justin464 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Idk why some of you are saying there wasn't dynamic pricing when there clearly was. When verified fan pre-sale started, I saw lower level for Gillette Stadium was less than $200 with my own eyes. I even saw some floor seats in the $200-$300 range. Then it crashed so I couldn't buy anything. During capital one pre-sale, the tickets I ended up with in the lower level (towards opposite end of main stage) were already $275+ and these seats were not nearly as good as the ones I saw/wanted to buy on the first day, yet $100 more. Maybe not every show did that but Gillette shows for sure did.
RobynYoBank Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, khalyan said: I mean, did y'all ready the statement It's pretty obvious she doesn't care about the disaster this turned into. And I never said it was Taylor's fault, I just would have thought a statement would have come quicker instead of releasing late hour Anti-Hero remixes to try to stay #1. She got her money, she's reviling in the fact that so many people bought tickets, she's living her best life right now and that's obviously all that matters to her. In what way does she not care? I read the statement as an indication that in the future she’s going to explore taking this in-house and not relying on Ticketmaster.
Vermillion Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: I mean, did y'all ready the statement It's pretty obvious she doesn't care about the disaster this turned into. And I never said it was Taylor's fault, I just would have thought a statement would have come quicker instead of releasing late hour Anti-Hero remixes to try to stay #1. She got her money, she's reviling in the fact that so many people bought tickets, she's living her best life right now and that's obviously all that matters to her. I'm not remotely a Swiftie and have had problems with several of her antics through the years but it's pretty obvious this statement went through several checks with her legal team in addition to debating whether to wait for further developments before making any statement at all.
hungrymuffin Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: I mean, did y'all ready the statement It's pretty obvious she doesn't care about the disaster this turned into. And I never said it was Taylor's fault, I just would have thought a statement would have come quicker instead of releasing late hour Anti-Hero remixes to try to stay #1. She got her money, she's reviling in the fact that so many people bought tickets, she's living her best life right now and that's obviously all that matters to her. i guess releasing a statement is much easier than releasing remixes? and what is she supposed to do? stressed out every day? how do you even know
hungrymuffin Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, georgechxng said: She started the statement saying how she is so protective over her fans to end the whole thing basically saying “better luck next time” this woman is a SCAM. keep crying you are not even a victim of this yet you act like one
PoisonedIvy Posted November 18, 2022 Author Posted November 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, khalyan said: I mean, did y'all ready the statement It's pretty obvious she doesn't care about the disaster this turned into. And I never said it was Taylor's fault, I just would have thought a statement would have come quicker instead of releasing late hour Anti-Hero remixes to try to stay #1. She got her money, she's reviling in the fact that so many people bought tickets, she's living her best life right now and that's obviously all that matters to her. I did read the statement and if she didn’t care she wouldn’t be working behind the scenes to do something about this for the next tour/next shows… if she didn’t care she wouldn’t have asked TM if they could handle the demand multiple times before the presale began, she would’ve just left them to it.. if she didn’t care at all she wouldn’t have made a statement. That’s how I see it at least. i understand that she is happy with the success she’s seeing but she can still be unhappy with the public reaction of her millions of fans. They’ve been flooding her and her teams mentions for a couple days now and I’m sure she’s aware that a lot of people are upset or frustrated. She acknowledged that hurt and expressed her own as well. That’s the most any of us fans could have really asked for from her.
georgechxng Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Redstreak said: Maybe she should have cancelled her tour the day before and disappeared for months like someone else At least that said person refunded all her fans and didn’t steal their money. Meanwhile brazilian swifties have been waiting 2 years to get refunded with all the money they spent on the Loverfest tickets and nothing has happened
Rep2000 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, khalyan said: I mean, did y'all ready the statement It's pretty obvious she doesn't care about the disaster this turned into. And I never said it was Taylor's fault, I just would have thought a statement would have come quicker instead of releasing late hour Anti-Hero remixes to try to stay #1. She got her money, she's reviling in the fact that so many people bought tickets, she's living her best life right now and that's obviously all that matters to her. It's obvious how you don't even read. Taylor is literally the most fan-cultivating popstar. And this hurts her relationships with fans, which she has been carefully building for decade. Ticketmaster has lied to her on how they could handle the demands and they couldn't.
