Claire said:

If we're going to cancel one, then everyone should be canceled and if we're going to support one, then we shouldn't be hypocrites about it.

As far as I know, none of the Kesha supporters on this website, including myself, stream any of Luke's work, regardless of artist. I've said this a million times, but the three Kim stans on this forum continue to paint us as hypocrites, transphobes, etc. etc. I have been vocal about Nicki, Saweetie, Latto, and any other artist that chooses to seek out that rapist for work, and will continue to keep that energy.

 

If Kim didn't want to catch flack, she should stop making bogus statements. She continues to intentionally attract these criticisms (whether it be her own tweets or her wack-ass cronies Lil Aaron and Aaron Joseph speaking for her) followed by her and her fans complaining about how she's "always targeted" "this is transphobia!!!"

 

Protip -- don't insert yourself into conversations you don't want to be a part of!

[GardenPanty]

the way every thread about this situation just goes in circles

[Bicassie]

5 minutes ago, GardenPanty said:

the way every thread about this situation just goes in circles

I have learned to just observe atp

it’s not worth the WP’s that people have been catching here

[TasteOfYourLips]

1 hour ago, vale9001 said:

I'm curious about it. Doja and kim have a contract "forcing them" to work with a specifically producer?.

I don't know about Kim but Kesha, Doja and Becky G don't have to directly work with Luke since few years ago. However they are bound to remain at Luke's label and release albums there (Kesha had to release +7 albums). 

 

I am still not choosing to throw rocks at Doja because as a newcomer she didn't have a choice in producers and isnt publicly supporting luke. If she continues to work with Luke after success of her latest album I might change my mind

[whereisroamer]

5 minutes ago, TasteOfYourLips said:

I don't know about Kim but Kesha, Doja and Becky G don't have to directly work with Luke since few years ago. However they are bound to remain at Luke's label and release albums there (Kesha had to release +7 albums). 

 

I am still not choosing to throw rocks at Doja because as a newcomer she didn't have a choice in producers and isnt publicly supporting luke. If she continues to work with Luke after success of her latest album I might change my mind

btw (not a doja stan here!) doja signed to luke a year before kesha pressed charges against him and the whole legal case breaking out- it's very heartbreaking :( afaik shes been very consistent about wanting to leave her contract with him and has been in a situation where she's being contractually abused by luke like kesha was, idk why the bunheads here are dragging her into this as it really shows their lack of research coming from someone who was also against doja for a while until i found out the details of her contract

[TomTom]

3 minutes ago, TasteOfYourLips said:

I don't know about Kim but Kesha, Doja and Becky G don't have to directly work with Luke since few years ago.

Kesha still does have to work with Dr. Luke on paper.

 

He has the right to produce at least six songs on every Kesha album per Kesha's 2005 contract with KMI. He only stopped enforcing this right after Kesha lost her motion for a preliminary injunction in 2016 because Sony assured the court that Kesha could work with other producers if she wanted to. That's why Dr. Luke is now suing Kesha for monetary damages for not working with him instead of blocking her releases.

 

With Doja Cat, we don't know the specifics, but in that one interview last year, she said Luke credits himself for songs he did not work on before she backtracked that statement and indicated that she actually does not want to work with him - yet he is consistently credit for a certain amount of songs on her albums which makes it seem like he gets the credits so that Doja Cat is not in breach of her contract (like Kesha was).

 

With Becky G, we also don't know the specifics, but it seems she started releasing music in Spanish to avoid having to work with Luke. It looks more like a loophole than an actual arrangement to not have to work with him (especially given her $100 million lawsuit against CORE Water where she extensively talked about Luke's fraudulent actions in the complaint).

[Lady Claire]

54 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

As far as I know, none of the Kesha supporters on this website, including myself, stream any of Luke's work, regardless of artist. I've said this a million times, but the three Kim stans on this forum continue to paint us as hypocrites, transphobes, etc. etc. I have been vocal about Nicki, Saweetie, Latto, and any other artist that chooses to seek out that rapist for work, and will continue to keep that energy.

