poll do you classify johnny depp as a person of color?

[LatinFreak]

1 hour ago, Monster Queen said:

All people here and on Earth share the same ancestor in Africa, we're all African! 

[Moonlight Nation]

20 minutes ago, LatinFreak said:

 

It's giving P!nk's infamous comments when asked about her race during her R&B beginnings:

 

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We all came from the same place: God. That’s how I explain it, we’re all pink on the inside.

 

[Ricardo1993]

2 hours ago, est. in 90s said:

According to the One Drop Rule that many still follow to this day, he would be. That's why ppl need to stop following ODR. It's not only inherently racist but would allow a Johnny Depp to claim himself as Black/POC b/c of that one drop of Black blood from that ancestor no matter how ridiculous it would be.

I always found that rule to be crazy. Anderson Cooper would be classified as black just for having one drop  

 

[Prisoner]

No. Race is what you look like, it's basically a social construct

 

For example, look at Tracee Ellis, Mariah and Halsey. All of them have a black parent. But only Tracee is 'black', Mariah 'biracial' and Halsey 'white'. At least that is what people perceive them as

[mercurialworld]

"Johnny is descended from a woman, Martha, who born in 1612, and who was of African descent. Martha had a daughter, Elizabeth Key Grinstead, married to William Grinstead, who were Johnny’s ancestors. Elizabeth’s father, Thomas Key, was caucasian, of English descent. Elizabeth was the first woman of African ancestry to successfully take legal action to free herself from slavery. This happened in 1656. Johnny is descended from Martha twice (on one family tree, she is both one of his eight times great-grandmothers, and one of his nine times great-grandmothers). That would mean that Johnny is of 3/2048 African ancestry."

 

Be serious.

[Wolf Alice]

6 minutes ago, mercurialworld said:

"Johnny is descended from a woman, Martha, who born in 1612, and who was of African descent. Martha had a daughter, Elizabeth Key Grinstead, married to William Grinstead, who were Johnny’s ancestors. Elizabeth’s father, Thomas Key, was caucasian, of English descent. Elizabeth was the first woman of African ancestry to successfully take legal action to free herself from slavery. This happened in 1656. Johnny is descended from Martha twice (on one family tree, she is both one of his eight times great-grandmothers, and one of his nine times great-grandmothers). That would mean that Johnny is of 3/2048 African ancestry."

 

Be serious.

[Archetype]

It’s always been my opinion that color-based terms are only applicable towards skin color and have little to nothing to do with someone’s actual ancestry and ethnic background.  Johnny looks white, and having a small percentage of African DNA does not make someone “black” or even a POC if the ancestry is that far back or that insignificant.  Furthermore, having African DNA does not = black or even dark or brown skinned, you could be northern African and look mostly white, or even Italian.

 

For example, my father looks like he could be Indian, Saudi, Algerian, Moroccan, etc, but he is 100% Italian and has been labeled as “brown” over the course of his life.  Italians are considered white, at least northern Italians are, but he has never ever looked “white”.  On government surveys and such, he always checks “white” but he was not treated as such during his upbringing after he moved to the US.

 

This is even more commonplace today due to immigration across the world, where we have multiple generations of families living in countries where their phenotypes do not match that of the native people, or due to centuries of colonization, the local populous is incredibly mixed and diverse (Brazil) or now closely resembles that of the original colonizers (Argentina, the US).  Skin color is one thing, it has never been a good way to describe someone’s ethnicity or ancestry.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Archetype

[suburbannature]

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[getBusy]

1 hour ago, sourprint said:

rosalía is a spaniard woman and that makes her european, europeans are from the white race.. the math isn't mathing

 

well, you can be Spaniard AND black, European AND black. You're mixing things now. But yes, Rosalia is white.

 

 

[blueberries]

He isn't blond and pale so he's not white.