Erreur2 La Nature Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Even though Taylor is still out streaming, people are forgetting that Billboard changed their formula for the Hot 100 chart. Radio weighs more than streams now. The song officially impacts radio tomorrow. The Navy can easily make “Lift Me Up” go #1 by doing radio requests and a couple buying parties. Out of curiosity, when was this changed exactly ? And do we know what % each of them represents now once translated in points ?
JCON Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Almost 20 years in the game and ORH still doubt her power I love how all her debuts are chaotic and divisive OT: They better release an orchestra version of the song after Halloween to secure that #1
simmnfierzig Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: Out of curiosity, when was this changed exactly ? And do we know what % each of them represents now once translated in points ? Its ~30% radio, ~65% streaming and less than 5% sales. But as always those are averages. Can be very different for individual songs.
Bloodflowers. Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jude said: Just did my 20th play. Not Santa Baby already whats your lastfm, let me follow ya ---- I still cannot get enough of Rih's beauty on that single cover
rp662 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said: Debuted on Pop, HAC, AC, Urban, Rhythmic, Urban AC w/ 27M total audience I- 2 hours ago, Lein said: Global Lift me Up #3 7,605,514 Instrumental #93 1,435,222 Total 9.0m Not bad 2 hours ago, Mr. Specialist said:
Jude Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said: Not Santa Baby already whats your lastfm, let me follow ya ---- I still cannot get enough of Rih's beauty on that single cover DMed. ---- OT: smasha
Harry Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Thats just not correct Radio is super high for some songs, yeah. But looks like ~30% or so on average. I really dont see how Lift Me Up would challenge for #1. Would need to increase on US Spotify tomorrow. Or have really strong sales thanks for the insight which i very much agree with. LMU is def not challenging for #1 at least this week. maybe it can try again when the movie is released pretty sure the song would've died down by then tho
Digitalism Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Starkboy said: Navy has never been a chart obsessed fanbase buying 20 copies of the same thing over and over, why would we be 17 years into her career? people seem to forget that Rih just releases good music and the GP buys it It's not fueled by any type of mass buying
shark_heather Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Digitalism said: people seem to forget that Rih just releases good music and the GP buys it It's not fueled by any type of mass buying +1
WeFoundWill Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: #1 (+1) on UK iTunes Jin you are OVER.
Digitalism Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, shark_heather said: +1 People who have been Navy from day one know her hits don't work like the other pop girls There's no first huge first week numbers from the fan base or even promo from Rih. Everything is organic People talking about first week numbers earlier this week made no sense to me as a navy member. First week won't matter this will get even bigger with the movie
shark_heather Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Digitalism said: People who have been Navy from day one know her hits don't work like the other pop girls There's no first huge first week numbers from the fan base or even promo from Rih. Everything is organic People talking about first week numbers earlier this week made no sense to me as a navy member. First week won't matter this will get even bigger with the movie Amen But its understandable here on atrl there is this craziness about the first week and debuts and to break records etc Lets just not forget that only girl went no1 after whats my name .... i mean
RockStarShit101 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, I. AX said: France is without a doubt her biggest market . They support everything she drops it is they have always loved rih's music since day one
shark_heather Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, RockStarShit101 said: it is they have always loved rih's music since day one I wonder how many Stade De France she can sell out
RockStarShit101 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, shark_heather said: I wonder how many Stade De France she can sell out Two? French Navy, help us out.
RockStarShit101 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: #1 (+1) on UK iTunes And how many copies do you need to reach the top spot on iTunes in 2022? I always get the feeling that iTunes is in the past, but I always see it being discussed on atrl.
Mr. Specialist Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said: Thats just not correct Radio is super high for some songs, yeah. But looks like ~30% or so on average. I really dont see how Lift Me Up would challenge for #1. Would need to increase on US Spotify tomorrow. Or have really strong sales 1 hour ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: Out of curiosity, when was this changed exactly ? And do we know what % each of them represents now once translated in points ? Sales are worth 33% less and the calculation formula for streams has not changed. Therefore, every chart expert believes that radio airplay has had a more significant impact than streams and they believe the weight % for radio in Billboard’s chart formula has increased. Prime example: Radio is what led to “Cuff It” jumping 10 spots on the Hot 100, not a measly 12% streaming (1.2 million) increase. Radio airplay is clearly more important and is the reason why so many songs stay on the Hot 100 chart, especially within the Top 10. Edited October 29, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
Harry Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Sales are worth 33% less and the calculation formula for streams has not changed. Therefore, every chart expert believes that radio airplay has had a more significant impact than streams. Prime example: Radio is what led to “Cuff It” jumping 10 spots on the Hot 100, not a measly 12% streaming (1.2 million) increase. interesting. so i guess a check will do the work just fine
simmnfierzig Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Sales are worth 33% less and the calculation formula for streams has not changed. Therefore, every chart expert believes that radio airplay has had a more significant impact than streams. Prime example: Radio is what led to “Cuff It” jumping 10 spots on the Hot 100, not a measly 12% streaming (1.2 million) increase. You are wrong... I posted that prediction from last week with the percentages for sales, radio and streaming for every song. And yeah obviously a 200% increase in radio had a bigger impact on Cuff It than a 12% increase in streaming How is that a good example Overall and on average streaming is still twice as important as radio Changing sales obviously impacts both streaming and radio weight equally.... Not that is matters much as sales are completely dead And the change to Mediabase hasnt happened yet. We will see when it does how it impacts the numbers
rihsus Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, RockStarShit101 said: Two? French Navy, help us out. if it is the only city in France, for sure.
shark_heather Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, rihsus said: if it is the only city in France, for sure. I dont see her doing many cities She barely wants to tour ?
simmnfierzig Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Sales are worth 33% less and the calculation formula for streams has not changed. Therefore, every chart expert believes that radio airplay has had a more significant impact than streams and they believe the weight % for radio in Billboard’s chart formula has increased. Prime example: Radio is what led to “Cuff It” jumping 10 spots on the Hot 100, not a measly 12% streaming (1.2 million) increase. Radio airplay is clearly more important and is the reason why so many songs stay on the Hot 100 chart, especially within the Top 10. Oh and if you look at the numbers I posted: Cuff It was estimated at 6% from sales, 23% from radio and 71% from streaming last week. Its just streams stayed pretty stable the last weeks and radio started playing it. So that went from 0% of its points to those 23% Edited October 29, 2022 by simmnfierzig
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