FightDragonsWithMe Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 The OTH's lost and continue losing
Sweetestsecret Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: All I know is that if Anti-Hero doesn't come close to the 327k sales figure on next week's chart, then this whole thing is fraudulent and Rich Flex was the real #1 song. All I know is that Anti-hero will stay #1 on hot 100 next week so stay pressed
pride4jc1222 Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: “All I know is that if Drake doesn’t come close to his 59M streams from this week on next week’s chart, his streams this week were fraudulent.” That’s how dumb you sound right now. An artist overperforming one week does not negate the great, but normal, performances of the following weeks. You can fume all you want but she sold these remixes. Other artists put them out, not our fault they can’t sell them. The difference is that Drake's 59M streams was a debut week number. If it falls next week, it's completely normal. Anti-Hero, on the other hand, went from 13k sales in Week 1 and 19k sales in Week 2 to 327k sales in Week 3 while dropping from 59.7M streams in Week 1 and 35.6M streams in Week 2 to 31.1M streams in Week 3. Had the number come in at 32.7k sales, I might believe it, although I'd be a bit skeptical, considering the streaming performance does not justify an increase in sales. But 327k sales is no way legitimate.
itsjem Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 I love that some users don't respond to posts that don't suit their story Get your faves a fanbase that'll buy 327k remixes of your song in 2022 then we'll talk. If other people could do it we wouldn't be here talking cry us a river
Lille Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Maybe Drake can go buy some more bags for strippers that don't want him to console himself.
Cloröx Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: The difference is that Drake's 59M streams was a debut week number. If it falls next week, it's completely normal. Anti-Hero, on the other hand, went from 13k sales in Week 1 and 19k sales in Week 2 to 327k sales in Week 3 while dropping from 59.7M streams in Week 1 and 35.6M streams in Week 2 to 31.1M streams in Week 3. Had the number come in at 32.7k sales, I might believe it, although I'd be a bit skeptical, considering the streaming performance does not justify an increase in sales. But 327k sales is no way legitimate. You are in big denial. Billboard is extremely careful auditing the sales otherwise we will have another Levitating and LMU situation.
Popboi. Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: The difference is that Drake's 59M streams was a debut week number. If it falls next week, it's completely normal. Anti-Hero, on the other hand, went from 13k sales in Week 1 and 19k sales in Week 2 to 327k sales in Week 3 while dropping from 59.7M streams in Week 1 and 35.6M streams in Week 2 to 31.1M streams in Week 3. Had the number come in at 32.7k sales, I might believe it, although I'd be a bit skeptical, considering the streaming performance does not justify an increase in sales. But 327k sales is no way legitimate. Sales and streaming almost never go hand in hand... there's a reason why the pure sales bolstered and Billboard even posted that, if someone can't see the why or how then that's not on them.
mrmayman Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: The difference is that Drake's 59M streams was a debut week number. If it falls next week, it's completely normal. Anti-Hero, on the other hand, went from 13k sales in Week 1 and 19k sales in Week 2 to 327k sales in Week 3 while dropping from 59.7M streams in Week 1 and 35.6M streams in Week 2 to 31.1M streams in Week 3. Had the number come in at 32.7k sales, I might believe it, although I'd be a bit skeptical, considering the streaming performance does not justify an increase in sales. But 327k sales is no way legitimate. Who actually cares about logistics like this. We know her numbers were boosted with the remixes, I'm not sure why you're trying to make this a debate. The sales are legitimate no matter what it did before this week and whatever it will do after. Her streaming is stable and radio is growing at a fast pace, so Anti-Hero will be here for a while.
PoisonedIvy Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: The difference is that Drake's 59M streams was a debut week number. If it falls next week, it's completely normal. Anti-Hero, on the other hand, went from 13k sales in Week 1 and 19k sales in Week 2 to 327k sales in Week 3 while dropping from 59.7M streams in Week 1 and 35.6M streams in Week 2 to 31.1M streams in Week 3. Had the number come in at 32.7k sales, I might believe it, although I'd be a bit skeptical, considering the streaming performance does not justify an increase in sales. But 327k sales is no way legitimate. And yet Billboard audits their numbers and removes fraudulent sales. Just because a fanbase is the bulk of the base purchasing music doesn’t make their sales any less legitimate. Fraudulent sales are US sales that try to purchase from foreign countries. That’s it. Y’all can not like Taylor selling remixes all you want but that doesn’t make the sales fraudulent. Call it inorganic, call it chart hungry, manipulative, whatever. But you can’t call it illegitimate.
