KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) They are the only female artists I can think of who remained successful throughout four decades Madonna debuted in 1983 and her last worldwide smash hit was 4 Minutes from 2008. 25 years into her career. She kinda fluked in the 2010s but was still able to have #1 albums in this decade. Shakira formally debuted in 1995 and her new single Monotonia released today is breaking streaming records and shaping up to become a massive global hit. Her 2022 single Te Felicito is also a massive hit, charting in the top 10 in many countries. Beyoncé was obviously the lead part of Destiny's Child, which debuted 1998. In 2022 Beyoncé released her most acclaimed work to date, managed to break personal streaming records, reached #1 with her hit single; Break My Soul and the song; Cuff It is becoming a massive hit worldwide, charting inside of the top 15 in many countries. Is it safe to say this is the trinity of girls with extremely long careers? There is really no slowing down with these women. I cant think of anybody else who managed to sustain such a long career and see continuous success and scoring massive hits throughout four decades, all with new material. Edited October 20, 2022 by KatyPrismSpirit
stevyy Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) new or old material... Mariah Carey first hit #1 in 1990 and last in 2022. Queen of ranking at #1, I guess. Moo also had a double platinum single in 2013 - 23 years into her career... and quite recently in 2022, a platinum certified new single in Australia. yay. Edited October 20, 2022 by stevyy
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, stevyy said: new or old material... Mariah Carey first hit #1 in 1990 and last in 2022. Queen of ranking at #1, I guess. Moo also had a double platinum single in 2013 - 23 years into her career... and quite recently in 2022, a platinum certified new single. yay. Mariah isn't comparable to them pls. Mariahs 10s output isn't nearly as succesful as the high highs shakira, madonna and beyonce were able to achieve 24/25 years into their careers. and yes AIWFCIY keeps going #1 for two weeks a year but mariahs new material isnt succesful by a landslide
suburbannature Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 This entire attempt for the sole purpose of to shading Mariah with that last sentence. Mariah is the only act with #1s in four decades, continues to be one of the most-streamed pre-00s artists, and the “new music” caveat you added doesn’t make sense because no one else is doing what she’s doing:
PrettyHurts Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 they're just legendary I don't know much about Shakira's career moves, but Madonna and Beyoncé were both very good at adapting while also remaining true to themselves. They made sure they were irreplaceable (.mp3) pop stars that the world needed
suburbannature Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, stevyy said: new or old material... Mariah Carey first hit #1 in 1990 and last in 2022. Queen of ranking at #1, I guess. Moo also had a double platinum single in 2013 - 23 years into her career... and quite recently in 2022, a platinum certified new single in Australia. yay. Plus 20 years of platinum (or more) albums and hit songs before the Xmas reign even went into full gear. Albums 1990: Mariah Carey 9x platinum 1991: Emotions 4x platinum 1992: MTV Unplugged EP 4x platinum 1993: Music Box diamond 1994: Merry Christmas 8x platinum 1995: Daydream diamond (11x platinum) 1997: Butterfly 5x platinum 1998: #1s 5x platinum 1999: Rainbow 3x platinum 2001: Glitter platinum 2001: Greatest Hits 2x platinum 2002: Charmbracelet platinum 2005: The Emancipation of Mimi 7x platinum 2008: E=MC2 platinum 2009: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel platinum 2010: Merry Christmas II You gold Songs 1990: Three #1s 1991: Two #1s (and #2, #5) 1992: One #1 1993: One #1 1994: One #1 (and #2, #3) 1995: Two #1s 1996: One #1 1997: One #1 1998: One #1 1999: One #1 2000: One #1 2001: #2 2003: #3 2005: One #1 (and #2) 2006: One #1 2008: One #1 2009: #7 (Obsessed) 2013: #15 (and multi-platinum) AIWFCIY: 2019: #1 2020: #1 2021: #1 2022: #1 She's currently out-streaming the other 80s-90s (Madonna, Whitney, Celine, Janet, etc.) divas in recurrent as well. And has been since September...and that's pre-Christmas months and not including her enormous recurrent stats on Asian streaming platforms like Melon.
