rihannafan Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Protocol said: Spotify: #15 Canada (+6) #15 Sweden (-3) #17 Germany (-1) #19 Netherlands (-1) #22 Australia (-3) #22 United Kingdom #26 United States (+4) #29 France (-8) #47 Brazil (-7) #60 Poland (-1) #65 Spain (+1) #69 Italy (-7) #124 Philippines (-9) I have to say, this is somewhat shocking I think the long wait may have affected her more than people realized. To millennials, Rihanna is super iconic of course. But what about to the average 15 year old today, which is the age range who determines who gets a hit? Do they really care about Rihanna? Harder question to answer than it may seem. Her make-up does great but it's target audience is the millennial adults who grew up listening to her, not the streaming audience which is mostly teens/early 20s. Think about it. A 15 year old today was born in 2007. They have no memory of "Umbrella". Barely any memory if at all of "We Found Love". The first Rihanna era they would've been fully aware of would be 'Anti' but that was a more adult, mature album aimed at a bit of an older audience, not bright upbeat pop music that kids would listen to. I think Beyonce finds herself in a similar predicament which is why 'Renaissance' Spotify numbers aren't great. Taylor aggressively going back to bright colours and cheesy music for 'Lover' may have been a good strategy in the end, it seemed to reintroduce her to younger audiences. This is a soundtrack song. Touch grass. Also, rebounding on US spotify Edited November 3, 2022 by rihannafan
Jude Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocol said: Spotify: #15 Canada (+6) #15 Sweden (-3) #17 Germany (-1) #19 Netherlands (-1) #22 Australia (-3) #22 United Kingdom #26 United States (+4) #29 France (-8) #47 Brazil (-7) #60 Poland (-1) #65 Spain (+1) #69 Italy (-7) #124 Philippines (-9) I have to say, this is somewhat shocking I think the long wait may have affected her more than people realized. To millennials, Rihanna is super iconic of course. But what about to the average 15 year old today, which is the age range who determines who gets a hit? Do they really care about Rihanna? Harder question to answer than it may seem. Her make-up does great but it's target audience is the millennial adults who grew up listening to her, not the streaming audience which is mostly teens/early 20s. Think about it. A 15 year old today was born in 2007. They have no memory of "Umbrella". Barely any memory if at all of "We Found Love". The first Rihanna era they would've been fully aware of would be 'Anti' but that was a more adult, mature album aimed at a bit of an older audience, not bright upbeat pop music that kids would listen to. I think Beyonce finds herself in a similar predicament which is why 'Renaissance' Spotify numbers aren't great. Taylor aggressively going back to bright colours and cheesy music for 'Lover' may have been a good strategy in the end, it seemed to reintroduce her to younger audiences. WTF is this essay.
Truth Tella Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocol said: Spotify: #15 Canada (+6) #15 Sweden (-3) #17 Germany (-1) #19 Netherlands (-1) #22 Australia (-3) #22 United Kingdom #26 United States (+4) #29 France (-8) #47 Brazil (-7) #60 Poland (-1) #65 Spain (+1) #69 Italy (-7) #124 Philippines (-9) I have to say, this is somewhat shocking I think the long wait may have affected her more than people realized. To millennials, Rihanna is super iconic of course. But what about to the average 15 year old today, which is the age range who determines who gets a hit? Do they really care about Rihanna? Harder question to answer than it may seem. Her make-up does great but it's target audience is the millennial adults who grew up listening to her, not the streaming audience which is mostly teens/early 20s. Think about it. A 15 year old today was born in 2007. They have no memory of "Umbrella". Barely any memory if at all of "We Found Love". The first Rihanna era they would've been fully aware of would be 'Anti' but that was a more adult, mature album aimed at a bit of an older audience, not bright upbeat pop music that kids would listen to. I think Beyonce finds herself in a similar predicament which is why 'Renaissance' Spotify numbers aren't great. Taylor aggressively going back to bright colours and cheesy music for 'Lover' may have been a good strategy in the end, it seemed to reintroduce her to younger audiences. Are you ok?
Lein Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 I remember when people used to cry her streams were too high during ANTi's era but the sales were low. Now the opposite ..keep the tears flow over a lullaby.
Lovett Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Literature said: 27.4M streams despite its streaming performance? 27k sales in 3 days despite itunes numbers beng nowhere near that? The numbers aint adding up It's always going to be a struggle to make the numbers add up when you look at a single streaming platform and single sales platform and disregard absolutely everything else.
ciara Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 I’m SCREAMING! Cause the behind the scenes video will count as streams because it’s just random footage with the song playing. Her team is so smart Lmao ?