fridayteenage Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Most Simultaneous Hot 100 Top 10s: 10, Taylor Swift, Nov. 5, 2022 9, Drake, Sept. 18, 2021 8, Drake, Nov. 19, 2022 7, 21 Savage, Nov. 19, 2022 7, Drake, July 14, 2018 5, Juice WRLD, July 25, 2020 5, The Beatles, April 11, 1964 5, The Beatles, April 4, 1964 we love to see it. beatles on top last century, taylor on top this century.
omrimayo Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Trying to understand for a moment. if she has the power and like we see she has to sell this much, why wouldn’t she use it more? I mean what will stop LH going number 1 after Christmas with those sales? shocked at 327K. I mean, beyond shock.
Green Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Estimated Points: 1. Anti-Hero 753 2. Rich Flex 486 At first I thought it was a BTS army situation trying to manipulate the chart but her stans could easily have stopped at 130k and it would have still been #1 without wasting all that extra money, which means that the demand was still enough to sell 327k.
Ger Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Airplay 5. Unholy 56.7M (91.50% of Mediabase's) 9. Anti-Hero 51.3M (87.98%) Rich Flex 3.1M On average, Airplay numbers are around 90% of what's reported by Mediabase now (after the transition), it used to be around 73%. Radio has a bigger influence on the chart. They should come with a formula change, because I love Mediabase, but when it comes to estimating audience, Nielsen/BDS has one of the most comprehensive methodologies, and they update way more often.
UNNAMI Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:24 PM, Michael196 said: Midnights’ first week US streams being bigger than Her Loss’ his loss
UNNAMI Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, By the Water said: She really was on a mission to end Drake at least someone is
UNNAMI Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: The fact that this song debuted with just 13k sales and her stans are STILL trying to make us believe this 3rd week with 327k sales is organic and normal, "she did it back in 2012" I don't get you, she sold that number, it's not fake or something, yes it's nor organic, but it's still sold
pride4jc1222 Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ger-55 said: Airplay 5. Unholy 56.7M (91.50% of Mediabase's) 9. Anti-Hero 51.3M (87.98%) Rich Flex 3.1M On average, Airplay numbers are around 90% of what's reported by Mediabase now (after the transition), it used to be around 73%. Radio has a bigger influence on the chart. They should come with a formula change, because I love Mediabase, but when it comes to estimating audience, Nielsen/BDS has one of the most comprehensive methodologies, and they update way more often. The radio divisor needs to be doubled (which will halve the airplay numbers). Also, all the loopholes regarding midweek remixes should be closed. There should be no situation where a song with 59M streams isn't #1 on the Hot 100.
discotitzz Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: The fact that this song debuted with just 13k sales and her stans are STILL trying to make us believe this 3rd week with 327k sales is organic and normal, "she did it back in 2012" Please don’t speak on the legitimacy of sales, .99 cent album stan. OT: Multi week number one smash!
georgechxng Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: I knew Billboard would shade her They scalped her the way they highlighted the 69 cents price is sending me.
Bindi Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 She really did come back stronger than a 90s trend the sales are insane
Hot Volcano Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, discotitzz said: Please don’t speak on the legitimacy of sales, .99 cent album stan. OT: Multi week number one smash! the irony when those .99cent BTW copies were more legit that these 327k sales since Amazon bought them for full price and then sold them for .99 cent in order to promote their new feature
Hot Volcano Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: I don't get you, she sold that number, it's not fake or something, yes it's nor organic, but it's still sold Since someone already brought it up, BTW .99 cent copies were sold aswell, using the same logic
pride4jc1222 Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Drake sets new record with 15 of the Top 20. Also, this means As It Was is either #13 or #17.
Brando Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Green said: Estimated Points: 1. Anti-Hero 753 2. Rich Flex 486 At first I thought it was a BTS army situation trying to manipulate the chart but her stans could easily have stopped at 130k and it would have still been #1 without wasting all that extra money, which means that the demand was still enough to sell 327k. BTS stans had a small number of US based stans who funneled funds from abroad and used multiple credit cards to purchase the exact number of copies needed to edge the #1 or just slightly above to be sure. They used their funds conservatively so they could spread them over the desired period of 10 weeks. Taylor fans clearly acted individually on a completely blind basis hence such an unpredictable spike. But what baffles me is that her team could obviously see that she was selling sh*tloads already and that the last couple of remixes weren't needed to secure the #1 but they went ahead with it anyway.
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