CaptainMusic Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 Tina Turner and Cher had hits in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Karla Cabello said: te felicado 9 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: omg bye this flop thread needs to be shut down already
stevyy Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Mariah isn't comparable to them pls. Mariahs 10s output isn't nearly as succesful as the high highs shakira, madonna and beyonce were able to achieve 24/25 years into their careers. and yes AIWFCIY keeps going #1 for two weeks a year but mariahs new material isnt succesful by a landslide 3* weeks at #1 every year, 9 weeks in the top 20. Don't do me dirty like that. H100 2010 - #100 - Gold - Up Out My Face 2011 - #100 - Oh Santa 2011 - #86 - Gold - All I want for Christmas Is You (SuperFestive!) 2013 - #15 - 2xP - #Beautiful 2014 - #88 - You're Mine 2015 - #82 - Infinity 2017 - #89 - I Don't 2020 - #76 - Oh Santa Remix BB200: 2010 - #4 - 587,000 sales - Merry Christmas II You 2014 - #3 - 125,000 sales - Me. I am Mariah 2015 - #29 - 120,000 sales - #1 To Infinity 2018 - #5 - 120,000 sales - Caution 2020 - #100 - 20,000 sales - Mariah's Magical Christmas Special Soundtrack #Beautiful: (2013) #5 - South Africa #5 - Slovakia #6 - Platinum - Australia #9 - Gold - Denmark #10 - Gold - New Zealand #15 - 2x Platinum - USA #22 - Silver - UK #22 - Spain #27 - Canada Big Energy Remix: (2022) #6 - 2x Platinum - Australia #20 - Platinum - New Zealand #20 - Ireland #21 - Silver - UK Moo, did well enough. Other do not have Gold and Platinum singles in individual countries. Much less that infamous Xmas classic which has hit #1 in 99% of all markets that have a single chart in the 2010s. Moo has also begun to chart 6 songs off her infamous Xmas album around the world. The Netherlands gave her 4 simultaneous charts entries last season. Even the UK gave her 3.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, stevyy said: Moo, did well enough. not really. 25 years into her career was in 2015 aka around the time she dropped me... i am the elusive chanteuse. She didn't have any hit album or hit song out at that time like BREAK MY SOUL / Renaissance or 4 Minutes / Hard Candy or Te FeliCITO... like we all know this? the christmas song is obviously a routine thing / fluke. Her new material ain't hit like that of bey, madonna or shakira did 25 years into their careers. Madonnas last moderately succesful hit was Obsessed and her last actual hit song was Touch My Body in 2008, which was 18/19 years into her career. Not 24/25
Devin Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: Tina Turner and Cher had hits in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. This too.
suburbannature Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: not really. 25 years into her career was in 2015 aka around the time she dropped me... i am the elusive chanteuse. She didn't have any hit album or hit song out at that time like BREAK MY SOUL / Renaissance or 4 Minutes / Hard Candy or Te FeliCITO... like we all know this? the christmas song is obviously a routine thing / fluke. Her new material ain't hit like that of bey, madonna or shakira did 25 years into their careers. Madonnas last moderately succesful hit was Obsessed and her last actual hit song was Touch My Body in 2008, which was 18/19 years into her career. Not 24/25 so name some other artists doing it. One other Xmas #1 in the last 60 years or one other artist with older music going #1. Quick.
ToMmY Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: It's the portuguese version.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, suburbannature said: so name some other artists doing it. One other Xmas #1 in the last 60 years or one other artist with older music going #1. Quick. not necessarily #1 but #2... and doing highly similar numbers? Would you say Brenda Lee had a "long career" like Shakira and Beyonce just because Rockin' Around the Christmas tree has massive streams one week per year solely bc its a holiday? Holiday songs are just a routine fluke. Brenda Lee isn't considered to this regard because she doesnt do it with new material and neither does mariah. With longevity we mean a long career that is sustained because the output remains succesful / keeps hitting. Not because their back catalog gets streams. I mean new music.
k4rmabutterfly Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 It must be talent, bcs all three of them are extremely talented
Guest Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Devin said: So we not gonna include Mariah? nnn
suburbannature Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: not necessarily #1 but #2... and doing highly similar numbers? Would you say Brenda Lee had a "long career" like Shakira and Beyonce just because Rockin' Around the Christmas tree has massive streams one week per year solely bc its a holiday? Holiday songs are just a routine fluke. Brenda Lee isn't considered to this regard because she doesnt do it with new material and neither does mariah. With longevity we mean a long career that is sustained because the output remains succesful / keeps hitting. Not because their back catalog gets streams. I mean new music. The answer you were avoiding giving was no one. Mariah isn't just dominating with AIWFCIY - her album moves a massive amount of units each year. She charted another album in the top 20 on B200 this year (#1s from 1998). Having a classic album/song that dominate nearly two months each year is not a "fluke," it's the type of legacy and success that all artists (including the one in your name with her Xmas music) strive for their music to have.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, suburbannature said: The answer you were avoiding giving was no one. Mariah isn't just dominating with AIWFCIY - her album moves a massive amount of units each year. She charted another album in the top 20 on B200 this year (#1s from 1998). Having a classic album/song that dominate nearly two months each year is not a "fluke," it's the type of legacy and success that all artists (including the one in your name with her Xmas music) strive for their music to have. Yes its impressive but catalog resurgance does not equal long sustained career. those records are like you said from 1998. My intend with this thread is to highlight those artists who were able to see massive successes with new material 25 years into their career and mariah isnt part of that as of now. Its not intended as shade but i dont think mariah had a smash hit like 4 minutes, te felicito or break my soul post 2015 that is new material
Totami Legend Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 They have a good lawyer who stands up for them. Not everybody has that to their credit these days.
NausAllien Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 I'd say it's the combination of talent + being smart businesswomen. That's what all three have in common.
suburbannature Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Yes its impressive but catalog resurgance does not equal long sustained career. those records are like you said from 1998. My intend with this thread is to highlight those artists who were able to see massive successes with new material 25 years into their career and mariah isnt part of that as of now. Its not intended as shade but i dont think mariah had a smash hit like 4 minutes, te felicito or break my soul post 2015 that is new material 20 years of platinum+ albums and hit records PLUS annual dominance with Xmas music is longevity and sustainability no matter how you try to spin it.
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