Tusk Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, By the Water said: Seems like it's raining pretty hard in Rio. If they postpone tomorrow's show as well they better do it quicker than today Some of her stage collapsed earlier
Michael196 Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I’m not here to defend her, but there are several dumb things that are getting thrown for the sake of a stan dig: - The postponement is awful but it’s the right choice and everyone agrees here, the same applies to the fact that this decision should’ve been agreed on and announced way earlier, but it doesn’t end there, because if the ******* stadium was trying to prevent her team from handing water which they provided themselves, do you think rescheduling would be easier? - Regarding the whole “she can break a contract and pay whatever it takes”, no one wants the show to happen more than her and her fans, not even the greedy bastards involved and that’s not up for debate, therefore, if she breaks it and pays, there’s definitely a section that will prevent her from playing the venue again, which is not what anyone wants because the goal is to reschedule and that will not be possible if she breaks it. - The whole cancelling and never coming back may sound extreme and could easily be turned into a racism topic because you know, sWiFtIeS… but the fact is, the conditions and treatment are disgusting to say the least, between the water debacle and the vent thing, it shouldn’t have taken for a human to lose their life for anyone to finally wake up, even after what happened, the stadium still didn’t do anything to prevent yesterday’s unfortunate events from happening again and all the changes were singlehandlly done by Taylor’s team, which basically means that nothing will change and everything will be back to regular after she leaves as if nothing happened. Another thing regarding this point, does anyone thinks that the attacks and robberies tradition outside the stadium is normal??? and not to make it about me, but if I was in a similar situation with these factors involved, as someone that have been here for over a decade that would love nothing more than to experience one of her shows because I never had the opportunity before, I still wouldn’t be ready in any way to put myself in this situation and endanger myself after seeing what happened. - While she’s not the biggest victim of this situation and it feels out of touch to “feel bad for her”, when actual people are suffering in many ways, let’s not even bring the girl’s parents and loved ones… but Taylor is still human and I can’t imagine carrying the weigh of being responsible of this kind of tragedy, since it’s her concert and someone that loved her lost their life, there was no way she would stand on that stage today and go through the entire show, when she definitely couldn’t sleep and in an awful mental and emotional state, add to that, the extremely exhausting show she went through a couple of hours before the news broke. Some “people” need to wake and grow the **** up, even here, it’s not appropriate to turn every single thing into a joke, there are literal lives on stake for ****’s sake… 4
Drowned8World Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 she's never coming back to South America after this, isn't she?
Raphy23 Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 7 hours ago, TaylorNation said: well all those US shows with assigned seating (and insane prices) are crazy. they should all be GA all these takes from americans who have no idea how concert culture is outside their country and want to impose their way of doing things is so crazy I see your point. But at a certain point traditions DO change for the improvement of safety and health of attendees. Not saying it needs to become like in USA, but change can be for the better sometimes. 1 1
Raphy23 Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Drowned8World said: she's never coming back to South America after this, isn't she? I hope she does again.
Cleanromantic Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) Her body was super red during the show . I know ATRL is vile and says the worst things about her on a normal day, so I get the foaming at the mouth now that there's possible backlash, but do people think she'll allow herself (since they already made up their minds that she's a greedy satan worshiping monster who only cares about herself) to perform in those conditions again? Some of you truly don't know when to stop. Edited November 19, 2023 by Cleanromantic 9 1
AvadaKedavra Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: Her body was super red during the show . I know ATRL is vile and says the worst things about her on a normal day, so I get the foaming at the mouth now that there's possible backlash, but do people think she'll allow herself (since they already made up their minds that she's a greedy satan worshiping monster) to perform in those conditions again? Some of you truly don't know when to stop. I was reading in reddit how this could led to long term damage to her body. Heatstroke-Sunburn-Heat is real dangerous.
FolkLover1989 Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I have heard that she plans to go back to Argentina again for Eras but Ig she is probably not going back to Brazil again soon until the management gets better. This was horrific event for everyone involved
Klein Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I think it was 100% the right decision to postpone the show, I've spent the day wondering why they wouldn't and so I thought they made plans to ensure the safety of the fans. Even if they did, it looks like it wasn't enough. I think it was the safest thing to do. I understand the fans' perspective too. Whatever the reason is for why it wasn't announced earlier, it must be incredibly frustrating to have the show rescheduled like an hour or two before it should start, after spending the entire day queuing in the burning heat. Especially for those who already bought tickets for the Lover fest, cause that's the second time they are missing her (though this time it is rescheduled). I really don't like the general sentiment of "she's never going back there". These heat waves are not common, people passing at the concert is not common, and she could easily come back and avoid working with the same people who haven't been able to do things right. Anyway, I hope she takes care of her body and mind because she didn't look well in these videos from friday's show, and the fan passing must have taken a toll on her. 4
Cleanromantic Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: I was reading in reddit how this could led to long term damage to her body. Heatstroke-Sunburn-Heat is real dangerous. The video of her struggling to breath during the Midnights set was so unsettling. I've watched countless videos of the Midnights act and she never looks tired during it, but this time she looked like she was about to faint and she was panicking and trying to stay calm 1
fridayteenage Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Klein said: I really don't like the general sentiment of "she's never going back there". These heat waves are not common, people passing at the concert is not common, and she could easily come back and avoid working with the same people who haven't been able to do things right. Anyway, I hope she takes care of her body and mind because she didn't look well in these videos from friday's show, and the fan passing must have taken a toll on her. i think it's less that she thinks people will pass out again, and more the awful memory of what happened there will make her not want to come back because of the negative association she has with the city now.