Cloröx Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: There’s nothing wrong with digital and instrumental singles for sale on her website, or the insane push on radio, but the song is doing catastrophically on streaming. This feels really forced, and for a fanbase that has made fun of other artists for pushing their own songs and now is pretending this is fine, it just is extremely hypocritical Wait, if she just releases this on her website then where those gigantic first three days sales comes from? Anyway, I don't really care if the song flopping, LMU issa solid song but some Navy deserve the lashings
Literature Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, MrLovett said: It's always going to be a struggle to make the numbers add up when you look at a single streaming platform and single sales platform and disregard absolutely everything else. the predictors had it at 17k sales for the week and 23M streams, because it was not #1 on itunes until yesterday, had no website sales available, and has been collapsing on streaming platforms....but suddenly the sales predictions multiplied by 210% out of thin air upon Billboard's mid-week stat update (which they never usually give) and they said she somehow did 15M streams the first 3 days even though that's like statistically impossible but okay Edited November 3, 2022 by Literature
Lovett Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Literature said: the predictors had it at 17k sales for the week and 23M streams, because it was not #1 on itunes until yesterday, had no website sales available, and has been collapsing on streaming platforms....but suddenly the sales predictions multiplied by 210% out of thin air upon Billboard's mid-week stat update (which they never usually give) and they said she somehow did 15M streams the first 3 days even though that's like statistically impossible but okay Predictors make predictions. They use available data and then make estimations for the remaining data that they don't have access to. This can often be significantly off (particularly with Winston) or almost exactly right. They're always making adjustments when they find out more information and sometimes make substantial changes to their predictions at the end of the week when new data is available. Also, LMU reached #1 on US iTunes on Saturday, not yesterday. So again, it's pretty clear you haven't actually been closely following the song's performance at all.
Cloröx Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Literature said: the predictors had it at 17k sales for the week and 23M streams, because it was not #1 on itunes until yesterday, had no website sales available, and has been collapsing on streaming platforms....but suddenly the sales predictions multiplied by 210% out of thin air upon Billboard's mid-week stat update (which they never usually give) and they said she somehow did 15M streams the first 3 days even though that's like statistically impossible but okay Yup, can someone explain to me where those sales come from considering the website sales wasn't available until yesterday Not gonna lie this is on par with Tidal fraudulent, so suspicious
Badgalbriel Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 The sales numbers is the weird thing here. How did she sell that much when she only reach #1 on iTunes on the second day and then immediately got replaced by Anti Hero? Also, the streaming numbers are weird too when she dropped like a rock on the second day on every platform. Anyway, I won't doubt Billboard, of course they have their sources. Slay I guess.
Marco_g2 Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 This is not going #1 and that's okay. The song grew on me immensely tho, i think of it as a FourFiveSeconds in that it's quite minimalistic in it's production and not very pop.
Cloröx Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: The sales numbers is the weird thing here. How did she sell that much when she only reach #1 on iTunes on the second day and then immediately got replaced by Anti Hero? Also, the streaming numbers are weird too when she dropped like a rock on the second day on every platform. Anyway, I won't doubt Billboard, of course they have their sources. Slay I guess. When Tidal is the source then anything could happen
Literature Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrLovett said: Predictors make predictions. They use available data and then make estimations for the remaining data that they don't have access to. This can often be significantly off (particularly with Winston) or almost exactly right. They're always making adjustments when they find out more information and sometimes make substantial changes to their predictions at the end of the week when new data is available. Also, LMU reached #1 on US iTunes on Saturday, not yesterday. So again, it's pretty clear you haven't actually been closely following the song's performance at all. Fair enough, but the sales figures still don't match up at all
Jude Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, zzmyth said: Goes to show radio listeners are liking it. ATRL lost.
Sweetestsecret Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Literature said: Fair enough, but the sales figures still don't match up at all The instrumental version was also high the first days of the release..rihanna was blocked by a BTS member the first day on iTunes and his fans went crazy buying it.. rihanna still made it to #1 and probably she had a big lead.. Edited November 3, 2022 by Sweetestsecret
shark_heather Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Protocol said: Spotify: #15 Canada (+6) #15 Sweden (-3) #17 Germany (-1) #19 Netherlands (-1) #22 Australia (-3) #22 United Kingdom #26 United States (+4) #29 France (-8) #47 Brazil (-7) #60 Poland (-1) #65 Spain (+1) #69 Italy (-7) #124 Philippines (-9) I have to say, this is somewhat shocking I think the long wait may have affected her more than people realized. To millennials, Rihanna is super iconic of course. But what about to the average 15 year old today, which is the age range who determines who gets a hit? Do they really care about Rihanna? Harder question to answer than it may seem. Her make-up does great but it's target audience is the millennial adults who grew up listening to her, not the streaming audience which is mostly teens/early 20s. Think about it. A 15 year old today was born in 2007. They have no memory of "Umbrella". Barely any memory if at all of "We Found Love". The first Rihanna era they would've been fully aware of would be 'Anti' but that was a more adult, mature album aimed at a bit of an older audience, not bright upbeat pop music that kids would listen to. I think Beyonce finds herself in a similar predicament which is why 'Renaissance' Spotify numbers aren't great. Taylor aggressively going back to bright colours and cheesy music for 'Lover' may have been a good strategy in the end, it seemed to reintroduce her to younger audiences. What an essay So shocking numbers ? Its doing great . Its a Rihanna lullaby for crying out loud
Flanders Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Just bought multiple copies of this. Queen is coming for Elvis and Mariah this decade
zzmyth Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Invader said: I’m randomly humming this throughout the day It definitely gets better and better every listen. I'm sorry to have been so shocked by the sound of it. But this is a great song. Even if it peaks at #4 I couldn't care less... Russian Roulette peaked at #9 and it's one of her best lead singles
Peep Show Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Imagine being over 30 and still obsessed with stan wars and charts. I can guarantee you that me & the majority of the Navy are just happy to get any new Rihanna music at this point.
Jude Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 So is LMU going to be the first female soundtrack to debut at #1?
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