PoisonedIvy Posted November 18, 2022 Author Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, justin464 said: Idk why some of you are saying there wasn't dynamic pricing when there clearly was. When verified fan pre-sale started, I saw lower level for Gillette Stadium was less than $200 with my own eyes. I even saw some floor seats in the $200-$300 range. Then it crashed so I couldn't buy anything. During capital one pre-sale, the tickets I ended up with in the lower level (towards opposite end of main stage) were already $275+ and these seats were not nearly as good as the ones I saw/wanted to buy on the first day, yet $100 more. Maybe not every show did that but Gillette shows for sure did. Listen to me. Tickets fluctuate with demand no matter what. That’s a Ticketmaster feature. But they tend to stay within a certain price range (usually spanning 50-200 dollar intervals per section) dynamic pricing DRASTICALLY changes prices. For example Bruce Springsteen recently had a lot of people buying at once causing tickets to soar into the 10,000s. Taylor didn’t have any tickets go past 1200 despite being the biggest tour of the year by a LARGE margin. That tells us the normal demand fluctuation was in place but the dynamic pricing feature was not, otherwise her tickets would’ve cost more than Bruce Springsteens.
Holiest Dreams Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: In what way does she not care? I read the statement as an indication that in the future she’s going to explore taking this in-house and not relying on Ticketmaster. They likely didn’t even read the statement because they want to shift the blame to her due to their intense hatred of her There is no point trying to reason with certain people honestly. It’s just standard at this point for her threads on here to be full of people speaking without knowing anything. This situation is very clear-cut, but of course Taylor is the target in this mess and not the literal corporation which is being investigated by DOJ. Nothing she said would be enough for those who just want to use this as a way to get at her; because I don’t see any solutions being offered. 5 minutes ago, justin464 said: Idk why some of you are saying there wasn't dynamic pricing when there clearly was. When verified fan pre-sale started, I saw lower level for Gillette Stadium was less than $200 with my own eyes. I even saw some floor seats in the $200-$300 range. Then it crashed so I couldn't buy anything. During capital one pre-sale, the tickets I ended up with in the lower level (towards opposite end of main stage) were already $275+ and these seats were not nearly as good as the ones I saw/wanted to buy on the first day, yet $100 more. Maybe not every show did that but Gillette shows for sure did. No - it was literally not on. This is a fact. Not for any show. Do you realize how dynamic pricing works? Harry Styles, who has far less demand, lower prices, smaller shows, etc. had his cheap nosebleeds fly to $1000+ when he used dynamic pricing. It’s physically impossible for it to have been on for Taylor, otherwise nosebleeds would’ve been thousands of dollars at minimum.
wastedpotential Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, justin464 said: Idk why some of you are saying there wasn't dynamic pricing when there clearly was. When verified fan pre-sale started, I saw lower level for Gillette Stadium was less than $200 with my own eyes. I even saw some floor seats in the $200-$300 range. Then it crashed so I couldn't buy anything. During capital one pre-sale, the tickets I ended up with in the lower level (towards opposite end of main stage) were already $275+ and these seats were not nearly as good as the ones I saw/wanted to buy on the first day, yet $100 more. Maybe not every show did that but Gillette shows for sure did. Girl, if dynamic pricing was on those seats would've been well into the thousands... There were 14 ******* million people in line to buy tickets, so the dynamic boost would've been MUCH higher than $100. Maybe the tickets you saw were a VIP package? Also, there was enough variation of price within sections that this isn't out of the realm of possibility. It wasn't dynamic pricing though, that's for sure.
Severus Snape Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Why are people saying that dynamic pricing wasn't on when there's multiple videos on twitter that prove otherwise? What about the code? People weren't required to enter it. She was so quick to write a letter to apple when she was losing money, or even took 2h to reply to Netflix for mentioning her name on one of those series. Yet she didn't call out Ticketmaster despite all the pressure she's getting. She clearly has been shaking hands multiple times with all those white powerful men behind Ticketmaster for two days straight before posting that statement. She is, in fact, another white privileged business man and some of you can't see it.
nathanspears Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 What do ya'll want her to do? I don't get it? The tickets sold out... she's in very high demand... yes the website crashing was a pain but, honestly I really don't understand the drama
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted November 18, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted November 18, 2022 The way some people aren't even trying to hide their bias here and make her out to be the bad guy.
State of Grace. Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 "Taylor does not care about her fans omg"- An ATRLer who hates Taylor and stans another rich capitalist that also doesn't give a **** about them. This is one of the dumbest takes in this thread. Even dumber than " well she should have presented solutions".