 

If Kim didn't want to catch flack, she should stop making bogus statements. She continues to intentionally attract these criticisms (whether it be her own tweets or her wack-ass cronies Lil Aaron and Aaron Joseph speaking for her) followed by her and her fans complaining about how she's "always targeted" "this is transphobia!!!"

 

Protip -- don't insert yourself into conversations you don't want to be a part of!

My post wasn’t towards you or any Kesha stan, bc I know y’all don’t support none of these girls equally (and you’re right). It was more directly to the ones on this forum who tries to find excuses for the other girls while dragging Kim for the same thing, it just doesn’t make sense, it’s just hypocrisy.

 

And I agree that she doesn’t know how to express herself and only do worse by making these statements. 

[Mikeymoonshine]

Kim hasn't just worked with Luke, she's defended him. I get that the music industry is complicated and the man is very well connected. Kesha was forced to work with him and it's possible Doja is also being forced to. She also implied he was being over credited for stuff but who knows. If Kim at least had some compassion for what Kesha has alleged I'd get defending her but she doesn't. She's 100 percent fine with him and doesn't care about the victims. 

[BrokenMachine]

Not surprising. It's 2022 and the industry openly supports Chris Brown, they also support Dr. Luke and who knows how many other depraved men they support behind the scenes. It has to be awful to be a woman in such a shady industry, let alone being a victim of one of those men and having to deal with trash like Kim Petras, Nicki, etc defending them just because everyone else does. It's not 'hate' towards you dear Kim, it's just displaying the fact you are part of the problem.

[BrokenMachine]

3 hours ago, Elusive Chanteuse said:

Was he legally found guilty of anything?

The lawsuit wasn't for the abuse directly. The lawsuit was because Kesha wanted to get out of her contract with him. One of the reasons was because of the abuse. The court still forced her to keep working under his label.

[Luckitty]

4 hours ago, brooklyndaddy said:

I don’t like her music and I do feel very uncomfortable about her working with Luke but why does everyone constantly dogpile this girl? It’s obvious she’s having a hard time

 

 Does she not have some sort of agreement where she has to work with him that she signed a while ago? Like obviously she’s not going to speak out against the person who (arguably) gave her a career  

 

 

no, she wasn't signed to him and chose to work with him for like 5 years and only signed to Luke's label last year

 

she had so many chances to walk away, but she didn't 

[BrokenMachine]

7 hours ago, rac7d said:

I don’t get it why do you guys care nikki minaj is married to an actual rapist and y’all give her a pass

Have you been on this site? She never gets a pass 

[BrokenMachine]

7 hours ago, rac7d said:

 

Double post, mods pls delete

Edited November 28, 2022 by BrokenMachine

[Cry]

Weird flex to defend a rapist + abuser and a rape apologist.  

[Thinking Of You]

People in here going back and forth as if it is going to change this situation, or they’re getting a check in the mail.

 

It’s hilarious. 

[fountain]

5 minutes ago, Thinking Of You said:

People in here going back and forth as if it is going to change this situation, or they’re getting a check in the mail.

 

It’s hilarious. 

I’m failing to see what is hilarious about rape and abuse and defending victims. Forgive me for not finding the humour in that. 

[Thinking Of You]

Just now, fountain said:

I’m failing to see what is hilarious about rape and abuse and defending victims. Forgive me for not finding the humour in that. 

You’ve been forgiven.

 

Now, move. 

[Bubble Tea]

What a tedious thread.

 

Stream singer-songwriter Kim Petras' hot new Max Martin produced pop gem "If Jesus was a Rockstar."

 

 

[collin]

Take Kesha’s name out of this thread.

[iiswhoiis_max]

"Don't talk about people if you don't have anything nice to say"

 

This is me not talking about Kim Petras.