Cleanromantic Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: I was reading in reddit how this could led to long term damage to her body. Heatstroke-Sunburn-Heat is real dangerous. I know from personal experience that heatstroke leads to you being permanently sensitive to sun/heat. Spoiler Also, both Taylor's parents have had skin cancer before, so I'm very scared for her tbh. I just want her to get home safely.
Raphy23 Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: I was reading in reddit how this could led to long term damage to her body. Heatstroke-Sunburn-Heat is real dangerous. She’ll be fine.
Kyle-x Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 Why did The Eras Tour suddenly turn into The Last of Us the second it touched down in Brazil
JorgeM Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Cleanromantic said: I know from personal experience that heatstroke leads to you being permanently sensitive to sun/heat. Hide contents Also, both Taylor's parents have had skin cancer before, so I'm very scared for her tbh. I just want her to get home safely. That red is not from a sunburn
TaylorNation Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Raphy23 said: I see your point. But at a certain point traditions DO change for the improvement of safety and health of attendees. Not saying it needs to become like in USA, but change can be for the better sometimes. okay but why is “improvement” needed in the first place and applied to the rest of the world just because americans (whose concerts are not affected anyways) are complaining? have there been studies to confirm that it’s safer and healthier? what happened in Rio was a tragedy, but using this show as an example of general admission being bad is not okay, and I hope this is clear to everybody. I’ve been going to concerts, most of them GA, for over 20 years without any problems. of course, some GA experiences I’ve had are not for the faint of heart and some have been terrible, but I doubt anybody would change this for seats 1 1
Klein Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, TaylorNation said: okay but why is “improvement” needed in the first place and applied to the rest of the world just because americans (whose concerts are not affected anyways) are complaining? have there been studies to confirm that it’s safer and healthier? what happened in Rio was a tragedy, but using this show as an example of general admission being bad is not okay, and I hope this is clear to everybody. I’ve been going to concerts, most of them GA, for over 20 years without any problems. of course, some GA experiences I’ve had are not for the faint of heart and some have been terrible, but I doubt anybody would change this for seats I've been almost exclusively to standing concerts, and I would never ever choose to have seats on the floor sections. While I understand all the qualities seats have (no need to queue the whole day, you can rest when you want to...), there's an argument about the experience of a little chaos (nothing like what happened here of course) making a concert stand out. Dancing in the middle of tons of people that share the same interest as you is a fantastic experience. Sure, after the concert you are exhausted, but that's part of the experience I gotta say. What I don't understand is not being allowed to bring water in the venue. In France at least, it's allowed. You just have to remove the caps to make sure you can't throw the bottle on the stage. But at least you can have water with you. 1 1
KingWitch Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I saw a video with hundreds of swifties at MacDonalds or whatever and police everywhere saying they were getting robbed after the postponement I would not blame her at all if she never visited Brazil ,the country needs to get their act together,you have the world's biggest artist in your country and these are the headlines the world will see .
Yellowfever Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 is it true that the girl died during cruel summer and not before taylor’s show? it’s all over brazilian twitter 1
Julia Fox Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, KingWitch said: I saw a video with hundreds of swifties at MacDonalds or whatever and police everywhere saying they were getting robbed after the postponement I would not blame her at all if she never visited Brazil ,the country needs to get their act together,you have the world's biggest artist in your country and these are the headlines the world will see . I came to Brazil to see Lana, Florence and Sabrina on June and the country is a literal mess, police is corrupt, a lot of people homeless and a lot of danger zones and also a lot of people telling us to have caution because you could literally be killed in a taxi or passing down the street, like we were tourist and we wanted to have a good time and they just make us scared. Also Brazilian fans aren’t supportive enough because it’s not the first time someone died on a show. Back in time a lot of people died on a RBD show. its sad because the country is beautiful and offers a lot to the people that visit but they need to improve a lot and with this Taylor situation it shows Edited November 19, 2023 by Julia Fox
YellowRibbon Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I imagine Brazilian fans must be feeling terrible right now... They waited so long for these concerts and now it's all a f*cking mess.
TipToe Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: is it true that the girl died during cruel summer and not before taylor’s show? it’s all over brazilian twitter Her friend gave interviews and said she fainted during the second song
KingWitch Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Julia Fox said: I came to Brazil to see Lana, Florence and Sabrina on June and the country is a literal mess, police is corrupt, a lot of people homeless and a lot of danger zones and also a lot of people telling us to have caution because you could literally be killed in a taxi or passing down the street, like we were tourist and we wanted to have a good time and they just make us scared. Also Brazilian fans aren’t supportive enough because it’s not the first time someone died on a show. Back in time a lot of people died on a RBD show. its sad because the country is beautiful and offers a lot to the people that visit but they need to improve a lot and with this Taylor situation it shows Wow. I remember seeing how they're cost of living was so low and thinking how I'd retire there one day but now I'm not so sure ,let's hope things improve through the years. Such a beautiful country.
KingWitch Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: is it true that the girl died during cruel summer and not before taylor’s show? it’s all over brazilian twitter 4 minutes ago, TipToe said: Her friend gave interviews and said she fainted during the second song Its probably true. As soon I saw Taylor say before the show on that statement ,I knew she was PR'ing the whole thing because it would've looked so bad if she said the fan died during the show but the show still continued . Edited November 19, 2023 by KingWitch
Mandalore Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 I'll repost what I said in another thread. There's people camping AGAIN today outside the venue. It's not even 10 am again. And when thunderstorm strikes in the evening and they have to cancel the show they'll be the first talking to tv news about how horrible it was to be outside all day. Their own personal choices. 1 1
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