Lover Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 first gaga then trisha and now taylor. that's what i call an evolution.
Reginald Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Queen of sales? Yes. Queen of the GP? Yes. Queen of consistent quality? Not necessarily. But, people love her.
ricardoazevedo Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Madonna doesnt even have one album with more than 500M streams nice try And Taylor have breaking moments in her career like Madonna? No.Today is easy to have streams, but to sell records no, imagine if streams existed in M time? Taylor and the rest would be an as been.
Badgalbriel Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, ricardoazevedo said: And Taylor have breaking moments in her career like Madonna? No.Today is easy to have streams, but to sell records no, imagine if streams existed in M time? Taylor and the rest would be an as been. Taylor is the biggest pure seller of this generation. What the heck makes you think she wouldn't sell just as much as Madonna back in the day?
PopKills Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 What I would find interesting to know is if Madonna had a hardcore fanbase like Taylor back in the day?
Taylucifer Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Madonna can keep the QoP title The Music Industry sounds better for Taylor
PoisonedIvy Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, gustavothehuman said: Madonna will always be the queen of pop. Taylor more than earned her own title and we should stick with it (The Music Industry). 2 hours ago, Jude said: QOP is a boring title, The Music Industry is much better. Agreed
gustavothehuman Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: The titles of King and Queen of Pop should not be passed down from generation to generation. It's counterintuitive and frankly disrespectful. Focusing on Madonna here, she broke countless boundaries in terms of sexual expression, tackled several controversial topics in her music and videos, popularized reinventing one's sound and image each era, and took an innovative approach to touring that has since become the standard for all female performers. That's why she's the Queen of Pop and will always keep that title beyond sales and numbers. Taylor is building a beautiful and impressive career in her own right, so it's only fair she's given her own unique title. Considering her incredible consistency and longevity (reaching new peaks when least expected), unbelievable commercial power, and her fight for artists' rights - be it with her Spotify boycott or her raising awareness to the important of owning your masters, 'The Music Industry' is very fitting. I couldn't have said it any better, amazing titles for amazing women! Edited October 29, 2022 by gustavothehuman
Gui Blackout Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 At this point she transcends being the Queen of Pop or any genre. Queen of Music is more fitting, or The Music Industry as it was already coined.
UnusualBoy Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 The term new Queen of Pop has been thrown out several times with other girlies so ma'am, Madonna is and will always be the queen. However, this doesn't mean Taylor doesn't deserve her own title, girl is basically doing what other girls could only dream of and she's worked hard to get it.
Trent W Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Taylor is bigger than pop tho. Tbh Taylor will have a much bigger career, she had the advantage to start as a teen, madonna got big until her 30s, so there’s that. Taylor will be the biggest female musician all time soon and she earned it. Madonna will always have her influence and cultural impact, but we have to admit that her legacy has been severely damaged the last 10 years.
Brando Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, ricardoazevedo said: Are you sure? I don`t think so, you probably wasn`t born when she was at her peak, and i tell you, she was the bomb, the most famous woman at that time, only with Princess Di at the same level. And no social media to help, only written press, radio and tv. Taylor is at this time at the same level as her but she don`t have the career highlights that M did. But i think she will have, someday. dominant on the charts
Da Vinci Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Taylor's success includes her work in the country, alternative and folk genres so Queen of Pop doesn't suit her Madonna did so much for women and the gays and elevated the pop genre with acclaimed albums like Like a Prayer and Ray of Light Only Madonna can be the Queen of Pop
Solaria Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: Girl, people are not really listening to Madonna at all She has the highest monthly listeners out of all her peers though.
Redstreak Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 The Music Industry is more fitting. I think legacy wise, and why it’s more accurate to compare Taylor to artists like The Beatles instead, is that her main remembrance will be for her music rather than stunts and antics
stevyy Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Brando said: I mean Madonna's overall career is still bigger, I just meant that Madonna never had such a concentrated domination like we see with Midnights or with Taylor charting 6-7 albums every week, consistently outperforming all the biggest artists of the times, hence the Music Industry title physical sales era was differnet than digital-streaming era. Nice try tho.
stevyy Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Also: Isn't it true that Madonna has outsold Taylor in The US by 2:1 and in the rest of the world by at least 6/7 : 1? How does Maths work when people say that she has surpassed Madonna? Madonna has a minimum of 80 million albums sales in the USA and the same in Europe. Add some cute sps numbers or whatever and these numbers will only go one-way = up! Only using Madge's sales: 210 million albums + 150 million singles = 360,000,000 recodings streaming equivalents or whatever: minimum 220 million albums + 180 million singles = 400,000,000 recordings ?! Madonna had a million hit singles and hit albums... like... she defined the 1980s and was top 3 in the 1990s and 2000s. lol. We should stop these senseless topics.
Brando Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, stevyy said: physical sales era was differnet than digital-streaming era. Nice try tho. Ye, but having the biggest albums consistently (top 5 almost every year) isn't unique to streaming age
EnigmaticAndroid Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Brando said: Yup. Cause let's be fair, Madonna was never this dominant. Now we're saying it
MonsterJohn Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 she doesn't even have a classic song let's start with that
Lover Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, stevyy said: Also: Isn't it true that Madonna has outsold Taylor in The US by 2:1 and in the rest of the world by at least 6/7 : 1? How does Maths work when people say that she has surpassed Madonna? Madonna has a minimum of 80 million albums sales in the USA and the same in Europe. Add some cute sps numbers or whatever and these numbers will only go one-way = up! Only using Madge's sales: 210 million albums + 150 million singles = 360,000,000 recodings streaming equivalents or whatever: minimum 220 million albums + 180 million singles = 400,000,000 recordings ?! Madonna had a million hit singles and hit albums... like... she defined the 1980s and was top 3 in the 1990s and 2000s. lol. We should stop these senseless topics. get those braindead rats
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