KillingYourCareer Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Ferret said: Imagine being pro Israel on Atrl Yes, imagine thinking with your own brain instead of just accepting whatever you heard in the echo chamber as the only truth!
ZIVERT Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 10 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: ATRL Ukrainians unironically defend the Israeli occupation of Palestine while a fifth of their country is illegally occupied by Russia, so it's really not hard to imagine. Your obsession with being pro Russia is so funny not sure what’s hard to understand about two groups of people who have to defend their right to have a country from neighbors that don’t want their country to exist. Whats really ironic is that the Palestinian leadership supports Russia’s right to occupy land that isn’t theirs, but you will deflect and justify like you always do to fit your agenda
Scars Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 10 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: ATRL Ukrainians unironically defend the Israeli occupation of Palestine while a fifth of their country is illegally occupied by Russia, so it's really not hard to imagine. Don't forget dishonest narratives mentioning the support of palestinians to Hamas are popular talking points used to delegitimize the palestinian struggle here, but nervous breakdowns after the mere use of the words Azov Regiment are quite common on this board, not only among ATRL Ukrainians, let alone the criticism of them.
Communion Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 10 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: ATRL Ukrainians unironically defend the Israeli occupation of Palestine while a fifth of their country is illegally occupied by Russia, so it's really not hard to imagine. The irony being that Eastern Europe has more historical antisemitism than anything anyone could ever pin on Palestinians through racially-coded Islamophobia. The sheer intellectual dishonesty by some to try and paint Palestinians as some uniquely antisemitic force while being from and more importantly *defending* the part of the world that largely brought their Jewish populations down to zero before German troops could even arrive is a bit.. weird. Like it's just extremely performative to claim to deeply care about antisemitism while allowing one's national identity to deny reality. Like there's an obsession over the idea of surrounding Arab countries not having Jewish populations, but neither do much of Eastern Europe, so why not offer up half of Lithuania then? Oh yeah, that was one of the places people were fleeing when deciding to go to Palestine (or Argentina and countless other places). Of course not every person who supports the existence of Israel justifies it through absolving European antisemitism or creating racist caricatures of "Arabic antisemitism!!!" but through other arguments (many I disagree with simply because as an atheist I don't believe theological thought promotes some legal destiny). The most cynical and frustrating part of this conversation though will always be European neocons who have waxed poetics about their countries being denied autonomy for over a century yet then devolve into the most racist stereotypes about "Arab barbarians!!" when justifying the Israel settler-colonialism project.
A.R.L Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 When I see these horrific crimes and the way Israel is taking more and more land, it makes it difficult to recognize a peaceful solution between the two parties. RIP little girl
Aethereal Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Nano said: Say what's on your mind. What exactly is wrong with that post? What could a 15 year old do to a grown male soldier that resulted her to get murdered? Edited November 20, 2022 by Aristotle
Embustera Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 9:22 PM, e_yal said: Maybe you should stop acting like an evil israeli soldier just picked a girl and killed her? What happened there before? Can you even start to imagine our situation? If Palestinian's people could delete Israel they would do it within a day. Israel can actually delete whole Palestine and Gaza in 2 days and never did or never going to do so. Also the Palestinian population rose from something like 50,000 to 2,000,000 so no, maybe we just not slaughter people? Israel is living in defence mode 24/7 and most of free countries would never accept it You can continue to fight for Palestine, country which will kill gays and avoid women right but i promise you that- if Palestine ever happen 0 israeli-arabs will move and the place will become another kill-israel-terror-base. Most of these people are also radicals islams. Fake you. Yikes
ClashAndBurn Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, ZIVERT said: Your obsession with being pro Russia is so funny not sure what’s hard to understand about two groups of people who have to defend their right to have a country from neighbors that don’t want their country to exist. Whats really ironic is that the Palestinian leadership supports Russia’s right to occupy land that isn’t theirs, but you will deflect and justify like you always do to fit your agenda Not sure what’s so pro-Russia about calling their invasion of your country “illegal,” in the exact same way I’ve condemned my own country’s government for their illegal invasion of Iraq. Israel didn’t have to exist as a settler-colonial ethnostate, but because Europeans didn’t want Jews in Europe, they gave land that wasn’t theirs to give displacing the people who lived there for their Evangelical “populate the Holy Land with Jews to bring about Armageddon” project. What Israel has been doing to Palestine and Syria with their illegal annexations mirrors what Russia has done in Crimea. Edited November 21, 2022 by ClashAndBurn
Thickorita Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 21 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: ATRL Ukrainians unironically defend the Israeli occupation of Palestine while a fifth of their country is illegally occupied by Russia, so it's really not hard to imagine. They really need to be ztp'd at this point.
FOCK Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 7:22 AM, e_yal said: Palestinian's people could delete Israel they would do it within a day. Israel can actually delete whole Palestine and Gaza in 2 days and never did or never going to do so. Also the Palestinian population rose from something like 50,000 to 2,000,000 so no, maybe we just not slaughter people? Imagine your reaction to the news of a 15yo girl being shot in the head being: “Well, Israel could take out the entire population” and ”Palestinians are breeding like crazy” You’re sick. Edited November 21, 2022 by FOCK
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