Da Vinci Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 The Anti-Hero remixes and releases were probably all planned months ago before the era even started This fiasco just happened 3 days ago, yall wanted Taylor to just randomly word vomit on social media at the exact hour it happened with no regard to possible legal troubles and not contact her team, lawyers etc. in case she says something wrong? She's not as dumb as yall and she's not just a regular person she's literally a whole brand The fake concern trolling has gotten so annoying this week and everyone is just grasping at whatever they can just to drag her in the name of "concern"
Brando Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, khalyan said: The way Taylor doesn’t care the neverending trolling in Taylor's threads Swifties should take this to the HQ --- i don't understand why this turned into such a mess as if going to a concert is suddenly a human rights issue
Rep2000 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Severus Snape said: Why are people saying that dynamic pricing wasn't on when there's multiple videos on twitter that prove otherwise? What about the code? People weren't required to enter it. She was so quick to write a letter to apple when she was losing money, or even took 2h to reply to Netflix for mentioning her name on one of those series. Yet she didn't call out Ticketmaster despite all the pressure she's getting. She clearly has been shaking hands multiple times with all those white powerful men behind Ticketmaster for two days straight before posting that statement. She is, in fact, another white privileged business man and some of you can't see it. Not you intentionally being dense again. Did you even read her post? She just openly called out Ticketmaster's bs to her. This whole debacle is gonna be investigated and potentially brought out to Congress for antitrust behaviors. And you think it's on the same level as some lame Netflix tired jokes? Even she needs to have her own investigators to determine what's really going on considering they also threw her under the bus.
PoisonedIvy Posted November 18, 2022 Author Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Severus Snape said: Why are people saying that dynamic pricing wasn't on when there's multiple videos on twitter that prove otherwise? What about the code? People weren't required to enter it. She was so quick to write a letter to apple when she was losing money, or even took 2h to reply to Netflix for mentioning her name on one of those series. Yet she didn't call out Ticketmaster despite all the pressure she's getting. She clearly has been shaking hands multiple times with all those white powerful men behind Ticketmaster for two days straight before posting that statement. She is, in fact, another white privileged business man and some of you can't see it. Dynamic pricing wasn’t on. The tickets would’ve skyrocketed way more than 1-200 dollars. Nosebleeds never went past 150. The bowls never went past 450-500. The floor never went past 1100 from what I saw. As we’ve said, Bruce Springsteen and Harry Styles had many tickets in the thousands because dynamic pricing was enabled for them. the code debacle is the fault of Ticketmaster, not Taylor. She is obviously pissed at Ticketmaster. But there’s not much she can do. She’s working behind the scenes to make sure this doesn’t happen again, I’m not sure what conspiracy theory you think she’d have to gain from working with this monopoly that literally failed to meet her demand. If anything she probably never wants to work with them again, but unfortunately they own most of the stadiums in America and she’s a stadium act, so that’s impossible.
TheHiveMind Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, khalyan said: The way Taylor doesn’t care It’s disgusting that she posted this on her IG story which will be deleted in 24 hours. Why not keep it up? A proper statement should have been posted on her actual IG profile or Twitter without a time limit for when it going to be deleted from existence. Edited November 18, 2022 by TheHiveMind Error
Vespertine Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Severus Snape said: Why are people saying that dynamic pricing wasn't on when there's multiple videos on twitter that prove otherwise? What about the code? People weren't required to enter it. Yes, you did need to enter the code. You could not enter a venue's queue without having received a code, point blank period. You entered your code after waiting in line to "unlock" the seating map, but this is how TM pre-sales always work. It's essentially just for looks at that point. If you were not logged into a TM account that received a code, you couldn't join any queues, point blank period. They simply gave out too many codes. And Taylor did not have dynamic pricing on. People who think it was on clearly do not understand what it is
dirrtydiana Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 She said what she needed to say ?♀️ There’s nothing she can do. It’s the 8 million bandwagoners who demand to be there also at her flexing the numbers lol she knows she’s coming for madonnas touring crown
Glam Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 I feel in 10 years people will feel stupid about this cause she's not that great live let's be real. I like her and she's fine but paying thousands of dollars for a stadium seat? What is wrong y'all?
Badgalbriel Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, georgechxng said: At least that said person refunded all her fans and didn’t steal their money. Meanwhile brazilian swifties have been waiting 2 years to get refunded with all the money they spent on the Loverfest tickets and nothing has happened Are you even Brazilian? Cause if you are, you are exceptionally dumb. The tickets were not refunded because of a Bolsonaro Bill and the money was all with T4F.
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